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at what point did you realize everyone shaves, that no matter what a sale is 20 bucks
when did this dawn on you?
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6 seconds before i reasd this thread
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i hight doubt shaving is as widespread as some people would think, you would have to keep a lot of programmers happy so they don't spill the beans
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brand0n, I'd love to earn your business and change your perception enough for you to not have to use the word "everyone" in your post title.
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I shave every morning. I don't see what my shower habits have to do with sales, though...
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long time ago
well a sale is not always $20, but with shitty paysites it barely reach that and the shave-o-metter goes crazy. |
Everyone shaves.. :uhoh
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I honestly don't think all of them do, but I do think there are several that do. I KNOW of some that did/do...... lmao
But seriously, I think there are probably more than we think that do shave, but I don't think anyone respectable would pull something like this and risk getting blasted, and we ALL know, if you do, you will get caught sooner or later. Believe it or not, there ARE some out there in this industry that do run an honest business and can't even get their heads around cheating anyone. ;) |
When I started/stopped promoting Epic....those fuckers shave at like 40%
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I make $30 per sign up with Naughty America (revshare of course) and I can guarantee you there is no shaving.
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Yup, I know exactly what you mean.... but I'd rather be poor or not AS well off than to cheat anyone. I kinda like sleeping at night.... :thumbsup |
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I could only hope that most sponsors, at least the big boys don't shave.
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SoulCash doesn't shave and you can test it all you'd like.
Get started with this: http://jizzlickers.com/t1/cfree=gfy/ SixNine |
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I know FlyntDigital and Adult Paymaster are not shaving me
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I pray for the day that the DOJ busts some heads on shaving.
Time to go sacrifice yet another goat, maybe tomorrow the gods will answer my prayers. |
I found it funny that a few of my really old sponsors, ones that I had just let the rebills run out over time on, had shaved me my one remaining rebill a few times. It's like you have one lone rebill month after month... then suddenly one month goes by and no rebill. You think "that's it, no more cheques from that sponsor".... then the next month that lone rebill is magically back again. :D
Shaved! Hey, gotta laugh over that. |
i wouldn't say all of them do it, but i'd put it at about 80% at the least. if you even look at it logically, when sales dry up on one particular sponsor for nearly everyone at the same time, are the odds in favor of all the surfers quitting buying at once from that one sponsor, or the sponsor is just shaving a little harder. obviously anyone with half a brain can see that thousands and thousands of surfers don't all get together to conspire to make your ratios double for only a limited amout of time.
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I can just about count on one hand the number of solid exposures I have seen over the past 9 years. So assuming there are people from time to time who have real evidence, they must either think it gives them an edge of some kind to keep it to themselves or else they are too scared to show it. Either way they help the thieves keep operating and sit back while webmasters go on getting screwed.
Most shaving complaints aren't near as clear-cut and if one ever looks like it might be taken seriously, the sponsor usually has enough friends, etc to come along and rubbish whoever is complaining. |
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If you think about this for more then one second you are wasting you time. Send traffic, make checks, stick with company that makes you the most money. Worry about stuff you can control. period. |
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If you had a shave proof program (dunno how you'd do that but if it were possible) and you paid $20 per signup, nobody would send you traffic. Open a program with custom coded affiliate software that has a built in shave feature, and offer webmasters $40 per signup, and everyone and their brother sends traffic. If you pay an honest $20 per signup nobody sends traffic....if you shave half the sales and pay $40 per signup everyone sends traffic. If you're a program owner which one do you do? Do you sit on your soapbox and scream that the companies with higher payouts are shaving......while you go bankrupt? Or do you play the game by the same rules as everyone else and make money? |
I would not say all, We dont. But I will agree that MOST do.
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This business should step back and allow a little more honesty into it.
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What an idiot, everyone DOES NOT SHAVE. Bottom line, not everyone shaves, some do, some dont. Think what you want, but most of the people accusing of shaving are wrong.
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yeah, listen to jayeff he is a "stand up guy" :thumbsup :thumbsup :winkwink: |
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