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fedfest 05-25-2005 06:12 PM

Won't Google have a 2257 problem ?
 
Just imagine them having Id's for all images in the image search *lol*

So eigther they would have to shut down the image search, at least for any adult related keywords, or hosting images that are not yours (google.. Tgp's.. affiliates..etc.) should be okay.. right ?

crockett 05-25-2005 06:20 PM

the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

fusionx 05-25-2005 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

Doesn't have to be on their server - they are still publishing the image.

GatorB 05-25-2005 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

fedfest 05-25-2005 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

It's still displayed on their site though, can't see it should make a difference..

fusionx 05-25-2005 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

Can you point to a source that shows that google got an exemption?

MandyBlake 05-25-2005 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

must be nice :)

darnit 05-25-2005 06:43 PM

They cannot "reasonably" control the content.

thonglife 05-25-2005 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

http://www.moviesoundscentral.com/sounds/power.wav

fedfest 05-25-2005 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darnit
They cannot "reasonably" control the content.

Well I'm about to get my 3'rd 250GB disc for content and all that content can be pretty damn hard to "reasonably" control too, think that will be a vallid excuse :1orglaugh

Would be pretty easy for them to control by simply not showing images for any adult related search terms.. Though no one would probably use the image search anymore then.

nico-t 05-25-2005 06:57 PM

no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?

fusionx 05-25-2005 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?

http://images.google.com/images?q=pu...en&sa=N&tab=wi

fedfest 05-25-2005 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?

Think you just got to turn "safe surf" off :thumbsup

nico-t 05-25-2005 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedfest
Think you just got to turn "safe surf" off :thumbsup

where the fuck is safe surf? i cant go to google.com, it redirects to .nl. That direct link worked, i got porn pics, but here are my reults of pussy:
http://images.google.nl/images?q=pus...=Google+zoeken
:Oh crap

nico-t 05-25-2005 07:05 PM

jesus christ the .nl got everything the same as the .com BUT a safe search box lol....

Fatum 05-25-2005 07:10 PM

hmmm..pussy :pimp

fedfest 05-25-2005 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
jesus christ the .nl got everything the same as the .com BUT a safe search box lol....

Just the other way around for me, probably has to do with the language settings.

Btw. what does "Bedoelde u:" mean ? would that posibly be the one to allow adult material ?

fedfest 05-25-2005 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedfest
Just the other way around for me, probably has to do with the language settings.

Btw. what does "Bedoelde u:" mean ? would that posibly be the one to allow adult material ?

Never mind.. think that was just the spell check *lol*

Fatum 05-25-2005 07:18 PM

Enter google and click "Google.com in English" and than "preferences"
here you will see SafeSearch Filtering

fireorange 05-25-2005 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

The porn companies will take them to court.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

No No No No No No.

Google Images does not hotlink, they are thumbnails of the original picture hosted on GOOG's servers. Like a Thumb TGP.

SERP: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=cumshot&sa=N&tab=wi

Thumb1: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...ot-closeup.jpg
Thumb2: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...om/Cumshot.jpg

fusionx 05-25-2005 07:22 PM

What's worse is google's display of cached pages.. they could kill the image search for adult.. but if they kill caching for adult pages, bye bye google listings. There's no way they'll list all the results without caching.

Steen2 05-25-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

Wrong.
Quote:

Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.
Bullshit (in most cases).

GatorB 05-25-2005 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steen2
Bullshit (in most cases).

Worked for Google

fusionx 05-25-2005 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Worked for Google

Do you have a source for that? A news article or anything?

I haven't seen anything that said google got an exemption from 2257.

MegaBondage 05-25-2005 07:27 PM

I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?

GatorB 05-25-2005 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage
I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?

internet porn is dead. leave now.

GatorB 05-25-2005 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx
Do you have a source for that? A news article or anything?

I haven't seen anything that said google got an exemption from 2257.

At least 2 people posted WHY google is exempt already. I can 100% guarantee you that on June 23rd you will NOT see a 2257 link on google images.

TheSenator 05-25-2005 07:30 PM

I don't think http://www.google.com/ has an exemption.

MegaBondage 05-25-2005 07:30 PM

Heh I found after 5 uyears in adult online that mainstream REALLY DOES make more money, not just one product, but get many different products.

They sell very quickly.

Kevsh 05-25-2005 07:32 PM

Be like Google, fake an "image search" script to let users find images on "other sites". You are all smart people, you'll figure out how to do it.

:winkwink:

datatank 05-25-2005 07:32 PM

Altavista runs a thumbs TGP too

http://www.altavista.com/image/resul...ult%2Ffetishes
You may have to turn off the family filter and agree with the term but its a very nice tgp and they use Categories and have sponsor listings.

To bad they dont list FHG yet

Doctor Dre 05-25-2005 07:34 PM

With all the data google can possibly get from surfers, do you really think the us GOV wnat to go to war with google ? they want them on their side

pstation 05-25-2005 07:34 PM

ok die now

GatorB 05-25-2005 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator
I don't think http://www.google.com/ has an exemption.

So in 29 days google will have 1.7 million 2257 docs for just THIS word?

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...&btnG= Search

darnit 05-25-2005 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx
Do you have a source for that? A news article or anything?

I haven't seen anything that said google got an exemption from 2257.

Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

pretty clear cut

Steen2 05-25-2005 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Worked for Google

It may have, but I would be surprised to hear it.
Quote:

I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?
17% drop is searches? I think they're better off finding another way to deal with regulations or bad adult PR.
Quote:

Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

pretty clear cut
So if I run a usenet search for (adult) images, I should be ok? :)

fusionx 05-25-2005 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darnit
Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

pretty clear cut

Bingo.. thanks for pointing that out.

fedfest 05-25-2005 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darnit
Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

pretty clear cut

That would then be the case for tgp's affiliates and so on aswell, since they are also only distributing the content ?

Basicly that would put us back to only the producers, and the site owners need to hold the Id's..

Taboo 05-26-2005 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darnit
Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

pretty clear cut

thanks for the info. very interesting. :thumbsup

Barefootsies 05-26-2005 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedfest
Just imagine them having Id's for all images in the image search *lol*

So eigther they would have to shut down the image search, at least for any adult related keywords, or hosting images that are not yours (google.. Tgp's.. affiliates..etc.) should be okay.. right ?

Geezus fucking Christ. Worry about your own goddamn backyard drama queen.

:321GFY

nico-t 05-26-2005 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedfest
Never mind.. think that was just the spell check *lol*

yep, "bedoelde u:" = "did you mean:"


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