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Phillipmcd1 02-17-2013 04:19 PM

Google looks to cut funds to illegal sites
 
Google is in discussions with payment companies including Visa, Mastercard and PayPal to put illegal download websites out of existence by cutting off their funding.

The web search giant, which is embroiled in a long-running row over the way it deals with pirated material, is considering the radical measure so that it can get rid of the root cause instead of having to change its own search results.
Executives want to stop websites more or less dedicated to offering links to pirated films, music and books from making money out of the illegal material. The plans, still in discussion, would also block funding to websites that do not respond to legal challenges, for example because they are offshore.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...gal-sites.html

pornmasta 02-17-2013 04:24 PM

that's stupid, if something is illegal and the bank knows it, then they HAVE to deny the transaction.

halfpint 02-17-2013 04:26 PM

Google should look at thier own ads on pirate sites. Love to know how much they have made from pirate sites over the last 10 years

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 02-17-2013 04:27 PM

http://jonnycampbell.com/journal/wp-...-pot-dawes.png

:2 cents:

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Captain Kawaii 02-17-2013 04:28 PM

Great news. Hope it happens. I cant think of any crooks who will put up FREE links out of the goodness of their heart. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It might be messy at first but overall a win.

Gator 02-17-2013 04:50 PM

Fuck Google. The pioneers of of making copyright infringement acceptable and tracking your every move like an FBI agent hunting a terrorist.

livexxx 02-17-2013 05:31 PM

perhaps they can clean up what kind of adwords they sell then

seeandsee 02-17-2013 05:31 PM

google is just linking to them :)

Zeiss 02-17-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19485820)
Google should look at thier own ads on pirate sites. Love to know how much they have made from pirate sites over the last 10 years

:thumbsup:thumbsup

pornmasta 02-17-2013 06:14 PM

google can't make the police if they could protect their own interests.

A drug dealer denounces his competitors.

AllAboutCams 02-17-2013 06:19 PM

What about bing and yahoo

MakingItPay 02-17-2013 06:20 PM

Wow. Would have to be a lot of new adapting if that happened. I'll believe it when I see it, but Visa and MasterCard pulling out of illegal sites would have a big impact. Piracy will always exist, but not being able to make money from it would hurt.

pornmasta 02-17-2013 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 19485953)
Wow. Would have to be a lot of new adapting if that happened. I'll believe it when I see it, but Visa and MasterCard pulling out of illegal sites would have a big impact. Piracy will always exist, but not being able to make money from it would hurt.

The problem is to decide who is a pirate or not while they are not a tribunal.
Basically they want justice powers

Zeiss 02-17-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19485951)
What about bing and yahoo

What about them?

MakingItPay 02-17-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19485954)
The problem is to decide who is a pirate or not while they are not a tribunal.
Basically they want justice powers

Yes, it could be a problem. Current problem is worse. Everything someone produces gets stolen and thieves earn money from it. :thumbsup

pornmasta 02-17-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 19485967)
Yes, it could be a problem. Current problem is worse. Everything someone produces gets stolen and thieves earn money from it. :thumbsup

the current problem is worse, partially because of google... and google is gonna protect their own business. I call this hypocrisy...

AllAboutCams 02-17-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zealotry (Post 19485958)
What about them?

If google drops them they will still be on bing and yahoo

MakingItPay 02-17-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19485978)
the current problem is worse, partially because of google... and google is gonna protect their own business. I call this hypocrisy...

You are so right!!! But if they clean up their act, I'm happy!

pornmasta 02-17-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19485984)
If google drops them they will still be on bing and yahoo

don't worry it's not gonna happen:

http://jonnycampbell.com/journal/wp-...-pot-dawes.png
(as seen above)

MakingItPay 02-17-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19485984)
If google drops them they will still be on bing and yahoo

Google isn't going to drop them. They are talking about getting Visa and MasterCard to drop them. Then it won't matter where they are listed.

PornMD 02-17-2013 07:15 PM

They'll all switch over to dealing in bitcoins. Bitcoins are the future.

:1orglaugh

Dirty F 02-17-2013 08:52 PM

What exactly does Google have to do with this? I don't get it.

Zeiss 02-17-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19486093)
What exactly does Google have to do with this? I don't get it.

They link to this shit, they can stop it. :1orglaugh

MakingItPay 02-17-2013 09:03 PM

Google doesn't want to censor them with search. Instead they want to rid the internet of illegal sites.

Dirty F 02-17-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zealotry (Post 19486094)
They link to this shit, they can stop it. :1orglaugh

The article says the linking won't be changed. So what is their part in this story?

Dirty F 02-17-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 19486103)
Google doesn't want to censor them with search. Instead they want to rid the internet of illegal sites.

How? They are not the police? The only thing they should do is stop linking them. And they won't.

naughty1 02-17-2013 09:48 PM

So Lets See Google will be first one shut down then RIGHT LOL

MakingItPay 02-17-2013 09:51 PM

It doesn't take a genius to determine a piracy site. Google gets lots of takedown requests so they know. Now they are working with Visa and MasterCard to shut them down. So what? There are no pirates here. Everyone here hates pirate sites making money on their stolen material.

MakingItPay 02-17-2013 10:17 PM

Google cant remove searches to pirated material. If they did, competing engines would not and would gain a ton of market share. So to remove their dependency on pirate traffic revenue, they need to put pirate sites out of business, and then no engine can have more pirate searches than google. Pirate traffic will be minimized and the loud voices accusing google af aiding piracy will be quelled.

GregE 02-17-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 19486176)
Google cant remove searches to pirated material. If they did, competing engines would not and would gain a ton of market share. So to remove their dependency on pirate traffic revenue, they need to put pirate sites out of business, and then no engine can have more pirate searches than google. Pirate traffic will be minimized and the loud voices accusing google af aiding piracy will be quelled.

Well played on Google's part.

And good news for honest players :thumbsup

Dirty F 02-17-2013 10:41 PM

So can anyone tell me how Google is going to put them out of business?

Slappin Fish 02-17-2013 11:36 PM

With the mountain of data they have they could easily just remove them from SERPs but of course that would mean a small loss of market share.

Typical Google, want to get rid of piracy but want others to carry to burden. God forbid it impact them financially. :321GFY

johnnyloadproductions 02-18-2013 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19485823)

Not sure if that's a negative or positive result. Hopefully currently Sober chimes in. :2 cents:

Google Expert 02-18-2013 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 19485995)
Google isn't going to drop them. They are talking about getting Visa and MasterCard to drop them. Then it won't matter where they are listed.

then these sites would just put up cam and dating ads

nothing's gonna change

topnotch, standup guy 02-18-2013 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19486224)
With the mountain of data they have they could easily just remove them from SERPs but of course that would mean a small loss of market share.

Typical Google, want to get rid of piracy but want others to carry to burden. God forbid it impact them financially. :321GFY

I hear you.

But better they get rid of the scum by passing the buck than to not get rid of it at all.
.

Captain Kawaii 02-18-2013 03:10 AM

Re-read the article.

if Google succeeds, credit card companies will not work with sites in piracy mode. It will affect all search engines. It means the end of tubes for example because the financial incentive will be gone. TSIHTF!

Black All Through 02-18-2013 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19485817)
that's stupid, if something is illegal and the bank knows it, then they HAVE to deny the transaction.

Exactly!! :2 cents:

Google Expert 02-18-2013 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19486340)
Re-read the article.

if Google succeeds, credit card companies will not work with sites in piracy mode. It will affect all search engines. It means the end of tubes for example because the financial incentive will be gone. TSIHTF!

Tubes make money from external adds, like dating, cams etc.

This will have no effect on them.

Dirty F 02-18-2013 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19486340)
Re-read the article.

if Google succeeds, credit card companies will not work with sites in piracy mode. It will affect all search engines. It means the end of tubes for example because the financial incentive will be gone. TSIHTF!

If they succeed in what exactly?

What is Google going to do?

Call up Visa and say you can't process for site x?

Captain Kawaii 02-18-2013 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19486382)
If they succeed in what exactly?

What is Google going to do?

Call up Visa and say you can't process for site x?

Lets see what happens. They obviously have some ideas about this. From the article it appears a key component of the idea is sites linking to. Think about ad networks and cams that link to illegal and cp....google is attempting to cast a wide net so they do not have to change their search methodology. Lets see what happens. My guess is google is having so many legal problems lately they are trying to counter the negative effects.

My other guess is this is a result of Google being overwhelmed by DMCA's from producers. A big thank you to all those who cc their DMCA's to google. It may be working.

adultmobile 02-18-2013 08:58 AM

Google could simply hire AdultKing.

Dirty F 02-18-2013 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19486722)
Google could simply hire AdultKing.

No, not really :1orglaugh

pornguy 02-18-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19485817)
that's stupid, if something is illegal and the bank knows it, then they HAVE to deny the transaction.

I guess you did not read the memo about how politics in the US really works.

No one cares. And in the long run when Visa and MC see how much they will lose, they WONT put a stop to it and NOTHING will be done.


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