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WarChild 05-16-2012 01:47 AM

Physician's report: Zimmerman was beaten.
 
It's come out in discovery that a Physician's report fromt he day after the shooting shows Zimmerman to have a broken nose, two black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head and minor back injuries.

Oracle Porn 05-16-2012 02:00 AM

I don't even know who zimmerman is but I do know you are about a few days late with the news, can't say it's your first time either.

2012 05-16-2012 02:01 AM

so what ?

DamianJ 05-16-2012 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 18949009)
I don't even know who zimmerman is

Bob Dylan?

2012 05-16-2012 02:22 AM



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ruff 05-16-2012 07:24 AM

If I was Zimmerman, I would have understood immediately that I fucked up when I shot that kid. I would have set about bashing myself with whatever was handy so I could get my alibi in place. When you have a gun and a predisposition to use it, you are not letting someone beat you up before you shoot them.

Phoenix 05-16-2012 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 18949429)
If I was Zimmerman, I would have understood immediately that I fucked up when I shot that kid. I would have set about bashing myself with whatever was handy so I could get my alibi in place. When you have a gun and a predisposition to use it, you are not letting someone beat you up before you shoot them.

I agree.
If he wasn't creeping around and following people like a snoop he wouldn't have been in the position to shoot anyone. Zimmerman is a waste of space in society.

BIGTYMER 05-16-2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18949440)
I agree.
If he wasn't creeping around and following people like a snoop he wouldn't have been in the position to shoot anyone. Zimmerman is a waste of space in society.

Homes got broken in to. Nice neighborhood. Black kid wearing a hoodie. Not trying to be or sound racist but I'd of kept an eye on the kid myself.

Phoenix 05-16-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18949447)
Homes got broken in to. Nice neighborhood. Black kid wearing a hoodie. Not trying to be or sound racist but I'd of kept an eye on the kid myself.

Follow him around a few blocks, get out of your car to try and sneak up on him? all with a loaded gun on you?

I hope you wouldn't do such a thing.

brassmonkey 05-16-2012 07:46 AM

the day he fired that shot his life was over. :2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 05-16-2012 07:49 AM


sperbonzo 05-16-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 18949429)
If I was Zimmerman, I would have understood immediately that I fucked up when I shot that kid. I would have set about bashing myself with whatever was handy so I could get my alibi in place. When you have a gun and a predisposition to use it, you are not letting someone beat you up before you shoot them.


I guess he must have hit himself with Treyvon Martin"s fists..

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...-when-he-died/

" WFTV has confirmed that autopsy results show 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles when he died.

The information could support George Zimmerman’s claim that Martin beat him up before Zimmerman shot and killed him.

The autopsy results come as Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara continues to go over other evidence in the case.

O’Mara wouldn’t comment on the autopsy evidence, but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said it’s better for the defense than it is for the prosecution.

WFTV has learned that the medical examiner found two injuries on Martin’s body: The fatal gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles.

Al Sharpton was unavailable for comment."


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That last bit is weird, Al Sharpton had plenty to say when there was no evidence available and we all had nothing to go on.... strange....



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directfiesta 05-16-2012 07:51 AM

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SuckOnThis 05-16-2012 08:17 AM

The report was from his own family doctor that he visited the next day, doesnt mean shit.

beerptrol 05-16-2012 08:23 AM

Doesn't mean shit! If he initiated the confrontation, then got his ass handed to him and then shot the kid, he couldn't use stand your ground as a defense

ruff 05-16-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18949467)
I guess he must have hit himself with Treyvon Martin"s fists..

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...-when-he-died/

" WFTV has confirmed that autopsy results show 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles when he died.

The information could support George Zimmerman?s claim that Martin beat him up before Zimmerman shot and killed him.

The autopsy results come as Zimmerman?s attorney, Mark O?Mara continues to go over other evidence in the case.

O?Mara wouldn?t comment on the autopsy evidence, but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said it?s better for the defense than it is for the prosecution.

WFTV has learned that the medical examiner found two injuries on Martin?s body: The fatal gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles.

Al Sharpton was unavailable for comment."


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That last bit is weird, Al Sharpton had plenty to say when there was no evidence available and we all had nothing to go on.... strange....



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Well, I guess there some DNA in there somewhere. Wouldn't you say? I'm still going to believe that if you are walking around following someone, you have access to that gun you are carrying. It is instantly accessible. It's not locked up, it's not buttoned into the holster, and it's not zipped into a waist pack. Zimmerman was carrying a gun because he planned on using it. Yes there is crime in Miami and every other city, but we are not walking around armed down here. How bad do you think it was in Zimmerman's neighborhood outside of Orlando? Most neighborhood crime is kids anyway. Should we start shooting now? I guarantee you when Zimmerman took his class for that concealed weapons permit, he was told, in depth, about the new 'stand your ground" law and advised to carry that weapon everywhere he went for the rest of his life.

ruff 05-16-2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18949460)
the day he fired that shot his life was over. :2 cents:

Chances are he was going to shoot someone sooner or later.

CyberHustler 05-16-2012 10:19 AM

Even the kids parents said they KNOW Trayvon would have defended himself... this is not exactly ground breaking evidence here. Being stalked by a creep in a neighborhood where robberies are happening is scary... even more-so if the creep is armed with a gun and all you have is skittles and a can of tea. Fight or flight.

SmokeyTheBear 05-16-2012 10:41 AM

seems like people forget when they were teenagers. I will speculate what happened based on past teenage experience.

There was always a zimmerman on the block. He would always come stalking around , sometimes when we were doing bad shit , sometimes when we weren't, but we were cocky teens , so when he confronted you , you were often rude , and maybe even got in a scuffle a few times.

I would guess this zimmerman guy was one of these dicks. He probably stopped the kid and questioned him. The kid was probably cocky , rude and uncooperative. At some point zimmerman likely put his hands on the kid, the kid reacted as he had the right to, a fight broke out, zimmerman realized he was outmatched. maybe the gun popped out , maybe it didn't , maybe he was scared the kid would get ahold of the gun.

Shitty situation. I would give zimmerman a few years based on his approach to the situation , but thats not how the law works.

Just Alex 05-16-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18949797)
seems like people forget when they were teenagers. I will speculate what happened based on past teenage experience.

There was always a zimmerman on the block. He would always come stalking around , sometimes when we were doing bad shit , sometimes when we weren't, but we were cocky teens , so when he confronted you , you were often rude , and maybe even got in a scuffle a few times.

I would guess this zimmerman guy was one of these dicks. He probably stopped the kid and questioned him. The kid was probably cocky , rude and uncooperative. At some point zimmerman likely put his hands on the kid, the kid reacted as he had the right to, a fight broke out, zimmerman realized he was outmatched. maybe the gun popped out , maybe it didn't , maybe he was scared the kid would get ahold of the gun.

Shitty situation. I would give zimmerman a few years based on his approach to the situation , but thats not how the law works.


Never had one single weirdo stalking me. But than agaian, I wasn't in a neighborhood which was burglarized by blacks every other week.

jimmycooper 05-16-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18949751)
Even the kids parents said they KNOW Trayvon would have defended himself... this is not exactly ground breaking evidence here. Being stalked by a creep in a neighborhood where robberies are happening is scary... even more-so if the creep is armed with a gun and all you have is skittles and a can of tea. Fight or flight.

Agreed. This isn't Trading Places. This is real fucking life. You've got to protect your neck!

Just Alex 05-16-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18949871)
Agreed. This isn't Trading Places. This is real fucking life. You've got to protect your neck!

Yes. Free Eliyahu and Avi Werdesheim !!!


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...ostpone-trial/

theking 05-16-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 18949525)
Doesn't mean shit! If he initiated the confrontation, then got his ass handed to him and then shot the kid, he couldn't use stand your ground as a defense

I have seen lawyers argue that under Florida law one can initiate a confrontation and if one becomes fearful of being killed or seriously injured one can shoot and it can be ruled as self defense.

Phoenix 05-16-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18950039)
I have seen lawyers argue that under Florida law one can initiate a confrontation and if one becomes fearful of being killed or seriously injured one can shoot and it can be ruled as self defense.

you see something wrong with that or no?

theking 05-16-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18950061)
you see something wrong with that or no?

When I analyze the logic of it...not really. Most civilians that engage physically do not engage with the intent to kill or seriously injure their opponent...but once it becomes clear that one of the parties is attempting to kill or seriously injure...the picture is somewhat different.

Even if Zimmerman was the one that had physically attacked Trayvon first...once it became apparent that he was no match for Trayvon and Trayvon was banging his head against the ground/asphalt/concrete...which said action could cause serious injury or death...I can understand using a weapon and self defense coming into play under the law.

Major (Tom) 05-16-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18949447)
Homes got broken in to. Nice neighborhood. Black kid wearing a hoodie. Not trying to be or sound racist but I'd of kept an eye on the kid myself.

& in truth that is the short of it. When you live in a nice neighborhood you know who belongs & who doesn 't
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Failed 05-16-2012 02:30 PM

I have no idea who is the guilty party. I do know, by the end of all of this there will either be a man behind bars or dead in the streets. The pressure cooker won't last long if Zimmerman walks away from this without jail time.

PornoMonster 05-16-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18949751)
Even the kids parents said they KNOW Trayvon would have defended himself... this is not exactly ground breaking evidence here. Being stalked by a creep in a neighborhood where robberies are happening is scary... even more-so if the creep is armed with a gun and all you have is skittles and a can of tea. Fight or flight.

You guys,

on the 911 tape he said that Trayvon was running and or ran away, your going to tell me the black kid can't out run the short fat mexican?

Diomed 05-16-2012 03:53 PM

I don't know enough to have a valid (well informed) opinion on the matter.

baddog 05-16-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18949456)
Follow him around a few blocks, get out of your car to try and sneak up on him? all with a loaded gun on you?

I hope you wouldn't do such a thing.

Where did you find that description of events?

BVF 05-16-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18950039)
I have seen lawyers argue that under Florida law one can initiate a confrontation and if one becomes fearful of being killed or seriously injured one can shoot and it can be ruled as self defense.

Yet another idiot. WHAT lawyer did you hear say this? Let me make it easier for your simple mind. WhERE did you hear there lawyers say this? In all instances every attorney around says you can't initiate a fight and then shoot when you're losing.

BVF 05-16-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18950309)
Where did you find that description of events?

Im at a loss also. Yet he DID get put of the car and follow him. And he DID have a loaded gun.

candyflip 05-16-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18950309)
Where did you find that description of events?

Fox News I would imagine. They were right in the middle of turning this into a shit storm.

Or maybe NBC, who had to fire people because of the way they edited and portrayed things.

Most people have known that is not how it went down for a few weeks now.

Just Alex 05-16-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 18950321)
Im at a loss also. Yet he DID get put of the car and follow him. And he DID have a loaded gun.

He was a neighborhood watch captain :2 cents:

rogueteens 05-16-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18949751)
Even the kids parents said they KNOW Trayvon would have defended himself... this is not exactly ground breaking evidence here. Being stalked by a creep in a neighborhood where robberies are happening is scary... even more-so if the creep is armed with a gun and all you have is skittles and a can of tea. Fight or flight.

Tea in a can? Eww. You americans are strange.

theking 05-16-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 18950318)
Yet another idiot. WHAT lawyer did you hear say this? Let me make it easier for your simple mind. WhERE did you hear there lawyers say this? In all instances every attorney around says you can't initiate a fight and then shoot when you're losing.

I have seen and heard multiple lawyers argue this on three different networks and that this does not apply only to Florida...and they did not...and I did not say anything about shooting when you are losing. BTW you are now dismissed...sport.

SilentKnight 05-16-2012 05:45 PM

Curious to know how many burglaries in that neighbourhood have taken place AFTER the shooting.

Phoenix 05-16-2012 05:54 PM

It doesn't really matter, he is going to jail. Who wants that idiot out walking around where he can access another gun.

ruff 05-16-2012 06:06 PM

You don't think that as a "Neighbor Hood Watch Captain" he didn't have that pistol ready? You carry a pistol at night and you're following someone, you've got that pistol ready to fire. Does anyone honestly think a kid like Trayvon Martin was going to beat Zimmerman to death with his bare hands? Does that happen often in anyone's neighborhood? Plain and simple, the whole affair does not pass the smell test.

ruff 05-16-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 18950420)
Curious to know how many burglaries in that neighbourhood have taken place AFTER the shooting.

Well none of course. If you shoot the burglars and criminals once, they won't ever come back and your neighborhood is safe. Housing prices go up and they disband the police department.


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