How many companies Bit the dust in 2005 - GoFuckYourself.com

RogerV · 12-26-2005, 09:07 AM

Its just about time to pour some for the homies again.

Every year programs,companies and people come and go

this one's for ya

Paul Markham · 12-26-2005, 09:15 AM

I think 2005 had fewer starters and fewer failures than the years before. People are starting to realise selling porn is not as easy as they thought.

Matt Collins · 12-26-2005, 09:15 AM

I can't say how many bit the dust for sure. But I remember for a while there, I got an email every week from another program that just up and folding for good.

Frankly I was surprised that the businesses were in such bad shape that they couldn't be sold even if just to save face.

Matt

Joesho · 12-26-2005, 09:20 AM

I expect many will go in 2006, and I am sure that another evolving of the industry will take place.

RogerV · 12-26-2005, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I think 2005 had fewer starters and fewer failures than the years before. People are starting to realise selling porn is not as easy as they thought.

Its alot easier to start up now with Nats and all the off the shelf products.
but its not as easy to get traffic and do well like it used to be unless you have experience.

adultchica · 12-26-2005, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I think 2005 had fewer starters and fewer failures than the years before. People are starting to realise selling porn is not as easy as they thought.

I absolutely agree with this statement

Sosa · 12-26-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

Its alot easier to start up now with Nats and all the off the shelf products.
but its not as easy to get traffic and do well like it used to be unless you have experience.

Or know the right hookups in the biz to really get going from the get go.

Raven · 12-26-2005, 10:38 AM

Another part to this question is how many have just left the industry? We could hoist a few for them, too.

Basic_man · 12-26-2005, 10:39 AM

I'm still here for another year, stronger !

bigdog · 12-26-2005, 11:29 AM

pinkdollars
platniumrevenue
dirtyduckets

PixeLs · 12-27-2005, 01:04 AM

Looks like another promising year ahead of us..

Mike Okitch · 12-27-2005, 01:09 AM

Not really bit the dust but...MerchSolutions

Matt_WildCash · 12-27-2005, 01:30 AM

Experience is key. Paying PPS isn't that hard if you have experience. Demands on sponsor programs have increased with more compeitition. It just means we have to be faster and smarter at evolving. Over the last 3 years of running Wildcash.com we perfected PPS & converting traffic to conversions. Now its just a scaling game. more sites, more content, more services to affilates.

I don't remember too big names that went in 2005. 2257 changed a few programs though.

xclusive · 12-27-2005, 01:35 AM

http://cjbucks.com/ closed on 11/1/05

xclusive · 12-27-2005, 01:39 AM

http://hawgscash.com/ is another

RogerV · 12-27-2005, 10:18 AM

Fatpaychecks

I give them props for sending out an email to pull links not many do they just fade away

sfera · 12-27-2005, 10:21 AM

i stay with the strong ones

nsfwnews · 12-28-2005, 12:59 AM

Asian4you.com will be missed. Good conversion, and always in my top 5 earners.

Peaches · 12-28-2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

Another part to this question is how many have just left the industry? We could hoist a few for them, too.

RogerV · 12-28-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

You will be back right

this industry is to fun to leave

Dalai lama · 12-28-2005, 09:52 AM

I expect many to go in 2006.

Dirty Dane · 12-28-2005, 10:28 AM

I think most programs/websites stopped because of personal things. Like Tiffany Teen, though Phil-Flash-Cash still doing well.

The most annoying part of 2005 was Ibill and the stunt Verotel did earlier this year

bigdog · 12-29-2005, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

I think most programs/websites stopped because of personal things. Like Tiffany Teen, though Phil-Flash-Cash still doing well.

The most annoying part of 2005 was Ibill and the stunt Verotel did earlier this year

What did verotel do earlier this year?

Dirty Dane · 12-29-2005, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

What did verotel do earlier this year?

When I think of it twice, it was in 2004.

Antonio · 12-29-2005, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

When I think of it twice, it was in 2004.

ok, what did they do in 2004? I don't remember major drama involving them

Nilsy42 · 12-29-2005, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

I think most programs/websites stopped because of personal things. Like Tiffany Teen, though Phil-Flash-Cash still doing well.

The most annoying part of 2005 was Ibill and the stunt Verotel did earlier this year

Yeah, what did they do???
I signed up there a couple of months ago... Was that a mistake?

Nilsy42 · 12-29-2005, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV

Its just about time to pour some for the homies again.

Every year programs,companies and people come and go
this one's for ya

I recon the biggest problem in all this is that newbies come in, and really think that "sex sells" and bingo, they're gonna get rich quick.
By assuming that, they invest WAY too much, before they realise that reality is completely different.

You only hear about the success stories, but never about all of the bancrupcies!
The entire statement of "sex sells", sucks.
I mean, everything sells, even a hotdog with ketchup sells.

But in porn, from the outside, you generally only see the glamour of it. Even I "play" the role, where I dress up in Versace rings and gold pimp stuff.
And a fair part of the "act" is playing dosile and laid back, like it's all really easy.
You don't really want to show the nitty gritty countless hours of planning and marketing events etc that you must do to get things roling.
But, "they" actually believe that you're drowning in cash... that has come easy.

But, with all the newbies etc, thinking that this is easy, they hardly ever actually digg into the what's and how's etc in advance. They don't even take a closer look at the reasons for why some go bust, and others do well.

At the start of 2004, I heard of a company over here that were starting a "brand new" Internett Erotic shop.... yeah, great stuff, nobody thought of that before...
And they went to a product supplier and had estimated approximately 20,000,000,- Norwegian kroner in one years turnover!!!!

Haha, fucking dorks.
A simple check at the tax office would have told them that the biggest company over here in this field, that also has 8 physical shops, only turned over 14 million the previous year, and that is after they have been in the branch for like 12 years, and supply all major outlets!

Naturally they went bust.
But, they are not alone in this misconception of this-is-the-easy path.

To a large degree, I think most bancrupcies are good, to clear away much of the crap and cons that's going on.

This is a marked based product. Just like everything else.
The only advantage I can think of, is that this is a lot more fun.

DutchTeenCash · 12-29-2005, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nilsy42

Yeah, what did they do???
I signed up there a couple of months ago... Was that a mistake?

Tiff freaked over nude pics and walked. Dont worry PF still sells like wow, youve made a right decision.

If youre lookin for simular sites try us out

hit me up for a cool deal 16 19 547 or bob AT dutchteencash DOT com

CashLikeWhoa_Mike · 12-29-2005, 07:21 AM

We came on the scene in 2001, we have seen a lot of companies come and go in those years.

Meanwhile we are going stronger than ever and coming off another record sales year.

The number of sites and programs that have shut down since 2001 is really high when you stop to think about it.

In 2006, I think we will see more shut downs than start ups.

Dirty Dane · 12-29-2005, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nilsy42

Yeah, what did they do???
I signed up there a couple of months ago... Was that a mistake?

Nothing wrong with the Phil-Flash sites. It was Tiffany Teen that left the program, they lost a converting model.

Dirty Dane · 12-29-2005, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

ok, what did they do in 2004? I don't remember major drama involving them

They freezed and placed many accounts on 6 months hold.

seeric · 12-29-2005, 07:37 AM

2006 is a whole new game. lets see how she shakes out. i know one thing. we'll both still be here at the end of 2006 and beyond rog.

Nilsy42 · 12-29-2005, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

Tiff freaked over nude pics and walked. Dont worry PF still sells like wow, youve made a right decision.

If youre lookin for simular sites try us out

hit me up for a cool deal 16 19 547 or bob AT dutchteencash DOT com

I have no idea what a PF is, and I don't know who TIFF is either actually... hehe, I am Norwegian...

I am not really sure what I am looking for to tell the truth... I just want something that works, and is easy enough for people to actually use.
This Verotel thing seems to fix that.

Last year (2003) I tried some YowCow thing. I kept getting Mails telling me people have signed up, but were waiting for their payments etc.
At the same time, the same people were sending me direct E-Mails asking for a normal invoice as they couldn't figure out how to use the CowTow thing.

So, this Verotel system seems to be doing the job for me at least.

MrChips · 12-29-2005, 07:46 AM

"how many companies bit the dust" - not sure - but Im going to make some more bite the dust this year.

Fucking A I am.

Nilsy42 · 12-29-2005, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrChips

"how many companies bit the dust" - not sure - but Im going to make some more bite the dust this year.

Fucking A I am.

Hey there..
I took a look at your Site. That looked like some pretty bad stats!
But, I have nothing to compare it to, as I am new to this. Do you have stats from something that is better?
What Site were these stats coming from?

bopha · 12-29-2005, 09:28 AM

I think PureCash left in 05. Sad to see them go.

Rui · 12-30-2005, 10:55 AM

Nilsy42 - brilliant post man.

I expect lots of smaller sites using CCBILL and such (and even some with third-party solutions) to die (not closing in effective terms)....things are quite different nowadays and it takes some serious investment to stay on top and evolve.

12-26-2005, 09:07 AM	#1
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	How many companies Bit the dust in 2005 Its just about time to pour some for the homies again. Every year programs,companies and people come and go this one's for ya

12-26-2005, 09:15 AM	#2
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	I think 2005 had fewer starters and fewer failures than the years before. People are starting to realise selling porn is not as easy as they thought. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

12-26-2005, 09:15 AM	#3
Matt Collins Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,060	I can't say how many bit the dust for sure. But I remember for a while there, I got an email every week from another program that just up and folding for good. Frankly I was surprised that the businesses were in such bad shape that they couldn't be sold even if just to save face. Matt __________________ Check out Globally Translated!-Translate your sites and join the global economy! MattLaw -The law firm for webmasters and site owners! ICQ: 254-829-586 Who is this Matt guy? Check out the Ambush Interview

12-26-2005, 09:20 AM	#4
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	I expect many will go in 2006, and I am sure that another evolving of the industry will take place. __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

12-26-2005, 10:38 AM	#8
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12-26-2005, 10:39 AM	#9
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12-27-2005, 01:04 AM	#11
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12-27-2005, 01:09 AM	#12
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12-27-2005, 01:30 AM	#13
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	Experience is key. Paying PPS isn't that hard if you have experience. Demands on sponsor programs have increased with more compeitition. It just means we have to be faster and smarter at evolving. Over the last 3 years of running Wildcash.com we perfected PPS & converting traffic to conversions. Now its just a scaling game. more sites, more content, more services to affilates. I don't remember too big names that went in 2005. 2257 changed a few programs though. __________________ Try the New XMovies.com and make more $$$ with your Traffic

12-27-2005, 01:35 AM	#14
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12-27-2005, 01:39 AM	#15
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12-27-2005, 10:18 AM	#16
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	Fatpaychecks I give them props for sending out an email to pull links not many do they just fade away Last edited by RogerV; 12-27-2005 at 10:19 AM..

12-27-2005, 10:21 AM	#17
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	i stay with the strong ones

12-28-2005, 12:59 AM	#18
nsfwnews Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 16	Asian4you.com will be missed. Good conversion, and always in my top 5 earners. __________________ http://www.nsfwnews.com/ ...PR5 last time I checked

12-28-2005, 09:52 AM	#21
Dalai lama Strength and Honor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 16,540	I expect many to go in 2006. __________________ A program you can trust. Gallerybooster Run multiply TGPs of 1 script

12-28-2005, 10:28 AM	#22
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	I think most programs/websites stopped because of personal things. Like Tiffany Teen, though Phil-Flash-Cash still doing well. The most annoying part of 2005 was Ibill and the stunt Verotel did earlier this year

12-29-2005, 07:21 AM	#29
CashLikeWhoa_Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,202	We came on the scene in 2001, we have seen a lot of companies come and go in those years. Meanwhile we are going stronger than ever and coming off another record sales year. The number of sites and programs that have shut down since 2001 is really high when you stop to think about it. In 2006, I think we will see more shut downs than start ups. __________________ --Making serious money for our online partners since 2001-- --Home of the Best Converting Solo Ethnic Girls on the Net-- --ICQ me anytime at 637426291 for help--

12-29-2005, 07:37 AM	#32
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	2006 is a whole new game. lets see how she shakes out. i know one thing. we'll both still be here at the end of 2006 and beyond rog.

12-29-2005, 07:46 AM	#34
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	"how many companies bit the dust" - not sure - but Im going to make some more bite the dust this year. Fucking A I am.

12-29-2005, 09:28 AM	#36
bopha Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,882	I think PureCash left in 05. Sad to see them go.

12-30-2005, 10:55 AM	#37
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Nilsy42 - brilliant post man. I expect lots of smaller sites using CCBILL and such (and even some with third-party solutions) to die (not closing in effective terms)....things are quite different nowadays and it takes some serious investment to stay on top and evolve.