Yale, MIT study: 22 million, not 11 million, illegals in US
 

so that means we can double the number of what was assumed to be ms13 gang members in the USA right?

that makes, what, 20,000 MS13 in America....out of 22 million immigrants.

let's just focus on them, seems easier and cheaper.

The more . . . the merrier??

I agree, but we need to take into consideration this new figure when it comes to Offering any form of amnesty. 22 million is a shit ton of people

Btw these professors that did this study are being attacked by liberals. Death threats, the whole 9.

seems high to me. that would mean ~8% of people in the USA are illegals.

I would prefer we focus on the gang illegals, solve that, and reassess our immigration sitch. you get a lot of migrant workers in your area doing the dirty work for crabbers and fisherman, as i understand it, their businesses rely 100% on that labor and would not be around otherwise. a lot of businesses like that here in Cali too. picking artichokes in the sun.

Contrary to what you may believe, democrats do not support illegal immigration or open borders.

Democrats do generally agree, however, that people seeking asylum from dangerous or untenable situations should be given refuge in the united states, and that people here illegally should be considered for citizenship. The U.S. controls 93 trillion dollars of the world's 280 trillion - roughly 1/3 of the world's wealth, which supports less than 5% of the world's population.

Given that - why should we not seriously consider giving legal asylum to people fleeing war and outright poverty? Imagine, for a moment, that you were born in Nicaragua, a country now devastated in large part BECAUSE of American intervention. You can't feed your family, and you live in constant fear of criminal gangs. Wouldn't you cross any border necessary to make sure the people you care about could survive?

Maybe you're worried about the impact on American jobs. When immigrants come here illegally, employers pay them under the table - often less than what's required by law. This has the potential to impact U.S. jobs. The correct way to combat this is allow for them to become legal, requiring employers to pay competitive rates to protect competition with U.S. workers.

Additionally, crime is highly correlated with poverty. It's generally something people turn to when they have few options left. Allowing immigrants to earn a living wage in the U.S. will cut down on crime by giving criminals good legal alternatives.

as long as there is $$$$ in the narcotics market there will be gangs...wave a magic wand and take out all the "illegal humans" and the "legal" ones will gang up, go to jail, tattoo up and get out even meaner...if you are hoping for a "happily ever after" it is very very amusing :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"up here in Boston"


Now YOU make sense to me.

8% of the population being illegal is unbelievable or believable, depending on where you live. In and around big cities, it is very believable.

The mexican portion of those illegals have destroyed many suburban areas over the past 10-15 years as their populations have pushed Americans out. They muck everything up bigtime.

Anchor baby you should show some respect and aspire to be more American.

Racist nitwit, ive only ever lived in around big cities, including Los Angeles. When I want your racist views I'll Google Alex Jones. Put me on ignore

Another alt right neo nazi thread full of lies.
All that inbreeding is producing the most retarded generation of alt right supporters

Another lunatic reminding Democrats to #walkaway from the hateful, race baiting Party of Hate and Vitriol

So let's see if I understand this correctly. If a University does a study about illegal immigration to the United States, you accept it as gospel but when a University does a study about deaths in Puerto Rico it's got to be wrong and politically motivated?

LOL.

I disagree with you.

Of course I want everyone here illegally to be arrested and be departed. Anyone willing to come here illegally and break our laws while doing so is not the kind of person we should even consider to become a US Citizen.

The part I disagree with you about is giving legal asylum to people fleeing war and poverty. That's just impossible. Based on that criteria, everyone from Nicaragua has the legal right to legal asylum in the United States. We cannot allow tens of millions of people from Nicaragua to come to the United States.

Nicaragua has a total population of a little over 6 million. We could probably accept the bottom 30% who are in the very worst situations. I don't think the U.S. should automatically accept every applicant for asylum, but I think they should all be considered. There's a lot more we could do.

We do have 30% of the worlds wealth and 4.28% of it's population, so more than any other country in the world we're in a position to help people who don't have enough to survive. At a certain point though, to access that wealth, it would have to come out of the hands of private owners.

but according to richard, no one should live in hurricane zones or natural disaster areas.

where the fuck is everyone going to live richard?

Someone should make a blog of all rochard's dumb ass posts and threads. God knows there's enuff content :1orglaugh

LOL. Nevada. HUGE amount of space out there.

There is another hurricane coming for Florida Wednesday. My cousin might get lucky this time. She lives in Bonita Springs. We'll see.

Yes, let's setup some internment camps in the desert of Nevada and force people to relocate there.

Later tonight when I have time I'll make a blog post about your thread here..... LOL.

You are a constant source of bullshit for my bullshit blog.

Richard, you know there is no water in Nevada right? It's hard enough keeping Las Vegas with fresh water and you want to force relocate millions to the Nevada desert.

Richard.

Are you going to say the researchers at Yale and MIT are conservative rightwing Trump supporters making up bullshit and somehow got this peer reviewed study published?

Fake news is NOT a peer reviewed published studies from IVY league colleges you fucking dildo :1orglaugh

Poor victim ......

They're big boys i'm sure they'll survive...you snowflakes threatening to kill them for insulting most of your voter base now might not lol

the only thing, as usual , is that no where in that article there is mention of any threats of any kind ...

Probably another Trumplie ..... :disgust

I was born in South Jersey asshole...and I'm white. I also served in the US Military for my country during a war.

Have you, Mr. Patriot?

Your idiot Governor is already driving people from your state here. I'm loving what it's doing to my home's value though. Please vote some more idiots into office there to drive citizens this way.

If you control for RACE, America's "native" population is SHRINKING.

There are 3 options:

Mass Automation / Machine Learning / AI (possibly SKYNET lol)

IMMIGRATION (controlled vs uncontrolled, you decide)

Incentivize increasing the birth rate (subsidized child care / extra cash for larger families with education bonuses etc)

seen on milk carton: missing Onehunglo .....


probably spreading a new llie ...

Settle down clit-chopper, i saw reports yesterday of death threats and people calling for them to get fired. You act like this is out of character for you precious snowflakes.