Seen Acacia's stock price today?
 

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=ACTG

Down 5.81% today alone :Graucho

I knew all my fake posts about taking them to court would do some damge....

Since I posted, it's now down 8.89% :Graucho

If you refresh the page they drop....

It's dropped about 40% in the past month, 15% in the past week alone :Graucho

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Thier falling a percent ever minute! :Graucho Atleast that's what I would like to see!

jDoG

the word is getting out and the stock is falling.

i've heard they have 60 new licensees from a mailing of 10,000 letters. i suspect that they might have 300 licensees by December 1.

acacia investors are beginning to UNDERSTAND that 97% of defendants will be FIGHTING these bogus patent claims.

defendants like Stanford University and Harvard Law School.


and something interesting about Judge Ware in California.


for those of you that think acacia has an easy slam-dunk with this judge think again.


"(Ware) also nixed Acacia's threatened motions for preliminary injunction," the message continued. "While Acacia has been threatening these motions for months as part of its effort to scare companies into paying up, it has not filed and has admitted that it does not have enough information to make such a motion. Reasoning that he would need to fully understand the case and the applicable defenses before he could even consider such extraordinary relief, (Ware) indicated that he would not even permit such a motion until after the conclusion of claim construction."

Ware also reportedly asked Acacia attorneys if "all the parties it planned to sue were before the court," the message said. "The attorneys responded that they were not and that they had placed additional companies on notice. When Acacia told (Ware) that they had sent out thousands of cease and desist letters, (Ware) seemed very surprised."


acacia's clumsy tactic of sending thousands of letters out to webmasters, many of whom do not even have video will backfire and be seen as what it is---an extortion attempt.


IMO acacia will NOT receive preliminary injunctions against ANY website business before April 2004 regardless of the merit of the acacia case.


which means IF you are sued RESPOND TO THE LAWSUIT.

see them in court.

Plummetting

not that I like them, but... you might wanna check out their 6m "value"

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=ACTG&t=6m

nice trend - just goes to show that list spamming doesnt work.

Now if we could sort out this teleteria mess.. we'd all be happy campers

true,

but the turnabout (down) really started happening when acacia made the insane move of noticing colleges and universities---who are now BANDING TOGETHER and refusing to license.


in fact, the turndown started just about the time Stanford University got noticed.

Stanford University is in Palo Alto, California, in the world-famous silicon valley. More engineers from Stanford built and designed the internet and information technology than any other place.

word on the street is that Stanford and other large colleges and Universities WILL NOT BE SETTLING with acacia.

there's a reason Stanford will not settle with acacia.

there's a reason Harvard Law School will not settle with acacia.

when the best and the brightest do not settle with acacia it means something.

listen to Berman speak on the internet radio broadcast. he is not a techie, he is a lawyer salesman.

he couldn't even explain adequately what the acacia patents cover, lots of double talk about double dipping, etc.

these acacia guys are clumsy, and the geeks will eat them for lunch.

watch it happen.

I don't doubt this, not even for a second

It's now in the discovery stage, I wonder if we will find out who signed and about their search for Prior Art?

I think I found a guy that signed and does not have the ballst to say so. 12clicks Just says he let his lawyers make the decision. Like if he did not he would be saying that.

Very interesting thread over on his board Tuna Fish Bitch.

:1orglaugh

fuck them, I hope they burn in hell

Well said. Fuck acacia & fuck berman...:ak47:

It's a temp phase. It will go back up. Damn fuckers.

:glugglug bump

getting more & more interesting...

Sell quick!!

no stupid fuck :321GFY i have bought the shares for
5.90 per share so GFY

WHY did you fucking buy shares?

:321GFY

i think a lot of peps around here have bought them.
damn, i should have sold them at 8.00 :321GFY

I hate you all that did

thanks for hating :thumbsup

It actually traded at a high of $8.58 on October 17th

so you bought too?:(

well I don'T HATE you guys, I just think it's stupid to give our money to a company fighting AGAINST us. it's a business decision that you made, I think it's stupid, but lots of people think I'm stupid too so who gives a fuck LMAO!

no

down trend :Graucho

I just finished reading the thread over at TFB and I was amazed at how Paul and Brandon were treated, doesn't look like 12clicks is a fan of their stance.

I was also suprised that 12clicks kept dodging the question over whether he had signed with acacia or not. I know everyone has their reasons for signing/not signing but the least you can do is be upfront about whether you did or did not.

As I said over on the tunafishbitch board, it is no one's business if someone donated or not. I personally have disclosed that I have donated to the IMPA the second I noticed that their paypal link was up, but I can respect the right of others who wish to keep their donating practices private.


I am, however, happy to read the posts here by Latinasojourn. Here's hoping this is the beginning of a long down-turn for Acacia, hopefully it is soon to be the last we'll see of their extortion tactics. But I hazard a guess that they aren't going to go away without a long fight, there is still much to do.

More webmasters need to donate!

i had them on the etrade BUY confirmation page and decided against it last week.... if its any consolation im not bragging, the other stock i bought is down 5% since then anyhow heh...

That's something I like to hear when I wake up :)

I bought 10k shares at 1.58 way before the virus spread, and sold all 10k for 7 and change. Hate me all you want, but it's my cash for my defense fund should it arise. Also used some of the cash to buy a new Lincoln Towncar. Anyone buying now is fucked. Take that to the bank. I bought purely on speculation that it may hold up. I was right and wrong in the same sense. I was right in makin a ton of cash and wrong that it wil hold up, cause it wont:321GFY

My comment wasn't about donating to IMPA or FTP, it was about whether people had actually signed a deal with Acacia or not. If you want to keep your donations private thats fine, but I think the public should know who has signed deals with Acacia and who hasn't.

Fair enough. You need to realize though.... on that thread on 12click's board, some allegations have been made, most of which are a bit shall we say 'out of line'? 12clicks voiced his opinion that Brandon's fund isn't the way to go for those wanting to "fight the patent" right now. He doesn't believe that Brandon's intentions are 100% professional and above board, and since it is his own board I suppose he has a right to voice his opinions good or bad.

Paul Markham on the other hand, has reacted by basically accusing 12clicks of signing with Acacia.... something of which there is no basis in fact whatsoever I might add. It is certainly the right of anyone to ASK if a sponsor has signed with Acacia. However, no sponsor is compelled to answer that question, to you or anyone. If you don't get an answer, do you go off and assume the worst? Sorry, some people in ANY industry will tell you that what their company chooses to do or not do is, to put it bluntly.... none of your fucking business. Period.

Having said all that, I will point out right here and now that for myself, I must admit that my level of respect will be greatly reduced towards those sponsors and companies that do cave in and sign. I don't like it, but if we're being honest here..... I haveto say that that is true in my case, especially those sponsors and companies that have disclosed private information regarding their affiliates. When it all comes out, and in the end it will.... there will be some companies no doubt that find their loyal webmasters leaving their sorry excuse for a company in droves.

Sure Stanford was one of the leaders in Computer Innovations

Maybe you forgot to read the title of his thread... calling me a 'jackass'. And of course his other posts on GFY calling me an 'assclown', etc. and basically trying at every opportunity to discredit me. Public scrutiny is fine, i always respond with the truth.

He deleted all my posts so I couldn't defend myself...real nice.. .,. in every thread that he has popped into make his comments, about my credibility, my intentions.. i have held my ground. His first posting against me was four months ago, calling me the "board hero of the month"...guess what....it's four months later, and i still pound away at the boards, helping webmasters and providing information....and i STILL have received no compe\nsation from anyone... it's my own money and time that I have spent.

12clicks doesn't support the IMPA..and has clearly made the business decision to sign.. which is his choice.. but he decided to try and "expose" me from the beginning....and so in usual typical hypocritical fashion for those that operate with arrogance, Paul Markam allowed him to expose himself.

Looks great that he runs the IMPA banner on the site.. but that's because of people like you and Chowadog support IMPA.

If you don't believe my approach is the way, that's fine.. but being libel and name calling completely reduces his own integrity.......... if you also don't think IMPA is the way either.... makes you wonder who side one is on.

Notice how i don't run the pledge drive? Lots of webmasters supported my idea, but not enough.... so i took it down.

When the next patent case comes through, people like 12clicks and hustler will just settle...leaving the rest of the webmasters to fend for themselves.

I hope the webmasters rally behind IMPA...so far they haven't, because apathy doesn't protect you.... it doesn't care :Graucho



Fight the Libel!

And I think I found a moron.:1orglaugh

No, actually I wouldn't allow brandon to spam. The other moron is just fun to dick with.

Sorry, I don't discuss my business decisions with halfwits just because said halfwit demands it.
That really pisses off halfwits.:1orglaugh

any affiliates of 12clicks want to ask if he has signed to "protect" them from that part of infringement?

Paul started out by asking a question if he had signed or not since 12clicks has been hypocritical in his words and he wanted to see his actions.

Through their exchanges, 12clicks admits he doesn't support IMPA (i have the pages/text saved of that since i know he deletes posts) and finally answered Paul to say that he let his lawyers handle things... so with words, and not answering the question directly, is where the deducement came in.


Why don't you ask him if he settled. You can tell us Paul was wrong.

I do agress that Paul's tactic was a bit in-your-face...but i guess you have to fight fire with fire.


I have always kept a professional disposition...and when i was alerted to his thread titled "I hope none of you guys are supporting that jackass "FightThisPatent"" ...... i answered professionally and do the point as well (i save those responses knowing that they might get deleted/edited as well..and they did).

You seem like you are a straight shooter, and given a 1-on-1 conversation with me, you will see that I am all that i have said and more (honest, straight shooter, and with integrity). 12clicks postings on his board, this board, and what came out with his exchanges with Paul should cast doubt on him...not me.. i have atleast, always been open and honest.


Fight the Hidden Agendas!

translation = can't hold himself up in a debate...is a control freak.




Fight the Response!

GFY deletes posts too man

amp deleted the thread i wasted him on last week

and with your truthful replies, lost your support.

unlike GFY, I'm not looking at a post count over there. I don't allow spamming ever. you brought nothing to the table except to cut and past the same bullshit you filled thread after thread after thread with over here.
Not needed.
yes, you've held your ground and your support hasd grown. that's why you took your pledge nonsense down.

And now you want compensation for being a board hero. typical.
you're right, its been 4 months. what have you done?

well lets see, you've done nothing, you've backed down from your pledge drive, you're on your way to your next job.
I'm sure I've had it all wrong from the beginning.:1orglaugh
All Paul has done is exposed my arrogance and contempt I hold for the stupid (read: him)
Did he really expose that? I pretty much trot that out every day.

Yes, if I didn't put up the banner CD and Choda would leave. :1orglaugh

If I've libeled you, sue me or is this just more of you telling the truth and being "up front"?

if IMPA is telling webmasters to support you......makes you wonder whos side they're on. how does pissing money down a hole help fight acacia?

many multiples of your number didn't support your idea.

And the next unemployed webmaster will try to profit from fighting them.

I pay lawyers to protect me, so do all other businesses.


Fight the Dopey! :thumbsup

is this going to be another one of your threads filled with meaningless bullshit?
shouldn't you be filling out a job application somewhere?:1orglaugh

who gives a fuck if u bought shares..they could use your cash to buy a bottle of wine at one of their meetings..its the big boys that move these cheapies, undisclosed block trades that make your house look like a cardboard box.

translation = doesn't support IMPA


note...IMPA was around long before i started the idea of Fight the Patent Foundation

and the reason that IMPA supports my efforts, is because i have made a difference in finding prior art.... and i have 2 other patent attorneys from mainstream have said the same.

So yes, they are on my side, as I am on theirs.

So you must be thinking that webmasters who donate to IMPA are pissing away their money.


Fight the Ignorance!

nope, it's yours.



:Graucho :1orglaugh


Fight the Meaningless Threads!

12 clicks why all the personal attacks? I've seen it as well , you started attacking FTP quite some time ago.. Why? if you don't agree with his fight and you support Acacia then good for you but don't try to bash people that are trying to fight them, and help others.

Just because you may have caved in and signed up if you did, don't bash people that are trying to fight . You can allways question someone, but you have not , all you have done tried to Bash FPA every chance you get. This dose nothing but make yourself look like a tool..

Now go ahead and bash me for being a stupid newbie...