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AmeliaG 11-01-2003 04:03 AM

Snapshot camera recommendations (PICS)
 
So I shoot with studio lights and big ol' cameras for actual content for my sites and magazines, but I've been kind of wanting to have more snapshots of my adventures. Tried borrowing a few different cameras from friends and totally liked taking pix, but haven't found a snapshot camera I definitely like yet.

I want something with a decent number of megapixels.

I want something as small and lightweight as possible.

I want something where I can select the settings at the beginning of the night and then point and shoot and have it be pretty automatic.

Good in lowlight situations would be a plus.

I don't care how much it costs.

These examples were shot with different cameras, but basically, I want it for silly pix like these with around this level of picture quality:

http://www.ameliag.com/journal2/pray...ray4rock70.jpg

http://www.ameliag.com/journal/barsi...42003_3508.jpg


So what should I get?

twistyneck 11-01-2003 04:09 AM

What's the deal with the red and black hair?

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
What's the deal with the red and black hair?

She is Blue Blood's newest contract girl and one of my favorite people on the planet and the hair matches her shirt in this picture. She is allowed to change the color though and often does. She is really talented with stuff like that.

twistyneck 11-01-2003 04:15 AM

You missed the point entirely. I guess I'm just not hip to what you kids are up to nowadays.

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
You missed the point entirely. I guess I'm just not hip to what you kids are up to nowadays.

:1orglaugh

How old are you?

What kinds of digital snapshot cameras do you like?

Digipimp 11-01-2003 04:26 AM

Probably the best small compact cameras with great quality are Canon something around 3 megapixels these days. Maybe one of the Digital Elph lines.

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
Probably the best small compact cameras with great quality are Canon something around 3 megapixels these days. Maybe one of the Digital Elph lines.

I tried one camera in the Elph line because most of my film cameras are Canon, but that one at least was kinda big. Any thoughts on specific itsy bitsy models from Canon?

Digipimp 11-01-2003 04:29 AM

Yeah it's a Canon Digital Elph S230 great little camera.

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
Yeah it's a Canon Digital Elph S230 great little camera.

http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/...s/prod_img.jpg


Hmm, that one looks promising. I think that might be what Lange had at the Summit. If he would just get around to emailing me some pix, I would have a better idea of picture quality. (hint, hint)

Any idea what the dimensions on that are? Canon's site says smallest digital camera as of Aug 2002 which sounds like maybe it is not so small.

Digipimp 11-01-2003 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG



http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/...s/prod_img.jpg


Hmm, that one looks promising. I think that might be what Lange had at the Summit. If he would just get around to emailing me some pix, I would have a better idea of picture quality. (hint, hint)

Any idea what the dimensions on that are? Canon's site says smallest digital camera as of Aug 2002 which sounds like maybe it is not so small.

Well you can get smaller sure but you won't keep Canon quality. Trust me on this one anyone that knows digital cameras knows that Canon is quality. Because you'll be able to maintain some ISO setting and various other options for all conditions. Basically it fits in the palm of your hand.

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


Well you can get smaller sure but you won't keep Canon quality. Trust me on this one anyone that knows digital cameras knows that Canon is quality. Because you'll be able to maintain some ISO setting and various other options for all conditions. Basically it fits in the palm of your hand.


Assuming I don't go out again now and make my cold worse, maybe I will go look at cameras in person tomorrow. Was kinda hoping to just order one online tonight, but I guess it wouldn't kill me to leave the house in the daytime.

BrentD 11-01-2003 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG
So I shoot with studio lights and big ol' cameras for actual content for my sites and magazines, but I've been kind of wanting to have more snapshots of my adventures. Tried borrowing a few different cameras from friends and totally liked taking pix, but haven't found a snapshot camera I definitely like yet.

I want something with a decent number of megapixels.

I want something as small and lightweight as possible.

I want something where I can select the settings at the beginning of the night and then point and shoot and have it be pretty automatic.

Good in lowlight situations would be a plus.

I don't care how much it costs.

These examples were shot with different cameras, but basically, I want it for silly pix like these with around this level of picture quality:

http://www.ameliag.com/journal2/pray...ray4rock70.jpg

http://www.ameliag.com/journal/barsi...42003_3508.jpg


So what should I get?


For an around the town camera get a Canon Powershot G3, they are very nice with 4.1MP and have a nice quality image. The body of the camera kinda small but the price may get you, I beleive they run $599 to $750, but well worth it for a nice quality camera, we had the Powershot G2 and it was very nice.

Digipimp 11-01-2003 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG



Assuming I don't go out again now and make my cold worse, maybe I will go look at cameras in person tomorrow. Was kinda hoping to just order one online tonight, but I guess it wouldn't kill me to leave the house in the daytime.

You could trust me and order that one but if you want to go look that's probably not a bad idea, just beware of getting salesman who knows less about it than I do to bullshit you into something else.

Hope you're feeling better soon though. :)

BrentD 11-01-2003 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
What's the deal with the red and black hair?

It's called a trend, you know like the old foggies had back in the 70's with teh bell bottom pants and peace love and smoke one stuff?

This is today's trend which is considered to be gothic/alternative/industrial style dress and such.

Digipimp 11-01-2003 05:18 AM

A Powershot G3 is not small at all when you're looking for something to stick in your pocket or purse like Amelia is looking for but it's a great camera for sure.

BrentD 11-01-2003 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG



Assuming I don't go out again now and make my cold worse, maybe I will go look at cameras in person tomorrow. Was kinda hoping to just order one online tonight, but I guess it wouldn't kill me to leave the house in the daytime.


I order our camera equipment from http://www.canogacamera.com, they are great people and will help you in anyway you need.

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD



For an around the town camera get a Canon Powershot G3, they are very nice with 4.1MP and have a nice quality image. The body of the camera kinda small but the price may get you, I beleive they run $599 to $750, but well worth it for a nice quality camera, we had the Powershot G2 and it was very nice.


http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/...s/prod_img.jpg

Image quality control and specs look nice, but it looks sorta big. I don't care at all how much it costs. I don't buy myself that many treats and I've been a hard little worker this fall.

I think I might want a camera that doesn't exist yet. Ya know, image quality like a digital back for a Hassie in the shape of a hidden cam in a ballpoint pen.

No more James Bond for me.

Any other suggestions, folks?

BrentD 11-01-2003 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
A Powershot G3 is not small at all when you're looking for something to stick in your pocket or purse like Amelia is looking for but it's a great camera for sure.

http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/...s/prod_img.jpg


About the same size as the one you posted I beleive, never handled the one you posted but I know this one is small to me compared to my Canon EOS D60 and 10D, hahaha

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

BrentD 11-01-2003 05:26 AM

http://www.canogacamera.com/caminv_p...D10_Silver.jpg


Powershot SD10, looks nice and thin and small:)

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD



http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/...s/prod_img.jpg


About the same size as the one you posted I beleive, never handled the one you posted but I know this one is small to me compared to my Canon EOS D60 and 10D, hahaha

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Totally, compared to studio equipment, it is all super petite, but I just want something easy to take to nightclubs and such and not that difficult to slip in and out of my purse.

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


You could trust me and order that one but if you want to go look that's probably not a bad idea, just beware of getting salesman who knows less about it than I do to bullshit you into something else.

Hope you're feeling better soon though. :)


Thanks. I hate being sick. I feel like I should just be able to push myself and mind-over-matter it, but it doesn't always work.

I know what you mean about salesmen who know dickall. A lot of times I like to see the equipment, but, at least in LA, all photo store personnel have to prattle on about how important they are and what big jobs they have done. Even though they are working at the photo store. The last time I was buying a digital camera, the salesman would not shut up about his most recent shoot and after he talked about stuff unrelated to the specs I needed and kept trying to sell me cheap cameras which didn't meet my requirements at all, I finally just exploded and was like I'm buying this for a job for Playboy so is there someone here who can sell me a more expensive camera please. Totally stupid too because they work on commission. Guy was pissed when I really did buy it from another rep.

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD
http://www.canogacamera.com/caminv_p...D10_Silver.jpg


Powershot SD10, looks nice and thin and small:)


Somehow that one looks very sex toy like and that appeals to me.

webseth 11-01-2003 05:56 AM

<a href=http://www.webseth.com/gallery/barcelona>http://www.webseth.com/albums/barcelona/IMG_1811.jpg </a>

all my <a href=http://www.webseth.com/gallery/barcelona>barcelona</a> pics were taken with an s230 , including my entire <a href=http://live.webseth.com/seth_asf/barcelona.asx>vacation video</a> from that trip. i even use it for porn video, just have to do it in 2 minute scenes :)

- Seth

avion 11-01-2003 06:36 AM

AmeliaG,

what you need is one of the Casio EXILIM line cameras! the best camera around for snapshots - go for S3 or Z4 models.

3.2 - 4M resolution
really, really lightweight - S3 is just 70g
good on lowlight too
Z4 has pretty nice zoom feature as well...

check'em out here:

http://www.exilim.com

hope this helps :)

thank you
Avion

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by avion
AmeliaG,

what you need is one of the Casio EXILIM line cameras! the best camera around for snapshots - go for S3 or Z4 models.

3.2 - 4M resolution
really, really lightweight - S3 is just 70g
good on lowlight too
Z4 has pretty nice zoom feature as well...

check'em out here:

http://www.exilim.com

hope this helps :)

thank you
Avion

This looks good for a semi-shaded shot:

http://exilim.casio.com/photos/images/s2_photo_06.jpg

Any idea where there might be some lowlight examples online?
The size of that thing rules!

Digipimp 11-01-2003 07:05 AM

I'll say it a million times you can't beat the Canon digital cams unless maybe you get a high end Olympus.

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG


This looks good for a semi-shaded shot:

http://exilim.casio.com/photos/images/s2_photo_06.jpg

Any idea where there might be some lowlight examples online?
The size of that thing rules!


I guess this is the higher end one in the series:

http://exilim.casio.com/photos/images/z3_photo_05.jpg

Digipimp 11-01-2003 07:12 AM

Amelia when it comes to light situations the most important feature on a digital camera as I mentioned earlier is the ISO setting feature. Whether it's user selectable and what range you have to choose from. For example the Casio Z3 has an ISO range from 50 to 200 which is average the Canon has a user selectable range from 50 to 400 which allows of much better use in many different lighting situations low light to extremely bright as well as built in spot metering.

:winkwink:

Oh yeah the Canon is 3mm thicker which is nothing and about 60grams heavier which is nothing as well.

avion 11-01-2003 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG



I guess this is the higher end one in the series:

http://exilim.casio.com/photos/images/z3_photo_05.jpg

well, there's a better one that just came out - Z4 I think...
and you are right - the size is simply awesome, the S3 is lighter even than my cellphone :) and I consider it light too :)

Also the light sensitivity of S3 goes up to 640 ISO units, more than most cameras around ( the industry standard is around 400 I think )

not sure where you can find lowlight pics though...I guess I can upload some later today ( if I have some time left to dig'em out...we are leaving to Prague tomorrow and it is really hectic around ). But it is pretty good in lowlight conditions as I said before...

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by avion


well, there's a better one that just came out - Z4 I think...
and you are right - the size is simply awesome, the S3 is lighter even than my cellphone :) and I consider it light too :)

Also the light sensitivity of S3 goes up to 640 ISO units, more than most cameras around ( the industry standard is around 400 I think )

not sure where you can find lowlight pics though...I guess I can upload some later today ( if I have some time left to dig'em out...we are leaving to Prague tomorrow and it is really hectic around ). But it is pretty good in lowlight conditions as I said before...


If you do get a chance to post a couple sample lowlight pix, that would be awesome!

Digipimp 11-01-2003 07:19 AM

Amelia this is the best digital camera review site that exists so check it out. He has several samples pics at different resolutions and lighting as well. The Z4 ISO goes up to 400 actually. The S3 looks interesting, I just hate SD memory when compact flash is the standard.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/

LadyMischief 11-01-2003 07:22 AM

Canon EOS 300D Rebel digital camera..

Normally I'm not a Canon fan, but this little puppy is sweet as hell..

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EDR/EDRA.HTM
There's a good link there.. Best of luck!

Digipimp 11-01-2003 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
Canon EOS 300D Rebel digital camera..

Normally I'm not a Canon fan, but this little puppy is sweet as hell..

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EDR/EDRA.HTM
There's a good link there.. Best of luck!

Yeah that's one of the best digital cameras out it was just introduced and it's sweet as hell, it's just not a compact camera. That rebel rocks though!

Oh yeah 3000!

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
Canon EOS 300D Rebel digital camera..

Normally I'm not a Canon fan, but this little puppy is sweet as hell..

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EDR/EDRA.HTM
There's a good link there.. Best of luck!


Looks like overkill on the specs which I always favor, but it looks pretty big. Not really a purse cam I think. Although it is always hard to really gauge size from pix.

Butrflied 11-01-2003 08:20 AM

I have a canon s330 and its great. I bring it around in my purse everywhere.. My roommate got a Nikon Cool Pix 3100 .. its super tiny and takes great shots .. although I havent had a chance to play with it much. Good luck!

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 11:21 AM

Thanks so so much for all the helpful input everyone! I'm going to go look at some cameras in person in a couple hours and tonight my bro is going to send me examples of what is available in Japan now. Think I will buy the camera Monday. I'm feeling too under-the-weather to have any adventures worth documenting right now anyway.

rhon23 11-01-2003 11:33 AM

Is the pic of the first girl Megan?

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by rhon23
Is the pic of the first girl Megan?

Hmm, no sig. Who are you a "lackie" for?

Sifu 11-01-2003 11:44 AM

Sony PocketCams are great

flashfreak 11-01-2003 11:48 AM

I think you need a canon powershoot s50 (the one I have too of course :) )
5MP and way smaller than g2,g3. it has the same processor (dgic) but it has 5MP instead of 4.

just got back from a trip, I'll post some pics in few mins.

flashfreak 11-01-2003 11:52 AM

btw: forget about s230, a friend of mine bought one few days ago.
pics with natural light are good but all indoor pics look blurry...

rhon23 11-01-2003 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG



Hmm, no sig. Who are you a "lackie" for?

A decent size company out of LA

flashfreak 11-01-2003 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
Amelia this is the best digital camera review site that exists so check it out. He has several samples pics at different resolutions and lighting as well. The Z4 ISO goes up to 400 actually. The S3 looks interesting, I just hate SD memory when compact flash is the standard.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/

actually Z4 has up ISO 200. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/spec...casio_exz4.asp

and best cam review site is dpreview

flashfreak 11-01-2003 12:32 PM

http://wedesignxxx.com/temp/trip/1.jpg

http://wedesignxxx.com/temp/trip/2.jpg

http://wedesignxxx.com/temp/trip/3.jpg

http://wedesignxxx.com/temp/trip/4.jpg

KraZ 11-01-2003 12:51 PM

SONY Cybershot P10 rules in terms of 5 Megapixels that fit in your pocket. It's amazing in low light - focuses with IR.

avion 11-01-2003 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak

actually Z4 has up ISO 200. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/spec...casio_exz4.asp

and best cam review site is dpreview


dpreview is really a good site, but Z4 light sensitivity goes up to ISO 400:
http://exilim.casio.com/z4uspec.htm

boneprone 11-01-2003 01:23 PM

WHere where these taken?
I must go there.

Beautiful.

AmeliaG 11-01-2003 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone


WHere where these taken?
I must go there.

Beautiful.


Looks Eastern European

DrewKole 11-01-2003 05:43 PM

I'd say G3... great for a snapshot camera, but... ya never know when you'll wanna take some pro pics with it... and it'll do that too. =)

I'm probably gonna end up getting a new rebel EOS... or D100, but leaning toward the canon

flashfreak 11-02-2003 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone


WHere where these taken?
I must go there.

Beautiful.

they're all from Romania, the country of castles
1st pic: Mateias mausoleum
2nd : view from Rasnov old city part (it's under restauration right now)
3rd: Black Church Brasov
4th : Rasnov old city


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