How many companies Bit the dust in 2005
 

Its just about time to pour some for the homies again. :drinkup


Every year programs,companies and people come and go

this one's for ya :drinkup

I think 2005 had fewer starters and fewer failures than the years before. People are starting to realise selling porn is not as easy as they thought.

I can't say how many bit the dust for sure. But I remember for a while there, I got an email every week from another program that just up and folding for good.

Frankly I was surprised that the businesses were in such bad shape that they couldn't be sold even if just to save face.

Matt

I expect many will go in 2006, and I am sure that another evolving of the industry will take place.

Its alot easier to start up now with Nats and all the off the shelf products.
but its not as easy to get traffic and do well like it used to be unless you have experience. :2 cents:

I absolutely agree with this statement :thumbsup

Or know the right hookups in the biz to really get going from the get go.

Another part to this question is how many have just left the industry? We could hoist a few for them, too.

I'm still here for another year, stronger !

pinkdollars
platniumrevenue
dirtyduckets

Looks like another promising year ahead of us.. :winkwink:

Not really bit the dust but...MerchSolutions

Experience is key. Paying PPS isn't that hard if you have experience. Demands on sponsor programs have increased with more compeitition. It just means we have to be faster and smarter at evolving. Over the last 3 years of running Wildcash.com we perfected PPS & converting traffic to conversions. Now its just a scaling game. more sites, more content, more services to affilates.

I don't remember too big names that went in 2005. 2257 changed a few programs though.

http://cjbucks.com/ closed on 11/1/05

http://hawgscash.com/ is another

Fatpaychecks :drinkup

I give them props for sending out an email to pull links not many do they just fade away

i stay with the strong ones :)

Asian4you.com will be missed. Good conversion, and always in my top 5 earners.

:upsidedow

You will be back right :) this industry is to fun to leave

I expect many to go in 2006.

I think most programs/websites stopped because of personal things. Like Tiffany Teen, though Phil-Flash-Cash still doing well.

The most annoying part of 2005 was Ibill and the stunt Verotel did earlier this year :disgust

What did verotel do earlier this year?

When I think of it twice, it was in 2004.

ok, what did they do in 2004? I don't remember major drama involving them

Verotel?
 

Yeah, what did they do???
I signed up there a couple of months ago... Was that a mistake?

Biz bankrupcies...
 

I recon the biggest problem in all this is that newbies come in, and really think that "sex sells" and bingo, they're gonna get rich quick.
By assuming that, they invest WAY too much, before they realise that reality is completely different.

You only hear about the success stories, but never about all of the bancrupcies!
The entire statement of "sex sells", sucks.
I mean, everything sells, even a hotdog with ketchup sells.

But in porn, from the outside, you generally only see the glamour of it. Even I "play" the role, where I dress up in Versace rings and gold pimp stuff.
And a fair part of the "act" is playing dosile and laid back, like it's all really easy.
You don't really want to show the nitty gritty countless hours of planning and marketing events etc that you must do to get things roling.
But, "they" actually believe that you're drowning in cash... that has come easy.

But, with all the newbies etc, thinking that this is easy, they hardly ever actually digg into the what's and how's etc in advance. They don't even take a closer look at the reasons for why some go bust, and others do well.

At the start of 2004, I heard of a company over here that were starting a "brand new" Internett Erotic shop.... yeah, great stuff, nobody thought of that before...
And they went to a product supplier and had estimated approximately 20,000,000,- Norwegian kroner in one years turnover!!!!

Haha, fucking dorks.
A simple check at the tax office would have told them that the biggest company over here in this field, that also has 8 physical shops, only turned over 14 million the previous year, and that is after they have been in the branch for like 12 years, and supply all major outlets!

Naturally they went bust.
But, they are not alone in this misconception of this-is-the-easy path.

To a large degree, I think most bancrupcies are good, to clear away much of the crap and cons that's going on.

This is a marked based product. Just like everything else.
The only advantage I can think of, is that this is a lot more fun.

Tiff freaked over nude pics and walked. Dont worry PF still sells like wow, youve made a right decision.

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We came on the scene in 2001, we have seen a lot of companies come and go in those years.

Meanwhile we are going stronger than ever and coming off another record sales year.

The number of sites and programs that have shut down since 2001 is really high when you stop to think about it.

In 2006, I think we will see more shut downs than start ups.

Nothing wrong with the Phil-Flash sites. It was Tiffany Teen that left the program, they lost a converting model.

They freezed and placed many accounts on 6 months hold.

2006 is a whole new game. lets see how she shakes out. i know one thing. we'll both still be here at the end of 2006 and beyond rog.

Pf?
 

I have no idea what a PF is, and I don't know who TIFF is either actually... hehe, I am Norwegian...

I am not really sure what I am looking for to tell the truth... I just want something that works, and is easy enough for people to actually use.
This Verotel thing seems to fix that.

Last year (2003) I tried some YowCow thing. I kept getting Mails telling me people have signed up, but were waiting for their payments etc.
At the same time, the same people were sending me direct E-Mails asking for a normal invoice as they couldn't figure out how to use the CowTow thing.

So, this Verotel system seems to be doing the job for me at least.

"how many companies bit the dust" - not sure - but Im going to make some more bite the dust this year.

Fucking A I am.

Saw your Site
 

Hey there..
I took a look at your Site. That looked like some pretty bad stats!
But, I have nothing to compare it to, as I am new to this. Do you have stats from something that is better?
What Site were these stats coming from?

I think PureCash left in 05. Sad to see them go.

Nilsy42 - brilliant post man.

I expect lots of smaller sites using CCBILL and such (and even some with third-party solutions) to die (not closing in effective terms)....things are quite different nowadays and it takes some serious investment to stay on top and evolve.