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Dexter_Hagen · 06-15-2011, 02:26 AM

Peace!

If i have lets say 100k mobile teen traffic available during one month. Redirected from teen toplists - visitors are expecting free pictures or videos with young ladies. Do you have idea what is its valeu on today's market?

Sarah - GTS · 06-15-2011, 04:01 AM

Most of the mobile traffic at the moment is in demand based on country more so than Niche. However - the future is going to start trending to Niche mobile traffic - we are already working on multiple solutions for this.

To answer your question I am seeing rates for redirects land anywhere from $1.90/k (low demand countries) up to over $20/k - again depending on the country. Feel free to hit me up anytime I'd be happy to chat mobile

Dexter_Hagen · 06-15-2011, 04:25 AM

Yes, i have found that US traffic doesnt convert well with my current sponsor, so im sending them only the rest of my mobile traffic...

So from your reply i can see that if i have 100k of no US teen mobile traffic, it could be sold for at least 190 dollars, but i think there is high % of german and other european traffic with higher value... thank you, what is your experience with US mobile traffic please?

Markul · 06-15-2011, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen

Yes, i have found that US traffic doesnt convert well with my current sponsor, so im sending them only the rest of my mobile traffic...

So from your reply i can see that if i have 100k of no US teen mobile traffic, it could be sold for at least 190 dollars, but i think there is high % of german and other european traffic with higher value... thank you, what is your experience with US mobile traffic please?

Send EU traffic to the sponsor in my sig, that'll make you more than selling it ever will. Especially if it's German!

Hit me up on ICQ if you wanna talk about it.

CamChameleon · 06-15-2011, 05:19 AM

Dexter, The euro traffic (UK, Germany, France, Spain etc) is worth more than the USA but its key to find out what type of carrier/network and the handsets the customers are coming in on. The reason the price is higher and it converts so well is the mobile billing (premium rate WAP and SMS solutions) that is used for one off purchases or subscriptions. If the traffic you have can be targeted by region, carrier/network & handset then you will really see the value of it. Wifi traffic is hard to convert as you have to be able to identify the customer before they can use a premium rate mobile billing solution. Each region has it different rules and regulations to follow regrading the payouts & content. The carriers/networks still demand a very high % for using these premium rate solutions to bill your customers!

A suggestion maybe not to sell the traffic but to find a partner in the EU that has the right products, platform and billing and knows how to convert the traffic in the key regions. Do a rev share deal so that you earn for the life time of the traffic rather than just a one off payment.

TheDoc · 06-15-2011, 07:39 AM

That's tough to answer.... if you have a good site to send them to and the quality isn't total trash coming in, then it could do really well, easily 30-50+ sales a day.

U.S. traffic needs to be split up better based on devices, a micro device change can really make a difference. Check out Topbucks, they do exactly that and may be able to help with your overall filtering. Hit them up, they know the game better than anyone.

Sly · 06-15-2011, 07:42 AM

Where are you sending the traffic right now?

The first thing you should do is contact your affiliate rep and see if they have any input. If they can't really help you, I would recommend talking to the affiliate reps at another mobile company and see what they can do for you. Keep trying new things until you find what works best for you.

Not sure where you are sending right now, but if you need somebody at Top Bucks to speak with feel free to shoot me a message at: 147479144

Dexter_Hagen · 06-15-2011, 08:18 AM

Im using some sponsor just few days but here are my stats http://www.speedyshare.com/files/289...st_numbers.jpg
forth day I stopped redirecting US traffic to them because of very low ratio

Sly · 06-15-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen

Im using some sponsor just few days but here are my stats http://www.speedyshare.com/files/289...st_numbers.jpg
forth day I stopped redirecting US traffic to them because of very low ratio

Sex Goes Mobile is a great company and can monetize all sorts of "foreign" traffic very well. I would be happy to talk to you more about your American traffic. There is no reason you can't continue sending your non-American to SGM and your American traffic to a company that works more with that sort of traffic. We do have a few different options for teen as well.

My number is 147479144 and I'll be around all day.

TheDoc · 06-15-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen

Im using some sponsor just few days but here are my stats http://www.speedyshare.com/files/289...st_numbers.jpg
forth day I stopped redirecting US traffic to them because of very low ratio

sgm is good stuff... it looks like you need to micro filter some more and/or find a sponsor that can do more of the hard work for you, then filter off what they can't work with to someone you can.

Mobile is a filter game, but once you get it, it's golden!

Dexter_Hagen · 06-15-2011, 08:32 AM

I'm able to filter everything by myself. I can filter by country and I have most traffic with tags: teen, fetish, amateur, mature...

Nicky · 06-15-2011, 08:43 AM

If you happen to have EU mobile traffic we convert and pay pretty well. Especially our gay bukkake mobile site, It's the only one around and 100% exclusive content. Teen traffic would work on mobileporn.tv but It seems you have both SGM and Topbucks railed up there and they are good peeps.

Dexter_Hagen · 06-15-2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

If you happen to have EU mobile traffic we convert and pay pretty well. Especially our gay bukkake mobile site, It's the only one around and 100% exclusive content. Teen traffic would work on mobileporn.tv but It seems you have both SGM and Topbucks railed up there and they are good peeps.

Hey, you are still alive? I was using your programm few years ago. I can see two rebills in my stats remote, but cant see them in your stats. I have just renewed password for account "dobytek", can you check it and email me please? If i have some money with you, i would like to change my epassporte payment method...

Its pitty you have no mobile version for your straight fetish sites, i have big fetish sites with lot of euro traffic.

kristin · 06-15-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon

Dexter, The euro traffic (UK, Germany, France, Spain etc) is worth more than the USA but its key to find out what type of carrier/network and the handsets the customers are coming in on. T

I don't agree it does better overall than US. We find our CPA to be worth more on US traffic than when we filter it off. However, would I send Germans to my site? Heck no, we send to SGM and we make great money with them.

The way we bill in the US is custom to North Americans and they are charged about the same per month, just done on a weekly basis in Europe via phone. It comes down to ability, Euros don't use CCs as much, Americans can't SMS, and we are all use to this.

Dexter_Hagen · 06-15-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

I don't agree it does better overall than US. We find our CPA to be worth more on US traffic than when we filter it off. However, would I send Germans to my site? Heck no, we send to SGM and we make great money with them.

The way we bill in the US is custom to North Americans and they are charged about the same per month, just done on a weekly basis in Europe via phone. It comes down to ability, Euros don't use CCs as much, Americans can't SMS, and we are all use to this.

You are picky taking webmasters, my country is prohibited... ;)

Sly · 06-15-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen

You are picky taking webmasters, my country is prohibited... ;)

Sign-up. I'll approve you right now. Czech Republic?

Nicky · 06-15-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen

Hey, you are still alive? I was using your programm few years ago. I can see two rebills in my stats remote, but cant see them in your stats. I have just renewed password for account "dobytek", can you check it and email me please? If i have some money with you, i would like to change my epassporte payment method...

Its pitty you have no mobile version for your straight fetish sites, i have big fetish sites with lot of euro traffic.

Heyhey. Emailing you.

CamChameleon · 06-15-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

I don't agree it does better overall than US. We find our CPA to be worth more on US traffic than when we filter it off. However, would I send Germans to my site? Heck no, we send to SGM and we make great money with them.

If i understood Dexters question correctly he was asking about the price of traffic when selling it not about you ability to monetize US traffic with your products.

Whats the CPC/CPM for the USA vs Germany right now for mobile traffic? what do you think/know costs the most?

Why send to SGM cant you guys bill in Germany? i thought you were the best?

Dexter_Hagen · 06-15-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon

If i understood Dexters question correctly he was asking about the price of traffic when selling it not about you ability to monetize US traffic with your products.

Whats the CPC/CPM for the USA vs Germany right now for mobile traffic? what do you think/know costs the most?

Why send to SGM cant you guys bill in Germany? i thought you were the best?

I didnt well with us traffic on SGM sites so ill try their product until i find better price.

kristin · 06-15-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen

You are picky taking webmasters, my country is prohibited... ;)

That's initially for fraud reasons and has been setup that way from the beginning. If a WM signs up or contacts us, we look at the reasons and usually override it.

So signup and like Sly said, he'll approve you.

kristin · 06-15-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon

If i understood Dexters question correctly he was asking about the price of traffic when selling it not about you ability to monetize US traffic with your products.

Whats the CPC/CPM for the USA vs Germany right now for mobile traffic? what do you think/know costs the most?

Why send to SGM cant you guys bill in Germany? i thought you were the best?

We can't SMS as a US company, SGM can and that's the preferred method of surfers in Europe. We consider ourselves top notch for US and webkit traffic and we have never denied that we do not convert Germany and other SMS reliant countries better than the others. Italian traffic, we have very little and wouldn't get many sales. Now we filter it, 300 sales/day at least with insane rebills.

kristin · 06-15-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen

I didnt well with us traffic on SGM sites so ill try their product until i find better price.

And I believe SGM would tell you the same thing, that they can't convert US traffic as well. Its because of the phones. Nokia type phones are still huge over in Europe whereas North America is webkit. Our sites looks like shit on Nokia phones and vice versa. And then the whole SMS thing, Americans cannot SMS bill to their phones for porn, it's a rule agreed upon by all the American cell phone providers. We've tried and used other methods but the % the phone company takes along with the SMS middle man is crazy and not worth all the hassle.

PR_Dave · 06-15-2011, 10:51 AM

http://mobile.teengirls.com/

Dexter_Hagen · 06-15-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

That's initially for fraud reasons and has been setup that way from the beginning. If a WM signs up or contacts us, we look at the reasons and usually override it.

So signup and like Sly said, he'll approve you.

I have signed up already and had chat with Sly. I told him i could promote your sites since 1998 if you dont have list of proibited countries at your website. :-) As you dont know your new webmaster so webmaster doesnt know you. Its about trust from begining until each makes experience with other. You can hold one webmasters fraud better then single webmaster your fraud... I just want to say, that closed doors for some people is not good for marketing and isnt our and every busines about making the most money?

CamChameleon · 06-15-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

We can't SMS as a US company, SGM can and that's the preferred method of surfers in Europe. We consider ourselves top notch for US and webkit traffic and we have never denied that we do not convert Germany and other SMS reliant countries better than the others. Italian traffic, we have very little and wouldn't get many sales. Now we filter it, 300 sales/day at least with insane rebills.

I agree totally with you on the top notch'ness of Top Bucks. I have worked with Sly who looked after me very well and I have seen great value in your products and the way you deliver them. It converted 150k USA/Smartphone tube traffic at a ratio of 1:1400. Is it just the billing that you guys need assistance with in the EU regions? I have an multi region API that could help you reduce the value chain as the build of the site and the content can surely be replicated with ease.

kristin · 06-15-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon

I agree totally with you on the top notch'ness of Top Bucks. I have worked with Sly who looked after me very well and I have seen great value in your products and the way you deliver them. It converted 150k USA/Smartphone tube traffic at a ratio of 1:1400. Is it just the billing that you guys need assistance with in the EU regions? I have an multi region API that could help you reduce the value chain as the build of the site and the content can surely be replicated with ease.

Not just the billing, I know I posted like three responses in a row (my pet peeve) and in one of them I had mentioned it's also the phones and sites. We have webkit built sites - blackberries, androids, iPhones, etc. whereas Europe isn't there yet, their popular phones are WAP, Nokia type phones. So the sites made for those work better obviously.

The other thing when doing SMS billing is the relationships that need to be built with the telecoms, which we don't have.

kristin · 06-15-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen

I have signed up already and had chat with Sly. I told him i could promote your sites since 1998 if you dont have list of proibited countries at your website. :-) As you dont know your new webmaster so webmaster doesnt know you. Its about trust from begining until each makes experience with other. You can hold one webmasters fraud better then single webmaster your fraud... I just want to say, that closed doors for some people is not good for marketing and isnt our and every busines about making the most money?

Valid points. I'm talking to our guys now about lifting the restriction completely or reducing the countries that are prohibited.

CamChameleon · 06-15-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Not just the billing, I know I posted like three responses in a row (my pet peeve) and in one of them I had mentioned it's also the phones and sites. We have webkit built sites - blackberries, androids, iPhones, etc. whereas Europe isn't there yet, their popular phones are WAP, Nokia type phones. So the sites made for those work better obviously.

The other thing when doing SMS billing is the relationships that need to be built with the telecoms, which we don't have.

If you would like to talk in more detail i can contact you via email. We have a full non smartphone platform that can be implemented by a third party. We have the relationships with the telecoms and have had them for many years so is no need for you to have them as well. If you feel that the market in the EU could be cracked with a tech partner rather than a product provider i have two pieces that could make that happen

kristin · 06-15-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CamChameleon

If you would like to talk in more detail i can contact you via email. We have a full non smartphone platform that can be implemented by a third party. We have the relationships with the telecoms and have had them for many years so is no need for you to have them as well. If you feel that the market in the EU could be cracked with a tech partner rather than a product provider i have two pieces that could make that happen

Sure, hit me up - kristin @ topbucks.com

Thanks!

kristin · 06-15-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dexter_Hagen

I have signed up already and had chat with Sly. I told him i could promote your sites since 1998 if you dont have list of proibited countries at your website. :-) As you dont know your new webmaster so webmaster doesnt know you. Its about trust from begining until each makes experience with other. You can hold one webmasters fraud better then single webmaster your fraud... I just want to say, that closed doors for some people is not good for marketing and isnt our and every busines about making the most money?

Programming has removed the prohibited countries link on the join page and we changed the TOS to reflect the change. Now some countries may be subject to additional screening. Meaning you have to send naked pics to Sly.

06-15-2011, 02:26 AM	#1
Dexter_Hagen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Prague Posts: 330	today's mobile traffic value Peace! If i have lets say 100k mobile teen traffic available during one month. Redirected from teen toplists - visitors are expecting free pictures or videos with young ladies. Do you have idea what is its valeu on today's market? __________________ Dexter Hagen HITSLAP.com Get hits \| Send hits \| Daily traffic breakdown \| Contact Setup traffic trades with more than 150 sites with just one FORM submission! 800k Impressions and over 600k hits to our trade partner's sites daily!

06-15-2011, 04:01 AM	#2
Sarah - GTS Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,656	Most of the mobile traffic at the moment is in demand based on country more so than Niche. However - the future is going to start trending to Niche mobile traffic - we are already working on multiple solutions for this. To answer your question I am seeing rates for redirects land anywhere from $1.90/k (low demand countries) up to over $20/k - again depending on the country. Feel free to hit me up anytime I'd be happy to chat mobile __________________ Buy Mobile traffic - target by county and / or device Got Mobile Traffic? don't redirect it away! We build you your very own mobile tube site complete with videos and pay you up to 20 cents PPC! Keep your valuable surfers, build traffic and build your SEO! There is no better solution for your mobile traffic! [email protected] ICQ# 229-972-572

06-15-2011, 04:25 AM	#3
Dexter_Hagen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Prague Posts: 330	Yes, i have found that US traffic doesnt convert well with my current sponsor, so im sending them only the rest of my mobile traffic... So from your reply i can see that if i have 100k of no US teen mobile traffic, it could be sold for at least 190 dollars, but i think there is high % of german and other european traffic with higher value... thank you, what is your experience with US mobile traffic please? __________________ Dexter Hagen HITSLAP.com Get hits \| Send hits \| Daily traffic breakdown \| Contact Setup traffic trades with more than 150 sites with just one FORM submission! 800k Impressions and over 600k hits to our trade partner's sites daily!

06-15-2011, 05:19 AM	#5
CamChameleon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: EU Posts: 295	Dexter, The euro traffic (UK, Germany, France, Spain etc) is worth more than the USA but its key to find out what type of carrier/network and the handsets the customers are coming in on. The reason the price is higher and it converts so well is the mobile billing (premium rate WAP and SMS solutions) that is used for one off purchases or subscriptions. If the traffic you have can be targeted by region, carrier/network & handset then you will really see the value of it. Wifi traffic is hard to convert as you have to be able to identify the customer before they can use a premium rate mobile billing solution. Each region has it different rules and regulations to follow regrading the payouts & content. The carriers/networks still demand a very high % for using these premium rate solutions to bill your customers! A suggestion maybe not to sell the traffic but to find a partner in the EU that has the right products, platform and billing and knows how to convert the traffic in the key regions. Do a rev share deal so that you earn for the life time of the traffic rather than just a one off payment. Last edited by CamChameleon; 06-15-2011 at 05:21 AM..

06-15-2011, 07:39 AM	#6
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	That's tough to answer.... if you have a good site to send them to and the quality isn't total trash coming in, then it could do really well, easily 30-50+ sales a day. U.S. traffic needs to be split up better based on devices, a micro device change can really make a difference. Check out Topbucks, they do exactly that and may be able to help with your overall filtering. Hit them up, they know the game better than anyone. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation Last edited by TheDoc; 06-15-2011 at 07:40 AM..

06-15-2011, 07:42 AM	#7
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,289	Where are you sending the traffic right now? The first thing you should do is contact your affiliate rep and see if they have any input. If they can't really help you, I would recommend talking to the affiliate reps at another mobile company and see what they can do for you. Keep trying new things until you find what works best for you. Not sure where you are sending right now, but if you need somebody at Top Bucks to speak with feel free to shoot me a message at: 147479144 __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale

06-15-2011, 08:18 AM	#8
Dexter_Hagen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Prague Posts: 330	Im using some sponsor just few days but here are my stats http://www.speedyshare.com/files/289...st_numbers.jpg forth day I stopped redirecting US traffic to them because of very low ratio __________________ Dexter Hagen HITSLAP.com Get hits \| Send hits \| Daily traffic breakdown \| Contact Setup traffic trades with more than 150 sites with just one FORM submission! 800k Impressions and over 600k hits to our trade partner's sites daily!

06-15-2011, 08:32 AM	#11
Dexter_Hagen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Prague Posts: 330	I'm able to filter everything by myself. I can filter by country and I have most traffic with tags: teen, fetish, amateur, mature... __________________ Dexter Hagen HITSLAP.com Get hits \| Send hits \| Daily traffic breakdown \| Contact Setup traffic trades with more than 150 sites with just one FORM submission! 800k Impressions and over 600k hits to our trade partner's sites daily!

06-15-2011, 08:43 AM	#12
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	If you happen to have EU mobile traffic we convert and pay pretty well. Especially our gay bukkake mobile site, It's the only one around and 100% exclusive content. Teen traffic would work on mobileporn.tv but It seems you have both SGM and Topbucks railed up there and they are good peeps. __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com Last edited by Nicky; 06-15-2011 at 08:44 AM..

06-15-2011, 10:51 AM	#23
PR_Dave Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 2,792	http://mobile.teengirls.com/ __________________ www.PIMPROLL.com