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stickyfingerz 05-14-2008 11:30 AM

Whats more important to you? Securing your content, Speed of delivery of your content
 
, saving money on bandwidth, or... All 3? I have to say that this is the most impressed I have been with inroads for pushing our industry in the right direction. So impressed that we are switching over all our video content to CaveCreek Cdn.

So here are some of the advantages.

1. Your customer doesnt have to download the full file to scrub forward or back in the video. What does that mean to a program? Lots of costs saved on bandwidth. I think that alone is an awesome advantage.

2. Speed to your customer is amazing. They are served your content from a location that is closest to them. Another huge advantage. A customer with cock in hand doesnt want to wait for buffering, they want to wank it. A happy customer is a customer that will rebill.

3. Security. Those of us with exclusive content dont want it to be given away for free obviously. If a customer loves the content and can't find it anywhere else he is more likely to pop those credit card numbers in.

I know this sounds kind of salesy but rest assured I am not getting paid for this. That is a testament to how much I believe in this service.

There is a free 15 day trial so its not going to cost you a dime to find out on your own.

http://www.cavecreek.com/cdn.php you can read bit more about it there.

And here is a link to both unencrypted and encrypted streams for you to see for yourself.

Make sure you scrub through the progress bar and see how fast it jumps to the spot.

http://www.cavecreek.com/HD-Flash-CDN.php

:thumbsup

BrianL 05-14-2008 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14189038)
, saving money on bandwidth, or... All 3? I have to say that this is the most impressed I have been with inroads for pushing our industry in the right direction. So impressed that we are switching over all our video content to CaveCreek Cdn.

So here are some of the advantages.

1. Your customer doesnt have to download the full file to scrub forward or back in the video. What does that mean to a program? Lots of costs saved on bandwidth. I think that alone is an awesome advantage.

2. Speed to your customer is amazing. They are served your content from a location that is closest to them. Another huge advantage. A customer with cock in hand doesnt want to wait for buffering, they want to wank it. A happy customer is a customer that will rebill.

3. Security. Those of us with exclusive content dont want it to be given away for free obviously. If a customer loves the content and can't find it anywhere else he is more likely to pop those credit card numbers in.

I know this sounds kind of salesy but rest assured I am not getting paid for this. That is a testament to how much I believe in this service.

There is a free 15 day trial so its not going to cost you a dime to find out on your own.

you can read bit more about it there.

And here is a link to both unencrypted and encrypted streams for you to see for yourself.

Make sure you scrub through the progress bar and see how fast it jumps to the spot.



:thumbsup

Wow. Sticky thanks for all the Press. We are excited about the streaming offer and we will be pimping it up at Webmaster East in NY the next couple of days please feel free to hit me up if you want more detail

stickyfingerz 05-14-2008 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL (Post 14189064)
Wow. Sticky thanks for all the Press. We are excited about the streaming offer and we will be pimping it up at Webmaster East in NY the next couple of days please feel free to hit me up if you want more detail

Thanks Bryan you have been great getting us through the process! :thumbsup

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 11:43 AM

Programs not moving in this direction will fall behind I think. So where are the "you can't secure content" people? I forgot to put, "Would you hit it, Pics inside, Vids inside, and Lensman is an asshole in the title. DOH! :1orglaugh

Barefootsies 05-15-2008 11:46 AM

Who is the "we"?

Stinkyzingers productions?

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14194239)
Who is the "we"?

Stinkyzingers productions?

We? Which We? CaveCreek is who this thread is about, specifically their CDN service with h264 flash 3 streaming technology. :winkwink:

tony286 05-15-2008 02:15 PM

Lets see how your members embrace it,we dont have to your members have to.

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14195121)
Lets see how your members embrace it,we dont have to your members have to.

Hmm seems like Youtube has done well with no downloads. EVERY paysite needs to start to switch stuff up. Leave them downloadable vids, but make a much larger watermark. Make the downloadable quality less, and streaming higher. Unless you want to continue giving away your product when the customer is only renting. :2 cents: Why some of you guys WANT to continue to embrace a flawed model, then whine about content theft is beyond me. Want higher sales? Keep your content IN your members area. Pics give them that, but videos uh uh.

Barefootsies 05-15-2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14195309)
Keep your content IN your members area. Pics give them that, but videos uh uh.


PowerCum 05-15-2008 03:24 PM

The "HD" stays perhaps because it's larger than 320x240. True HD is 1920x1080... and trust me... it's a 9 Mbps stream minimum.

Their services cost way much than just stacking more servers to my cluster and I am completely sure they cannot push several GBps nor can scale properly when we are talking about 3 - 5 TB of content.
It's a nice service for a small program, but nothing decent to use when you are managing lots of content and need huge BW.

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerCum (Post 14195357)
The "HD" stays perhaps because it's larger than 320x240. True HD is 1920x1080... and trust me... it's a 9 Mbps stream minimum.

Their services cost way much than just stacking more servers to my cluster and I am completely sure they cannot push several GBps nor can scale properly when we are talking about 3 - 5 TB of content.
It's a nice service for a small program, but nothing decent to use when you are managing lots of content and need huge BW.

Thats wrong. Huge bandwidth is EXACTLY why you would want the service. You need to research more what CDN is. If you want hit up Bryan L and he will give you the full lowdown, but not only does this service increase the speed of your content getting to your members you also save A LOT of bandwidth. So normally a customer would have to download the full file to view the end of the video. Do you realize how many customer goto the end of a video to see the cumshot? Btw in my members area Im pusing 854x480 which can be opened to full screen viewing and looks awesome. 854x480 is 480p I can push 720p and it still looks beautiful.

Forget what you know about quality vs bitrate until you encode to h264. Its a whole different scale. The vids you see on that page are only 1.5mpbs. So not only do you save bandwidth due to ability to scrub through vid without downloading full file, you also have much smaller file sizes with the h264.

And a quick deal on the cdn. It has nothing to do with clustering servers. This is about delivering the content to your customer from a location that is closer to them. Closer Datacenter means faster file speed. Again Bryan L can explain whatever you need to know about this service. :thumbsup

Btw I only shoot in HD so I know all about it, but you have to compromise sometimes. Call it whatever you want, but delivering your content to your customer at the HIGHEST quality possible is where it is.

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14195352)

That is a sexy sexy man right dare.. :winkwink:

tony286 05-15-2008 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14195309)
Hmm seems like Youtube has done well with no downloads. EVERY paysite needs to start to switch stuff up. Leave them downloadable vids, but make a much larger watermark. Make the downloadable quality less, and streaming higher. Unless you want to continue giving away your product when the customer is only renting. :2 cents: Why some of you guys WANT to continue to embrace a flawed model, then whine about content theft is beyond me. Want higher sales? Keep your content IN your members area. Pics give them that, but videos uh uh.

Its easy to have that attitude when you dont have many members. lol Lets see how your members deal with it.

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14195957)
Its easy to have that attitude when you dont have many members. lol Lets see how your members deal with it.

How they deal with instant video playback? How they deal with super high quality video? Sorry I dont have many 56k customers or people using pentium II computers. We dont aim at that market, and those customers would be unlikely to be able to even playback our downloadable clips.

Im going to open a gas station specializing in LEADED gas only next. Fuck that technology shit. :1orglaugh

All I know is continue on with the old ways. Ill move forward and ahead, and try to provide MY members with the highest quality content, and fastest delivery I can. All the while trying to break through the "you get all my shit for a rental" model. :2 cents:

tony286 05-15-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14195971)
How they deal with instant video playback? How they deal with super high quality video? Sorry I dont have many 56k customers or people using pentium II computers. We dont aim at that market, and those customers would be unlikely to be able to even playback our downloadable clips.

Im going to open a gas station specializing in LEADED gas only next. Fuck that technology shit. :1orglaugh

All I know is continue on with the old ways. Ill move forward and ahead, and try to provide MY members with the highest quality content, and fastest delivery I can. All the while trying to break through the "you get all my shit for a rental" model. :2 cents:

nice words lets see how your members embrace it.

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14195975)
nice words lets see how your members embrace it.

Ya again tell me why they wouldnt? Cause they cant download and keep our videos forever for 27.95? :uhoh Again embrace the 1996 model that you are stuck it. :thumbsup

tony286 05-15-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14195981)
Ya again tell me why they wouldnt? Cause they cant download and keep our videos forever for 27.95? :uhoh Again embrace the 1996 model that you are stuck it. :thumbsup

You tell them that they are embracing a old model when they charge back and cancel. lol

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-15-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14195352)

Someone should send Stinkyfingerz a tube of Ass Kisser breath spray:

http://www.carbolicsmokeball.com/images/300/91057.jpg

Stinky's attempts to reinvent himself after his former employer outed him as a thief and liar are pretty pathetic, as are his lame, "hey, see you at the next show", posts to people he only met maybe once or twice at the handful of shows that he has attended...

Big Balla Stinky's exclusive site traffic (from today):

Daisymarie18.com has a traffic rank of: 1,054,730

Nerdynora.com has a traffic rank of: 1,721,925

Gold Jerry, Gold!!! :1orglaugh

ADG

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14195995)
You tell them that they are embracing a old model when they charge back and cancel. lol

Go look at mainstream. Netflix, Vongo, etc are all going to start letting you keep the movie for ever for 9.95 a month. As many as you can download. They probably get a lot of chargebacks too huh? :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 14196006)
Someone should Stinkyfingerz a tube of Ass Kisser breath spray:

http://www.carbolicsmokeball.com/images/300/91057.jpg

Stinky's attempts to reinvent himself after his former employer outed him as a thief and liar are pretty pathetic, as are his lame, "hey, see you at the next show", posts to people he only met maybe once or twice at the handful of shows that he has attended...

Big Balla Stinky's exclusive site traffic (from today):

Daisymarie18.com has a traffic rank of: 1,054,730

Nerdynora.com has a traffic rank of: 1,721,925

Gold Jerry, Gold!!! :1orglaugh

ADG


Well thanks for the bump. :thumbsup Btw Ive been to I think 7 or 8 shows now. I am sure Ill see you at one eventually. Ill keep my eyes open for the long gray haired hippy. Ass kisser? Hmm interesting. Ill just keep doing what I am doing. There are a few people out there that think I am doing some pretty cool stuff. Their opinions of me matter a tad more than your opinions of me do.

tony286 05-15-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14196007)
Go look at mainstream. Netflix, Vongo, etc are all going to start letting you keep the movie for ever for 9.95 a month. As many as you can download. They probably get a lot of chargebacks too huh? :1orglaugh


You could talk the way you do if you had a track record of success. You come off like a know it all and its sad because when Ive spoke to you on icq your a very nice guy.

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14196022)
You could talk the way you do if you had a track record of success. You come off like a know it all and its sad because when Ive spoke to you on icq your a very nice guy.

Guess we will just have to see then huh? :winkwink:

aico 05-15-2008 07:49 PM

It's better to be quiet and thought of as an idiot, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt.

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 14196050)
It's better to be quiet and thought of as an idiot, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt.

You should of refrained from posting then huh?

mx8829 05-15-2008 08:07 PM

people who are willing to pay for content will pay for content, people who likes to wack for freeshit will continue to find ways to wack for free shit.

That is the truth :)

Sly 05-15-2008 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14196007)
Go look at mainstream. Netflix, Vongo, etc are all going to start letting you keep the movie for ever for 9.95 a month. As many as you can download. They probably get a lot of chargebacks too huh? :1orglaugh

That is not how Netflix works.

You pay a monthly fee and get unlimited access to their online archive, yes. You cannot download movies. The movies are quite grainy. And the selection of movies is extremely limited.

I don't know about Vongo.

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 14196109)
That is not how Netflix works.

You pay a monthly fee and get unlimited access to their online archive, yes. You cannot download movies. The movies are quite grainy. And the selection of movies is extremely limited.

I don't know about Vongo.

Netflix quality for me was just about perfect opened full screen on a 22" monitor eh. You cannot download or keep the content.

Sly 05-15-2008 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14196116)
Netflix quality for me was just about perfect opened full screen on a 22" monitor eh. You cannot download or keep the content.

Just about perfect? LOL, sorry, get your eyes checked. It's totally watchable and I won't stop watching it, but it is not a quality stream.

stickyfingerz 05-15-2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 14196124)
Just about perfect? LOL, sorry, get your eyes checked. It's totally watchable and I won't stop watching it, but it is not a quality stream.

You know the quality goes up or down depending upon your connection right?

Maybe you have a bad connection? Dunno.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/271983627.png

pocketkangaroo 05-15-2008 09:53 PM

I think the Netflix stream is pretty good. They are also supposed to be linking up with the XBox 360 and PS3 pretty soon.

I do have to say that I don't think you can compare what Netflix does to a porn site though. With Netflix, you're talking about a company that has to deal with the rules and regulations of each individual studio. The choice to stream and not allow downloads isn't made by Netflix, it's made by the studios. It's the reason they aren't on the Mac at the moment. With a porn site, the content is yours and you're making the decision on whether you want to leave it open to the public for download.

madfuck 05-15-2008 09:57 PM

thks for the info....keep up the info!!!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-15-2008 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14196018)
Ill just keep doing what I am doing. There are a few people out there that think I am doing some pretty cool stuff.

Yeah, that's "pretty cool stuff" you are doing on your exclusive sites:

Quote:

Daisymarie18.com has a traffic rank of: 1,054,730

Nerdynora.com has a traffic rank of: 1,721,925
Pretty cool stuff on your "20k Gold" contest too, which no one earned a single penny worth of gold on (even though it only took 2-3 sales a day to win, "GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!)... :1orglaugh

Amazing how none of the (in your words) "people out there that think I am doing some pretty cool stuff", have come to your defense in this thread - better step up your brown-nosing Stinky...

:321GFY

ADG

stickyfingerz 05-16-2008 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 14196274)
Yeah, that's "pretty cool stuff" you are doing on your exclusive sites:



Pretty cool stuff on your "20k Gold" contest too, which no one earned a single penny worth of gold on (even though it only took 2-3 sales a day to win, "GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!)... :1orglaugh

Amazing how none of the (in your words) "people out there that think I am doing some pretty cool stuff", have come to your defense in this thread - better step up your brown-nosing Stinky...

:321GFY

ADG

You are a snide little man, and karma is a bitch. Nuff said about that. :1orglaugh

Back to the subject at hand, and not the offtrack one captain howdy here is trying to aim for.

Speed of content delivery, savings on bandwidth, and being able to keep your content "YOUR" content.


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