CCBill finally cut me off
 

Had an inactive site for years that still had recurring members on it month after month even though the site essentially no longer exists...

Every once in a while they'd fall off one by one getting cancelled... well today the 20-30 remaining were all cancelled at the same time, I guess CCBill pulled the plug.

That's what I should do now, instead of working - just post stupid pictures all day :1orglaugh :uhoh

Now you get it! Welcome to GFY! :thumbsup

another ccbill sucess story

ccbill is a fine company

edit: or not!

Personally I have problem with companies using their market position to overcharge. No I rather go with the one with lower fees, lower scrubbing, better throughput, newer technology and cooler name....

You have a dead paysite but talking about working. Something doesn't add up here.

(Just giving you a hard time....we all have dead projects)

Ouch! What did CCBill say?

That site made me a killing - but yes, I let it drop and I shouldn't have or else I'd probably be making even more than I am right now, I have other projects doing quite well now...

Bump for 20 dead members with recurring cc charges.

^ you look like a goof

:1orglaugh

On an unrelated note... AOL is bouncing NATS 4.1 emails...

They should have cut it off after the site went down really. When I had a paysite (nearly a decade ago) I closed down I gave one month's notice and then made sure no one was billed further. That's more of the proper way to do it without ripping anyone off. In theory your members could have charged back once the site went down.

All payment processors are suffering from chargeback paranoia. If you want free porn you just sign up to any site using your credit card and when you're finished downloading everything you contact the payment processor and say: do a refund now or I'll do a chargeback through my bank! I never was with CCbill, what they did sucks in my opinion but all other processors would do the same thing. I can't wait till the whole credit card system gets replaced by direct bank debits worldwide.

I don't see the rip off thing. Card holders could have cancelled their subscription. But some are just lazy and stupid. I have members with 3 accounts at the same time and that can go on for years and will only stop when the credit card expires :1orglaugh

I've been subscribed to non-updating sites for a year too, and I only blamed myself for that and didn't feel like being ripped off. Ripping off IMO would be continue charging the cards after subscription has been cancelled.

long time recurrers, using the company card

:helpme

1) One of the main benefits using a card processor is to have them look over the chargeback ratio. If I go over 1% on a merchant account, I'm fucked! With a third party processor I can always make up a plan to go below 1%, or even continue over 1% if they are nice and make money from my business. Chargeback paranoia is something I DEMAND that my processor have, then I feel safe.

2) And the whole credit card system will be replaced by direct banking? Wow..you really think that will happened? So if that is true..what do you think will happened when fraudsters need to find a new business model and phishing sites are starting to grow up everywhere and compromise your direct banking? Let me tell you: chargebacks! And you will be in the same position as you are now and hope for a new system that will save the world...


Personally in a near future I don't think it will be possible for an online business to get an direct merchant account with a bank due to all risk,compliance and international KYC. I bet you will only see third party processors out there... paypal, worldpay, bibit, google etc... and they will fight to have control over their chargebacks, even if it's credit card or direct banking chargebacks..... adopt :2cents:


ccbill definitely did the right thing :thumbsup:thumbsup

you can't even spell, go eat a cock.

Wow nice contribution.... did I spell that right?.... this place is really full of good business men.

Go and ask you father what other countries are.. and maybe he can explain for you that not all people have English as their native language.

Glad to hear CCBill did the right thing.

When I read these threads - for some strange reason - I just want someone to try to break into my house.

I more or less agree with that, but it hasn't been the case for the past couple of years, and it's hard to say no to the money coming in.

On another site that's gone down I did stop recurring on all members.

I hear you. But I have my own merchant account and the bank first warns me if chargebacks go too high and next step is paying more commission instead of being kicked off completely. And the third party procesorrors I work with don't really look at the chargeback ratio, they just show it to you in the dail stats and reports. But that's really something you can make yourself, even in excel.

Uh... the benefit of direct bank debits is that chargebacks aren't possible. And I'm not saying that it will happen (soon). My comment was merely wishful thinking. Another alternative would be that online credit card transactions without Visa secure code aren't possible anymore and that once the credit card holder submits the secure code, a chargeback is not possible. I was talking to a payment processor the other day who charges 12% and doesn't even provide with secure code! Insane!

I agree, and you forgot PCI. A full PCI server system costs $1500 a month.

Would be great if PayPal would get their act together and accept online adult. They already accepted adult mailorder which is a good omen. But with PayPal you have the same problem... people can buy an account and when they downloaded everything, complain to PayPal and demand a refund. So when it comes to chargebacks I don't see an advantage in PayPal over credit cards.

I really hope we will get this global direct bank debit soon and I'm going to look into pay-by-phone again.

Learn to use the ignore function, it's great. Most here are frustrated losers who try to impress their online gay buddies with gross humor. I see that superloser BIGTYMER is posting in his thread but I can't see his dumb predictable comments because he was the first loser I put on my ignore list. He claims he's in Bordeaux but he isn't really, he probably lives in a Township in South Africa and if I make one phone call they're going to necklace him :1orglaugh

fuck ccbill they are stuck in the 1990s. my advice to everyone - stay clear of ccbill they will ass fuck you.

plus they are buddies with chris mallick