Won't Google have a 2257 problem ? - GoFuckYourself.com

fedfest · 05-25-2005, 06:12 PM

Just imagine them having Id's for all images in the image search *lol*

So eigther they would have to shut down the image search, at least for any adult related keywords, or hosting images that are not yours (google.. Tgp's.. affiliates..etc.) should be okay.. right ?

crockett · 05-25-2005, 06:20 PM

the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

fusionx · 05-25-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

Doesn't have to be on their server - they are still publishing the image.

GatorB · 05-25-2005, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

fedfest · 05-25-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

It's still displayed on their site though, can't see it should make a difference..

fusionx · 05-25-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

Can you point to a source that shows that google got an exemption?

MandyBlake · 05-25-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

must be nice

darnit · 05-25-2005, 06:43 PM

They cannot "reasonably" control the content.

thonglife · 05-25-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

http://www.moviesoundscentral.com/sounds/power.wav

fedfest · 05-25-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by darnit

They cannot "reasonably" control the content.

Well I'm about to get my 3'rd 250GB disc for content and all that content can be pretty damn hard to "reasonably" control too, think that will be a vallid excuse

Would be pretty easy for them to control by simply not showing images for any adult related search terms.. Though no one would probably use the image search anymore then.

nico-t · 05-25-2005, 06:57 PM

no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?

fusionx · 05-25-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?

http://images.google.com/images?q=pu...en&sa=N&tab=wi

fedfest · 05-25-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?

Think you just got to turn "safe surf" off

nico-t · 05-25-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fedfest

Think you just got to turn "safe surf" off

where the fuck is safe surf? i cant go to google.com, it redirects to .nl. That direct link worked, i got porn pics, but here are my reults of pussy:
http://images.google.nl/images?q=pus...=Google+zoeken

nico-t · 05-25-2005, 07:05 PM

jesus christ the .nl got everything the same as the .com BUT a safe search box lol....

Fatum · 05-25-2005, 07:10 PM

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http://images.google.com/images?q=p...:en&sa=N&tab=wi

hmmm..pussy

fedfest · 05-25-2005, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

jesus christ the .nl got everything the same as the .com BUT a safe search box lol....

Just the other way around for me, probably has to do with the language settings.

Btw. what does "Bedoelde u:" mean ? would that posibly be the one to allow adult material ?

fedfest · 05-25-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fedfest

Just the other way around for me, probably has to do with the language settings.

Btw. what does "Bedoelde u:" mean ? would that posibly be the one to allow adult material ?

Never mind.. think that was just the spell check *lol*

Fatum · 05-25-2005, 07:18 PM

Enter google and click "Google.com in English" and than "preferences"
here you will see SafeSearch Filtering

fireorange · 05-25-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

If that was a way out everyone would do it. Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

The porn companies will take them to court.

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Originally Posted by crockett

the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

No No No No No No.

Google Images does not hotlink, they are thumbnails of the original picture hosted on GOOG's servers. Like a Thumb TGP.

SERP: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=cumshot&sa=N&tab=wi

Thumb1: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...ot-closeup.jpg
Thumb2: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...om/Cumshot.jpg

fusionx · 05-25-2005, 07:22 PM

What's worse is google's display of cached pages.. they could kill the image search for adult.. but if they kill caching for adult pages, bye bye google listings. There's no way they'll list all the results without caching.

Steen2 · 05-25-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

the images are not on their server, it's a resized hot link..

Wrong.

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Google got an exemption by the government. Basically if you're big enough entity you can buy your way out of regualtion.

Bullshit (in most cases).

GatorB · 05-25-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steen2

Bullshit (in most cases).

Worked for Google

fusionx · 05-25-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Worked for Google

Do you have a source for that? A news article or anything?

I haven't seen anything that said google got an exemption from 2257.

MegaBondage · 05-25-2005, 07:27 PM

I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?

GatorB · 05-25-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MegaBondage

I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?

internet porn is dead. leave now.

GatorB · 05-25-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

Do you have a source for that? A news article or anything?

I haven't seen anything that said google got an exemption from 2257.

At least 2 people posted WHY google is exempt already. I can 100% guarantee you that on June 23rd you will NOT see a 2257 link on google images.

TheSenator · 05-25-2005, 07:30 PM

I don't think http://www.google.com/ has an exemption.

MegaBondage · 05-25-2005, 07:30 PM

Heh I found after 5 uyears in adult online that mainstream REALLY DOES make more money, not just one product, but get many different products.

They sell very quickly.

Kevsh · 05-25-2005, 07:32 PM

Be like Google, fake an "image search" script to let users find images on "other sites". You are all smart people, you'll figure out how to do it.

datatank · 05-25-2005, 07:32 PM

Altavista runs a thumbs TGP too

http://www.altavista.com/image/resul...ult%2Ffetishes
You may have to turn off the family filter and agree with the term but its a very nice tgp and they use Categories and have sponsor listings.

To bad they dont list FHG yet

Doctor Dre · 05-25-2005, 07:34 PM

With all the data google can possibly get from surfers, do you really think the us GOV wnat to go to war with google ? they want them on their side

pstation · 05-25-2005, 07:34 PM

ok die now

GatorB · 05-25-2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

I don't think http://www.google.com/ has an exemption.

So in 29 days google will have 1.7 million 2257 docs for just THIS word?

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...&btnG= Search

darnit · 05-25-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

Do you have a source for that? A news article or anything?

I haven't seen anything that said google got an exemption from 2257.

Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

pretty clear cut

Steen2 · 05-25-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Worked for Google

It may have, but I would be surprised to hear it.

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I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?

17% drop is searches? I think they're better off finding another way to deal with regulations or bad adult PR.

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Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

pretty clear cut

So if I run a usenet search for (adult) images, I should be ok?

fusionx · 05-25-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by darnit

Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

pretty clear cut

Bingo.. thanks for pointing that out.

fedfest · 05-25-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by darnit

Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

pretty clear cut

That would then be the case for tgp's affiliates and so on aswell, since they are also only distributing the content ?

Basicly that would put us back to only the producers, and the site owners need to hold the Id's..

Taboo · 05-26-2005, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by darnit

Under definition of (ii) Mere distribution;

(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.

Mere Distributions does NOT equate to secondary producer

pretty clear cut

thanks for the info. very interesting.

Barefootsies · 05-26-2005, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fedfest

Just imagine them having Id's for all images in the image search *lol*

So eigther they would have to shut down the image search, at least for any adult related keywords, or hosting images that are not yours (google.. Tgp's.. affiliates..etc.) should be okay.. right ?

Geezus fucking Christ. Worry about your own goddamn backyard drama queen.

nico-t · 05-26-2005, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fedfest

Never mind.. think that was just the spell check *lol*

yep, "bedoelde u:" = "did you mean:"

05-25-2005, 06:12 PM	#1
fedfest Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,334	Won't Google have a 2257 problem ? Just imagine them having Id's for all images in the image search lol So eigther they would have to shut down the image search, at least for any adult related keywords, or hosting images that are not yours (google.. Tgp's.. affiliates..etc.) should be okay.. right ? __________________ RewardThem Now Paying Up To 70% Revshare ! Top Converting CCbill affiliate program that will keep your members rebilling. No Traffic Leaks, No Popups, No Bullshit.. You get Credited For EVERYTHING !

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darnit Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Teh Interweb Posts: 2,439	They cannot "reasonably" control the content.

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	no more porn images for me in google search since a week or so... i thought they had some parental lock link, but i couldnt find it..... or am i going crazy now?

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	jesus christ the .nl got everything the same as the .com BUT a safe search box lol....

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Fatum Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 404 Posts: 459	Enter google and click "Google.com in English" and than "preferences" here you will see SafeSearch Filtering

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fusionx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Olongapo City, Philippines Posts: 4,618	What's worse is google's display of cached pages.. they could kill the image search for adult.. but if they kill caching for adult pages, bye bye google listings. There's no way they'll list all the results without caching.

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MegaBondage So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Dungeon Posts: 101	I had thought Google wasnt going to spider adult sites anymore, or was that Yahoo?

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Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Be like Google, fake an "image search" script to let users find images on "other sites". You are all smart people, you'll figure out how to do it.

05-25-2005, 07:32 PM	#31
datatank Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,471	Altavista runs a thumbs TGP too http://www.altavista.com/image/resul...ult%2Ffetishes You may have to turn off the family filter and agree with the term but its a very nice tgp and they use Categories and have sponsor listings. To bad they dont list FHG yet