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Dexter_Hagen 06-15-2011 02:26 AM

today's mobile traffic value
 
Peace!

If i have lets say 100k mobile teen traffic available during one month. Redirected from teen toplists - visitors are expecting free pictures or videos with young ladies. Do you have idea what is its valeu on today's market?

Sarah - GTS 06-15-2011 04:01 AM

Most of the mobile traffic at the moment is in demand based on country more so than Niche. However - the future is going to start trending to Niche mobile traffic - we are already working on multiple solutions for this.

To answer your question I am seeing rates for redirects land anywhere from $1.90/k (low demand countries) up to over $20/k - again depending on the country. Feel free to hit me up anytime I'd be happy to chat mobile :)

Dexter_Hagen 06-15-2011 04:25 AM

Yes, i have found that US traffic doesnt convert well with my current sponsor, so im sending them only the rest of my mobile traffic...

So from your reply i can see that if i have 100k of no US teen mobile traffic, it could be sold for at least 190 dollars, but i think there is high % of german and other european traffic with higher value... thank you, what is your experience with US mobile traffic please?

Markul 06-15-2011 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen (Post 18216997)
Yes, i have found that US traffic doesnt convert well with my current sponsor, so im sending them only the rest of my mobile traffic...

So from your reply i can see that if i have 100k of no US teen mobile traffic, it could be sold for at least 190 dollars, but i think there is high % of german and other european traffic with higher value... thank you, what is your experience with US mobile traffic please?

Send EU traffic to the sponsor in my sig, that'll make you more than selling it ever will. Especially if it's German! :thumbsup

Hit me up on ICQ if you wanna talk about it.

CamChameleon 06-15-2011 05:19 AM

Dexter, The euro traffic (UK, Germany, France, Spain etc) is worth more than the USA but its key to find out what type of carrier/network and the handsets the customers are coming in on. The reason the price is higher and it converts so well is the mobile billing (premium rate WAP and SMS solutions) that is used for one off purchases or subscriptions. If the traffic you have can be targeted by region, carrier/network & handset then you will really see the value of it. Wifi traffic is hard to convert as you have to be able to identify the customer before they can use a premium rate mobile billing solution. Each region has it different rules and regulations to follow regrading the payouts & content. The carriers/networks still demand a very high % for using these premium rate solutions to bill your customers!

A suggestion maybe not to sell the traffic but to find a partner in the EU that has the right products, platform and billing and knows how to convert the traffic in the key regions. Do a rev share deal so that you earn for the life time of the traffic rather than just a one off payment. :2 cents:

TheDoc 06-15-2011 07:39 AM

That's tough to answer.... if you have a good site to send them to and the quality isn't total trash coming in, then it could do really well, easily 30-50+ sales a day.

U.S. traffic needs to be split up better based on devices, a micro device change can really make a difference. Check out Topbucks, they do exactly that and may be able to help with your overall filtering. Hit them up, they know the game better than anyone.

Sly 06-15-2011 07:42 AM

Where are you sending the traffic right now?

The first thing you should do is contact your affiliate rep and see if they have any input. If they can't really help you, I would recommend talking to the affiliate reps at another mobile company and see what they can do for you. Keep trying new things until you find what works best for you.

Not sure where you are sending right now, but if you need somebody at Top Bucks to speak with feel free to shoot me a message at: 147479144

Dexter_Hagen 06-15-2011 08:18 AM

Im using some sponsor just few days but here are my stats http://www.speedyshare.com/files/289...st_numbers.jpg
forth day I stopped redirecting US traffic to them because of very low ratio

Sly 06-15-2011 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen (Post 18217391)
Im using some sponsor just few days but here are my stats http://www.speedyshare.com/files/289...st_numbers.jpg
forth day I stopped redirecting US traffic to them because of very low ratio

Sex Goes Mobile is a great company and can monetize all sorts of "foreign" traffic very well. I would be happy to talk to you more about your American traffic. There is no reason you can't continue sending your non-American to SGM and your American traffic to a company that works more with that sort of traffic. We do have a few different options for teen as well.

My number is 147479144 and I'll be around all day.

TheDoc 06-15-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen (Post 18217391)
Im using some sponsor just few days but here are my stats http://www.speedyshare.com/files/289...st_numbers.jpg
forth day I stopped redirecting US traffic to them because of very low ratio

sgm is good stuff... it looks like you need to micro filter some more and/or find a sponsor that can do more of the hard work for you, then filter off what they can't work with to someone you can.

Mobile is a filter game, but once you get it, it's golden!

Dexter_Hagen 06-15-2011 08:32 AM

I'm able to filter everything by myself. I can filter by country and I have most traffic with tags: teen, fetish, amateur, mature...

Nicky 06-15-2011 08:43 AM

If you happen to have EU mobile traffic we convert and pay pretty well. Especially our gay bukkake mobile site, It's the only one around and 100% exclusive content. Teen traffic would work on mobileporn.tv but It seems you have both SGM and Topbucks railed up there and they are good peeps.

Dexter_Hagen 06-15-2011 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 18217455)
If you happen to have EU mobile traffic we convert and pay pretty well. Especially our gay bukkake mobile site, It's the only one around and 100% exclusive content. Teen traffic would work on mobileporn.tv but It seems you have both SGM and Topbucks railed up there and they are good peeps.

Hey, you are still alive? I was using your programm few years ago. I can see two rebills in my stats remote, but cant see them in your stats. I have just renewed password for account "dobytek", can you check it and email me please? If i have some money with you, i would like to change my epassporte payment method...:) Its pitty you have no mobile version for your straight fetish sites, i have big fetish sites with lot of euro traffic.

kristin 06-15-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon (Post 18217050)
Dexter, The euro traffic (UK, Germany, France, Spain etc) is worth more than the USA but its key to find out what type of carrier/network and the handsets the customers are coming in on. T

I don't agree it does better overall than US. We find our CPA to be worth more on US traffic than when we filter it off. However, would I send Germans to my site? Heck no, we send to SGM and we make great money with them.

The way we bill in the US is custom to North Americans and they are charged about the same per month, just done on a weekly basis in Europe via phone. It comes down to ability, Euros don't use CCs as much, Americans can't SMS, and we are all use to this.

Dexter_Hagen 06-15-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18217517)
I don't agree it does better overall than US. We find our CPA to be worth more on US traffic than when we filter it off. However, would I send Germans to my site? Heck no, we send to SGM and we make great money with them.

The way we bill in the US is custom to North Americans and they are charged about the same per month, just done on a weekly basis in Europe via phone. It comes down to ability, Euros don't use CCs as much, Americans can't SMS, and we are all use to this.

You are picky taking webmasters, my country is prohibited... ;)

Sly 06-15-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen (Post 18217543)
You are picky taking webmasters, my country is prohibited... ;)

Sign-up. I'll approve you right now. Czech Republic?

Nicky 06-15-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen (Post 18217501)
Hey, you are still alive? I was using your programm few years ago. I can see two rebills in my stats remote, but cant see them in your stats. I have just renewed password for account "dobytek", can you check it and email me please? If i have some money with you, i would like to change my epassporte payment method...:) Its pitty you have no mobile version for your straight fetish sites, i have big fetish sites with lot of euro traffic.

Heyhey. Emailing you.

CamChameleon 06-15-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18217517)
I don't agree it does better overall than US. We find our CPA to be worth more on US traffic than when we filter it off. However, would I send Germans to my site? Heck no, we send to SGM and we make great money with them.

If i understood Dexters question correctly he was asking about the price of traffic when selling it not about you ability to monetize US traffic with your products.

Whats the CPC/CPM for the USA vs Germany right now for mobile traffic? what do you think/know costs the most?

Why send to SGM cant you guys bill in Germany? i thought you were the best? :winkwink:

Dexter_Hagen 06-15-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon (Post 18217681)
If i understood Dexters question correctly he was asking about the price of traffic when selling it not about you ability to monetize US traffic with your products.

Whats the CPC/CPM for the USA vs Germany right now for mobile traffic? what do you think/know costs the most?

Why send to SGM cant you guys bill in Germany? i thought you were the best? :winkwink:

I didnt well with us traffic on SGM sites so ill try their product until i find better price. :)

kristin 06-15-2011 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen (Post 18217543)
You are picky taking webmasters, my country is prohibited... ;)

That's initially for fraud reasons and has been setup that way from the beginning. If a WM signs up or contacts us, we look at the reasons and usually override it.

So signup and like Sly said, he'll approve you. :)

kristin 06-15-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon (Post 18217681)
If i understood Dexters question correctly he was asking about the price of traffic when selling it not about you ability to monetize US traffic with your products.

Whats the CPC/CPM for the USA vs Germany right now for mobile traffic? what do you think/know costs the most?

Why send to SGM cant you guys bill in Germany? i thought you were the best? :winkwink:

We can't SMS as a US company, SGM can and that's the preferred method of surfers in Europe. We consider ourselves top notch for US and webkit traffic and we have never denied that we do not convert Germany and other SMS reliant countries better than the others. Italian traffic, we have very little and wouldn't get many sales. Now we filter it, 300 sales/day at least with insane rebills.

kristin 06-15-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen (Post 18217734)
I didnt well with us traffic on SGM sites so ill try their product until i find better price. :)

And I believe SGM would tell you the same thing, that they can't convert US traffic as well. Its because of the phones. Nokia type phones are still huge over in Europe whereas North America is webkit. Our sites looks like shit on Nokia phones and vice versa. And then the whole SMS thing, Americans cannot SMS bill to their phones for porn, it's a rule agreed upon by all the American cell phone providers. We've tried and used other methods but the % the phone company takes along with the SMS middle man is crazy and not worth all the hassle.

PR_Dave 06-15-2011 10:51 AM

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Dexter_Hagen 06-15-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18217744)
That's initially for fraud reasons and has been setup that way from the beginning. If a WM signs up or contacts us, we look at the reasons and usually override it.

So signup and like Sly said, he'll approve you. :)

I have signed up already and had chat with Sly. I told him i could promote your sites since 1998 if you dont have list of proibited countries at your website. :-) As you dont know your new webmaster so webmaster doesnt know you. Its about trust from begining until each makes experience with other. You can hold one webmasters fraud better then single webmaster your fraud... I just want to say, that closed doors for some people is not good for marketing and isnt our and every busines about making the most money? :)

CamChameleon 06-15-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18217747)
We can't SMS as a US company, SGM can and that's the preferred method of surfers in Europe. We consider ourselves top notch for US and webkit traffic and we have never denied that we do not convert Germany and other SMS reliant countries better than the others. Italian traffic, we have very little and wouldn't get many sales. Now we filter it, 300 sales/day at least with insane rebills.

I agree totally with you on the top notch'ness of Top Bucks. I have worked with Sly who looked after me very well and I have seen great value in your products and the way you deliver them. It converted 150k USA/Smartphone tube traffic at a ratio of 1:1400. Is it just the billing that you guys need assistance with in the EU regions? I have an multi region API that could help you reduce the value chain as the build of the site and the content can surely be replicated with ease.

kristin 06-15-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon (Post 18217802)
I agree totally with you on the top notch'ness of Top Bucks. I have worked with Sly who looked after me very well and I have seen great value in your products and the way you deliver them. It converted 150k USA/Smartphone tube traffic at a ratio of 1:1400. Is it just the billing that you guys need assistance with in the EU regions? I have an multi region API that could help you reduce the value chain as the build of the site and the content can surely be replicated with ease.

Not just the billing, I know I posted like three responses in a row (my pet peeve) and in one of them I had mentioned it's also the phones and sites. We have webkit built sites - blackberries, androids, iPhones, etc. whereas Europe isn't there yet, their popular phones are WAP, Nokia type phones. So the sites made for those work better obviously.

The other thing when doing SMS billing is the relationships that need to be built with the telecoms, which we don't have.

kristin 06-15-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen (Post 18217790)
I have signed up already and had chat with Sly. I told him i could promote your sites since 1998 if you dont have list of proibited countries at your website. :-) As you dont know your new webmaster so webmaster doesnt know you. Its about trust from begining until each makes experience with other. You can hold one webmasters fraud better then single webmaster your fraud... I just want to say, that closed doors for some people is not good for marketing and isnt our and every busines about making the most money? :)

Valid points. I'm talking to our guys now about lifting the restriction completely or reducing the countries that are prohibited.

CamChameleon 06-15-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18217811)
Not just the billing, I know I posted like three responses in a row (my pet peeve) and in one of them I had mentioned it's also the phones and sites. We have webkit built sites - blackberries, androids, iPhones, etc. whereas Europe isn't there yet, their popular phones are WAP, Nokia type phones. So the sites made for those work better obviously.

The other thing when doing SMS billing is the relationships that need to be built with the telecoms, which we don't have.

If you would like to talk in more detail i can contact you via email. We have a full non smartphone platform that can be implemented by a third party. We have the relationships with the telecoms and have had them for many years so is no need for you to have them as well. If you feel that the market in the EU could be cracked with a tech partner rather than a product provider i have two pieces that could make that happen :winkwink:

kristin 06-15-2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon (Post 18217865)
If you would like to talk in more detail i can contact you via email. We have a full non smartphone platform that can be implemented by a third party. We have the relationships with the telecoms and have had them for many years so is no need for you to have them as well. If you feel that the market in the EU could be cracked with a tech partner rather than a product provider i have two pieces that could make that happen :winkwink:

Sure, hit me up - kristin @ topbucks.com

Thanks!

kristin 06-15-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen (Post 18217790)
I have signed up already and had chat with Sly. I told him i could promote your sites since 1998 if you dont have list of proibited countries at your website. :-) As you dont know your new webmaster so webmaster doesnt know you. Its about trust from begining until each makes experience with other. You can hold one webmasters fraud better then single webmaster your fraud... I just want to say, that closed doors for some people is not good for marketing and isnt our and every busines about making the most money? :)

Programming has removed the prohibited countries link on the join page and we changed the TOS to reflect the change. Now some countries may be subject to additional screening. Meaning you have to send naked pics to Sly. :)


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