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AaronM 01-23-2008 03:40 PM

Check Fraud and what I'm doing about it.
 
Apparently a check was stolen from my office and yesterday it was cashed for $1000.00

The bank has already refunded my money but I've decided to push the issue further since the bank will not be going after anybody for such a small amount.

I have the persons name, finger print, & signature. I used some of that info to track her down. Got her MySpace, her Social Security Number, DOB, and her last known address which her, her mother, and her sister were evicted from on November 16, 2007.

As I mentioned, the bank gave me the money back but now I have a problem with not knowing who stole from me. What I want to do is get this girl to tell me who gave her my check so I can take care of the thief.

I'll be on top of this until I find her then we will see how things go from there.

Posting here mostly to vent. I'm sure most of you don't give a fuck......

After Shock Media 01-23-2008 03:52 PM

She has no clue the bank is not going to pursue it. I do not think there is anything illegal about fibbing and telling her you are a PI. Continue the lie and explain that you will just give her information to the bank unless she cooperates and tells you who gave her the check.

AaronM 01-23-2008 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13688564)
She has no clue the bank is not going to pursue it. I do not think there is anything illegal about fibbing and telling her you are a PI. Continue the lie and explain that you will just give her information to the bank unless she cooperates and tells you who gave her the check.



That's pretty much the plan at this point. :thumbsup

baddog 01-23-2008 04:06 PM

Sorry for waking you.

MetaMan 01-23-2008 04:07 PM

are you going to get one of your buddies to take her down, give her a cheap shot while she is on the ground and then come on GFY and make yourself sound like a tough guy?

NosMo 01-23-2008 04:20 PM

Please keep us up to date on this. I know I would like to know how it all ends up.

NosMo

Persius 01-23-2008 04:23 PM

Give her a 1,000$ check to tell her who gave it to her...

cherrylula 01-23-2008 04:30 PM

Do you have a lot of people in your office? Or it was a break in? I am confused as how you don't know who it is. I figure its a lack of facts on my end, good luck finding them.

and I thought this thread would be about site processing...

AaronM 01-23-2008 08:03 PM

UPDATE:

So the girl called me almost in tears after reading what I sent her and her boyfriend on MySpace.

Anyway.....Turns out she lives with the maid I use at my studio and that's who she got the check from.

Now I have to decide what to do about the maid.....Other than fire her.

tony286 01-23-2008 08:06 PM

man that sucks.

Spunky 01-23-2008 08:09 PM

The cops won't do anything about it?

After Shock Media 01-23-2008 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13689851)
UPDATE:

So the girl called me almost in tears after reading what I sent her and her boyfriend on MySpace.

Anyway.....Turns out she lives with the maid I use at my studio and that's who she got the check from.

Now I have to decide what to do about the maid.....Other than fire her.

Demand that between them they must return to you the 1000.00 or you will turn them both in and since it is over 500.00 it is a felony. Ok so it is again a bluff in parts and yes your gaining an extra 1000.00 but fuck thieves. Personally if someone needs money so bad that they are willing to steal it from me just tell me that and I would rather give it to you or some shit.

papill0n 01-23-2008 08:13 PM

How could the girl have not known the check was stolen? Isn't she just as bad for taking your stolen check?

Fuck I hate thieves, nail them both Aaron.

AaronM 01-23-2008 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13689879)
Demand that between them they must return to you the 1000.00 or you will turn them both in and since it is over 500.00 it is a felony. Ok so it is again a bluff in parts and yes your gaining an extra 1000.00 but fuck thieves. Personally if someone needs money so bad that they are willing to steal it from me just tell me that and I would rather give it to you or some shit.


I'm not attorney but the word extortion comes to mind when I think about doing that. That would make me no better than the thief who stole from me.

LiveDose 01-23-2008 08:14 PM

Nice detective work. You could have fun with this on so many levels.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-23-2008 08:18 PM

If your maid is hot, have her pay it off in sex, otherwise have her clean your place for free for the next 6 months (although I am not sure I would let a known thief inside my premises again).

The girl who cashed the check owes you too, since she knows what she did is wrong/illegal.

At least you caught it quick and are not out any bucks...

ADG

After Shock Media 01-23-2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13689899)
I'm not attorney but the word extortion comes to mind when I think about doing that. That would make me no better than the thief who stole from me.

Well it also could be a settlement for not turning them in as you could turn them in.

Or yes you could just turn them in and get them busted by the police. You have the bank evidence and such.

Was your maid bonded? If so I would also go that route and if not, not using a bonded and insured maid is just crazy.

Holly 01-23-2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13689851)
Now I have to decide what to do about the maid.....Other than fire her.

If you have a crawl space..... then you have your answer.

rowan 01-23-2008 08:40 PM

How can someone cash a check that isn't in their name? I know it's possible, I'm just wondering why it seems to be so easy in the USA...

AaronM 01-23-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13690004)
How can someone cash a check that isn't in their name? I know it's possible, I'm just wondering why it seems to be so easy in the USA...


It's kind easy when somebody steals a blank check then writes it to another person and tells them that they can't cash it at the bank it's issued from because they owe them money.

The fucked thing is that this person is more than just a maid. She's been a friend of mine for a few years now. I have my money back but I've also lost somebody who I thought was a good friend.

Not sure if I'm going to turn her in or not. She's a single mother of a 6 year old. Not my problem but again...What do I gain if I turn her in? Nothing. And the bank won't go after her for a grand so again...why bother turning her in?

Just write the friendship off or????

Fap 01-23-2008 08:48 PM

Honestly you got your money back, the girl seems like she is going through enough, her mom sister and her evicted? Leave the girl alone she was desperate. She made a mistake maybe a slap on the wrist will do it

AaronM 01-23-2008 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banthis (Post 13690029)
Honestly you got your money back, the girl seems like she is going through enough, her mom sister and her evicted? Leave the girl alone she was desperate. She made a mistake maybe a slap on the wrist will do it


Wrong girl.

The girl who cashed the check is the one who has gone through all that. The girl who stole the check and wrote it is not the same girl.

rowan 01-23-2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13690021)
It's kind easy when somebody steals a blank check then writes it to another person and tells them that they can't cash it at the bank it's issued from because they owe them money.

Right, I didn't realise it was blank. This makes it even more ludicrous, does she think that you wouldn't notice that a check for an arbitrary amount was drawn on your account?

IMHO you should come up with something that will give her a good scare and make her think carefully about what she's done, but don't turn her into the cops. Perhaps hint at future action if you ever hear of anything like this happening again.

AaronM 01-23-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13690055)
Right, I didn't realise it was blank. This makes it even more ludicrous, does she think that you wouldn't notice that a check for an arbitrary amount was drawn on your account?

IMHO you should come up with something that will give her a good scare and make her think carefully about what she's done, but don't turn her into the cops. Perhaps hint at future action if you ever hear of anything like this happening again.


Another shit thing is that if she would have told me she needed the money, I probably would have helped her out. I've helped her a lot over the last 3 years or so. Now she won't have me to lean on in the future.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to let it go but I'm going to ask an attorney tomorrow. Since I now know and the bank has paid me, I may be legally obligated to turn her into the bank even if they choose not to prosecute her. I would hate to break some sort of law and end up getting bitten in the ass on this by withholding her info from the bank.

rowan 01-23-2008 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13690119)
Another shit thing is that if she would have told me she needed the money, I probably would have helped her out. I've helped her a lot over the last 3 years or so. Now she won't have me to lean on in the future.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to let it go but I'm going to ask an attorney tomorrow. Since I now know and the bank has paid me, I may be legally obligated to turn her into the bank even if they choose not to prosecute her. I would hate to break some sort of law and end up getting bitten in the ass on this by withholding her info from the bank.

Good point, in the end it could be you that's up for fraud. Keep us posted. :thumbsup

Does she know you know yet? I presume the girl who cashed the check would have informed her.

NosMo 01-23-2008 10:51 PM

Fire her and press charges, For someone that you have know for so long and help so much tells me either she hates you or there are drugs / piece of shit boy friend. and by being nice your only enabling her.

But it is your life and your money. but please keep us informed.

Thanks
NosMo

CDSmith 01-23-2008 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13690021)
Just write the friendship off or????

Trust is broken. Period.

It's like the girl who sinks her teeth into your cock while giving you a hummer, causing you to howl in pain and wake the neighbors who in turn call the cops thinking someone died and you spend the rest of the night talking your way out of a disturbing the peace charge. Are you letting that bitch and her steel beartrap mouth near your axlerod anytime soon? I think not.

This is the same thing. :D

AaronM 01-23-2008 11:07 PM

She's texting me now and admitting to it and apologising. Begging me not to call the cops.

Told me she is stripping now to pay me back.

I have not responded. Probably won't.

wdsguy 01-23-2008 11:21 PM

keep us updated on what you are gonna do.

Evil E 01-24-2008 12:17 AM

If you follow the ancient Japanese tradition, you would have to go for at least a 15 man bukkake on her.

kane 01-24-2008 02:04 AM

I had a similar situation happen a few years ago. A guy I thought was a friend came over to my house and when I was in the other room stole a blank check. He ordered new checks and had them sent to his house then set out writing them all over town. He also opened up a handful of credit accounts in my name. All in all it ended up being about 40K worth of credit and bad checks. It took me over year to get everything fixed. I pressed charges and he is in jail now but he is in for assaulting his girlfriend, not writing bad checks. They did it that way so it would be a violent crime and be his second strike, one more and he goes away for a long long time.

If it were me I would press charges. The reason would be so that she would fully understand that when you need help or are desperate you can't just steal from people then cry to them and have everything turn out okay.

Glad you got your money back and found out who did it though.

rowan 01-24-2008 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13690384)
She's texting me now and admitting to it and apologising. Begging me not to call the cops.

Told me she is stripping now to pay me back.

I have not responded. Probably won't.

When she has the $1k ready tell her to give it to the bank, that way you're off the hook as well.

Did she attempt to explain what she needed the money so badly for?

Fuck texting... she should have called or come around.

Tat2Jr 01-24-2008 02:42 AM

Find the most degrading niche that's legal to shoot, and make it pay you back that way. Fucking thieves suck ass.

Ross 01-24-2008 03:34 AM

Maybe you should speak to her, find out her reasons why she done it. If you believe her cut her a break, if you don't believe her turn her in. There's no excuse for stealing from someone, especially someone you consider a friend but desperate people do things that they normally would never do.

At least give her 5 mins to explain to you, then you can make a decision from there.

PersianKitty 01-24-2008 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13690119)
Another shit thing is that if she would have told me she needed the money, I probably would have helped her out. I've helped her a lot over the last 3 years or so. Now she won't have me to lean on in the future.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to let it go but I'm going to ask an attorney tomorrow. Since I now know and the bank has paid me, I may be legally obligated to turn her into the bank even if they choose not to prosecute her. I would hate to break some sort of law and end up getting bitten in the ass on this by withholding her info from the bank.

That's exactly what I was getting ready to write...

That if she'd come to you asking for help for a legitimate reason, you'd of likely helped her with no problem. Now, instead, you're all twisted up over it and rightfully so. The fact that she stole from you rather than ask for your help makes me wonder if there's something going on she's not willing to fess up to.

I had a maid a few years back that stole a piece of jewelry from me. I'd known the girl for many years. It tore me up that she could do that. When I confronted her about it she of course denied it at first, then told me that she'd taken it to give to her mother as a gift. I told her if she'd asked me if she could have the earrings I would have likely given them to her, but instead she'd ruined a good relationship.

I'd say call the bank and feel them out. Tell them you have a lead or something and see if they'll tell you what they'd do if you found the person.

Beyond that... follow your heart.

PK

KCM 01-24-2008 05:01 AM

States have different laws, but where I live, either you or the bank can prosecute. If the bank declines, you can still persue charges. If it were me, I'd fire the maid, turn in a police report, and get a warrant on both for the theft of the check. Otherwise, they will continue to steal from people, and get away with it... BTW, you should immediately order a credit report, to be sure they haven't opened any accounts in your name, that you don't know about...

Major (Tom) 01-24-2008 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13688479)
Apparently a check was stolen from my office and yesterday it was cashed for $1000.00

The bank has already refunded my money but I've decided to push the issue further since the bank will not be going after anybody for such a small amount.

I have the persons name, finger print, & signature. I used some of that info to track her down. Got her MySpace, her Social Security Number, DOB, and her last known address which her, her mother, and her sister were evicted from on November 16, 2007.

As I mentioned, the bank gave me the money back but now I have a problem with not knowing who stole from me. What I want to do is get this girl to tell me who gave her my check so I can take care of the thief.

I'll be on top of this until I find her then we will see how things go from there.

Posting here mostly to vent. I'm sure most of you don't give a fuck......

it all makes sense now..
ds

VicD 01-24-2008 05:34 AM

well, she owes you at least some serious blowjobs

BVF 01-24-2008 05:52 AM

the girl who cashed the check has gone through enough already and doesn't need anymore punishment...

The maid needs to be fired...

Then the whole situation should be let go...It's good for Karma.

You have plenty of money anyway...PLUS you got your money back...They don't..

Let it go.

Nikki_Licks 01-24-2008 05:55 AM

Glad to hear you got your thousand bucks back. This is a hard decision, but if she stole from you this time, what else has she gone through or stole when you were not around?
Heck, if she is stripping now to pay you back, hire her on for another month or so to clean your house in the nude and to perform personal favors for you in between.......:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I hope the situation works out for the best....:winkwink:

RudeBoy 01-24-2008 06:01 AM

boring drama

Penny24Seven 01-24-2008 06:06 AM

Do you know for sure it was the maid or maybe the girl that took it told her to say it was the maid to get the heat off of her.

ServerGenius 01-24-2008 06:15 AM

Fuck the bank, if they're too lazy to go after a grand you shouldn't give it
to them either......Firing her and letting her know she lost a good friend sound
enough to me as losing a friend always turns out to have a lot more value
than a louzy grand :2 cents:

~Ray 01-24-2008 07:17 AM

maybe the maid brought her over to help clean one day and the skank stole a check while the maid was busy working?

ajrocks 01-24-2008 07:22 AM

She must be raped and the person who took it killed! Keep the news coming!

cherrylula 01-24-2008 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13690021)
It's kind easy when somebody steals a blank check then writes it to another person and tells them that they can't cash it at the bank it's issued from because they owe them money.

The fucked thing is that this person is more than just a maid. She's been a friend of mine for a few years now. I have my money back but I've also lost somebody who I thought was a good friend.

Not sure if I'm going to turn her in or not. She's a single mother of a 6 year old. Not my problem but again...What do I gain if I turn her in? Nothing. And the bank won't go after her for a grand so again...why bother turning her in?

Just write the friendship off or????

I wonder how much other shit she's stolen from you if that is the case...

I'd turn her in, if only so she doesn't steal from others. Nothing worse than a thief. She is *definitely* NOT your friend!

If it was a guy with a kid, would you care? Don't let the vagina cloud your mind. A thief is a thief.

did she score drugs with the $$ she made stealing from you? or was her kid hungry? lol use logic

cherrylula 01-24-2008 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13690119)
Another shit thing is that if she would have told me she needed the money, I probably would have helped her out. I've helped her a lot over the last 3 years or so. Now she won't have me to lean on in the future.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to let it go but I'm going to ask an attorney tomorrow. Since I now know and the bank has paid me, I may be legally obligated to turn her into the bank even if they choose not to prosecute her. I would hate to break some sort of law and end up getting bitten in the ass on this by withholding her info from the bank.

I actually knew a case just like this, a check stolen from a business and it was even for $1,000. It was a bar I worked at yeeears ago, a manager got fired and then forged a check thinking she wouldn't get caught.

And yeah, when you report it to the bank, THEY will press charges. She frauded them, not you, because you got your $$ back. Its pretty serious, she's going to be in some trouble for sure.

I just remember hearing the outcome of my experience, the bar owner laughed it off because he didn't have to lift a finger to even prosecute her, and it wasn't like she could even be pissed at him over it.

The bank probably already notified law enforcement.

Satan 01-24-2008 07:40 AM

good PI work aaron, glad you got the money back, sorry about the friendship though

u-Bob 01-24-2008 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13689879)
Demand that between them they must return to you the 1000.00 or you will turn them both in and since it is over 500.00 it is a felony. Ok so it is again a bluff in parts and yes your gaining an extra 1000.00 but fuck thieves.

:thumbsup

brand0n 01-24-2008 08:18 AM

sounds like you could get a free lesbo shoot outta the deal

make the bitch who cashed it eat the maids ass, film, and give the content to every one you know who buys for free.

splatter em all over the net and call it even


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