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stickyfingerz · 05-14-2008, 11:30 AM

, saving money on bandwidth, or... All 3? I have to say that this is the most impressed I have been with inroads for pushing our industry in the right direction. So impressed that we are switching over all our video content to CaveCreek Cdn.

So here are some of the advantages.

1. Your customer doesnt have to download the full file to scrub forward or back in the video. What does that mean to a program? Lots of costs saved on bandwidth. I think that alone is an awesome advantage.

2. Speed to your customer is amazing. They are served your content from a location that is closest to them. Another huge advantage. A customer with cock in hand doesnt want to wait for buffering, they want to wank it. A happy customer is a customer that will rebill.

3. Security. Those of us with exclusive content dont want it to be given away for free obviously. If a customer loves the content and can't find it anywhere else he is more likely to pop those credit card numbers in.

I know this sounds kind of salesy but rest assured I am not getting paid for this. That is a testament to how much I believe in this service.

There is a free 15 day trial so its not going to cost you a dime to find out on your own.

http://www.cavecreek.com/cdn.php you can read bit more about it there.

And here is a link to both unencrypted and encrypted streams for you to see for yourself.

Make sure you scrub through the progress bar and see how fast it jumps to the spot.

http://www.cavecreek.com/HD-Flash-CDN.php

BrianL · 05-14-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

, saving money on bandwidth, or... All 3? I have to say that this is the most impressed I have been with inroads for pushing our industry in the right direction. So impressed that we are switching over all our video content to CaveCreek Cdn.

So here are some of the advantages.

1. Your customer doesnt have to download the full file to scrub forward or back in the video. What does that mean to a program? Lots of costs saved on bandwidth. I think that alone is an awesome advantage.

2. Speed to your customer is amazing. They are served your content from a location that is closest to them. Another huge advantage. A customer with cock in hand doesnt want to wait for buffering, they want to wank it. A happy customer is a customer that will rebill.

3. Security. Those of us with exclusive content dont want it to be given away for free obviously. If a customer loves the content and can't find it anywhere else he is more likely to pop those credit card numbers in.

I know this sounds kind of salesy but rest assured I am not getting paid for this. That is a testament to how much I believe in this service.

There is a free 15 day trial so its not going to cost you a dime to find out on your own.

you can read bit more about it there.

And here is a link to both unencrypted and encrypted streams for you to see for yourself.

Make sure you scrub through the progress bar and see how fast it jumps to the spot.

Wow. Sticky thanks for all the Press. We are excited about the streaming offer and we will be pimping it up at Webmaster East in NY the next couple of days please feel free to hit me up if you want more detail

stickyfingerz · 05-14-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL

Wow. Sticky thanks for all the Press. We are excited about the streaming offer and we will be pimping it up at Webmaster East in NY the next couple of days please feel free to hit me up if you want more detail

Thanks Bryan you have been great getting us through the process!

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 11:43 AM

Programs not moving in this direction will fall behind I think. So where are the "you can't secure content" people? I forgot to put, "Would you hit it, Pics inside, Vids inside, and Lensman is an asshole in the title. DOH!

Barefootsies · 05-15-2008, 11:46 AM

Who is the "we"?

Stinkyzingers productions?

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Who is the "we"?

Stinkyzingers productions?

We? Which We? CaveCreek is who this thread is about, specifically their CDN service with h264 flash 3 streaming technology.

tony286 · 05-15-2008, 02:15 PM

Lets see how your members embrace it,we dont have to your members have to.

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Lets see how your members embrace it,we dont have to your members have to.

Hmm seems like Youtube has done well with no downloads. EVERY paysite needs to start to switch stuff up. Leave them downloadable vids, but make a much larger watermark. Make the downloadable quality less, and streaming higher. Unless you want to continue giving away your product when the customer is only renting.

Why some of you guys WANT to continue to embrace a flawed model, then whine about content theft is beyond me. Want higher sales? Keep your content IN your members area. Pics give them that, but videos uh uh.

Barefootsies · 05-15-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Keep your content IN your members area. Pics give them that, but videos uh uh.

PowerCum · 05-15-2008, 03:24 PM

The "HD" stays perhaps because it's larger than 320x240. True HD is 1920x1080... and trust me... it's a 9 Mbps stream minimum.

Their services cost way much than just stacking more servers to my cluster and I am completely sure they cannot push several GBps nor can scale properly when we are talking about 3 - 5 TB of content.
It's a nice service for a small program, but nothing decent to use when you are managing lots of content and need huge BW.

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerCum

The "HD" stays perhaps because it's larger than 320x240. True HD is 1920x1080... and trust me... it's a 9 Mbps stream minimum.

Their services cost way much than just stacking more servers to my cluster and I am completely sure they cannot push several GBps nor can scale properly when we are talking about 3 - 5 TB of content.
It's a nice service for a small program, but nothing decent to use when you are managing lots of content and need huge BW.

Thats wrong. Huge bandwidth is EXACTLY why you would want the service. You need to research more what CDN is. If you want hit up Bryan L and he will give you the full lowdown, but not only does this service increase the speed of your content getting to your members you also save A LOT of bandwidth. So normally a customer would have to download the full file to view the end of the video. Do you realize how many customer goto the end of a video to see the cumshot? Btw in my members area Im pusing 854x480 which can be opened to full screen viewing and looks awesome. 854x480 is 480p I can push 720p and it still looks beautiful.

Forget what you know about quality vs bitrate until you encode to h264. Its a whole different scale. The vids you see on that page are only 1.5mpbs. So not only do you save bandwidth due to ability to scrub through vid without downloading full file, you also have much smaller file sizes with the h264.

And a quick deal on the cdn. It has nothing to do with clustering servers. This is about delivering the content to your customer from a location that is closer to them. Closer Datacenter means faster file speed. Again Bryan L can explain whatever you need to know about this service.

Btw I only shoot in HD so I know all about it, but you have to compromise sometimes. Call it whatever you want, but delivering your content to your customer at the HIGHEST quality possible is where it is.

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

That is a sexy sexy man right dare..

tony286 · 05-15-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Hmm seems like Youtube has done well with no downloads. EVERY paysite needs to start to switch stuff up. Leave them downloadable vids, but make a much larger watermark. Make the downloadable quality less, and streaming higher. Unless you want to continue giving away your product when the customer is only renting.

Why some of you guys WANT to continue to embrace a flawed model, then whine about content theft is beyond me. Want higher sales? Keep your content IN your members area. Pics give them that, but videos uh uh.

Its easy to have that attitude when you dont have many members. lol Lets see how your members deal with it.

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Its easy to have that attitude when you dont have many members. lol Lets see how your members deal with it.

How they deal with instant video playback? How they deal with super high quality video? Sorry I dont have many 56k customers or people using pentium II computers. We dont aim at that market, and those customers would be unlikely to be able to even playback our downloadable clips.

Im going to open a gas station specializing in LEADED gas only next. Fuck that technology shit.

All I know is continue on with the old ways. Ill move forward and ahead, and try to provide MY members with the highest quality content, and fastest delivery I can. All the while trying to break through the "you get all my shit for a rental" model.

tony286 · 05-15-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

How they deal with instant video playback? How they deal with super high quality video? Sorry I dont have many 56k customers or people using pentium II computers. We dont aim at that market, and those customers would be unlikely to be able to even playback our downloadable clips.

Im going to open a gas station specializing in LEADED gas only next. Fuck that technology shit.

All I know is continue on with the old ways. Ill move forward and ahead, and try to provide MY members with the highest quality content, and fastest delivery I can. All the while trying to break through the "you get all my shit for a rental" model.

nice words lets see how your members embrace it.

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

nice words lets see how your members embrace it.

Ya again tell me why they wouldnt? Cause they cant download and keep our videos forever for 27.95?

Again embrace the 1996 model that you are stuck it.

tony286 · 05-15-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ya again tell me why they wouldnt? Cause they cant download and keep our videos forever for 27.95?

Again embrace the 1996 model that you are stuck it.

You tell them that they are embracing a old model when they charge back and cancel. lol

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-15-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Someone should send Stinkyfingerz a tube of Ass Kisser breath spray:

Stinky's attempts to reinvent himself after his former employer outed him as a thief and liar are pretty pathetic, as are his lame, "hey, see you at the next show", posts to people he only met maybe once or twice at the handful of shows that he has attended...

Big Balla Stinky's exclusive site traffic (from today):

Daisymarie18.com has a traffic rank of: 1,054,730

Nerdynora.com has a traffic rank of: 1,721,925

Gold Jerry, Gold!!!

ADG

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

You tell them that they are embracing a old model when they charge back and cancel. lol

Go look at mainstream. Netflix, Vongo, etc are all going to start letting you keep the movie for ever for 9.95 a month. As many as you can download. They probably get a lot of chargebacks too huh?

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Someone should Stinkyfingerz a tube of Ass Kisser breath spray:

Stinky's attempts to reinvent himself after his former employer outed him as a thief and liar are pretty pathetic, as are his lame, "hey, see you at the next show", posts to people he only met maybe once or twice at the handful of shows that he has attended...

Big Balla Stinky's exclusive site traffic (from today):

Daisymarie18.com has a traffic rank of: 1,054,730

Nerdynora.com has a traffic rank of: 1,721,925

Gold Jerry, Gold!!!

ADG

Well thanks for the bump.

Btw Ive been to I think 7 or 8 shows now. I am sure Ill see you at one eventually. Ill keep my eyes open for the long gray haired hippy. Ass kisser? Hmm interesting. Ill just keep doing what I am doing. There are a few people out there that think I am doing some pretty cool stuff. Their opinions of me matter a tad more than your opinions of me do.

tony286 · 05-15-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Go look at mainstream. Netflix, Vongo, etc are all going to start letting you keep the movie for ever for 9.95 a month. As many as you can download. They probably get a lot of chargebacks too huh?

You could talk the way you do if you had a track record of success. You come off like a know it all and its sad because when Ive spoke to you on icq your a very nice guy.

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

You could talk the way you do if you had a track record of success. You come off like a know it all and its sad because when Ive spoke to you on icq your a very nice guy.

Guess we will just have to see then huh?

aico · 05-15-2008, 07:49 PM

It's better to be quiet and thought of as an idiot, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt.

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

It's better to be quiet and thought of as an idiot, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt.

You should of refrained from posting then huh?

mx8829 · 05-15-2008, 08:07 PM

people who are willing to pay for content will pay for content, people who likes to wack for freeshit will continue to find ways to wack for free shit.

That is the truth

Sly · 05-15-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Go look at mainstream. Netflix, Vongo, etc are all going to start letting you keep the movie for ever for 9.95 a month. As many as you can download. They probably get a lot of chargebacks too huh?

That is not how Netflix works.

You pay a monthly fee and get unlimited access to their online archive, yes. You cannot download movies. The movies are quite grainy. And the selection of movies is extremely limited.

I don't know about Vongo.

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

That is not how Netflix works.

You pay a monthly fee and get unlimited access to their online archive, yes. You cannot download movies. The movies are quite grainy. And the selection of movies is extremely limited.

I don't know about Vongo.

Netflix quality for me was just about perfect opened full screen on a 22" monitor eh. You cannot download or keep the content.

Sly · 05-15-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Netflix quality for me was just about perfect opened full screen on a 22" monitor eh. You cannot download or keep the content.

Just about perfect? LOL, sorry, get your eyes checked. It's totally watchable and I won't stop watching it, but it is not a quality stream.

stickyfingerz · 05-15-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Just about perfect? LOL, sorry, get your eyes checked. It's totally watchable and I won't stop watching it, but it is not a quality stream.

You know the quality goes up or down depending upon your connection right?

Maybe you have a bad connection? Dunno.

pocketkangaroo · 05-15-2008, 09:53 PM

I think the Netflix stream is pretty good. They are also supposed to be linking up with the XBox 360 and PS3 pretty soon.

I do have to say that I don't think you can compare what Netflix does to a porn site though. With Netflix, you're talking about a company that has to deal with the rules and regulations of each individual studio. The choice to stream and not allow downloads isn't made by Netflix, it's made by the studios. It's the reason they aren't on the Mac at the moment. With a porn site, the content is yours and you're making the decision on whether you want to leave it open to the public for download.

madfuck · 05-15-2008, 09:57 PM

thks for the info....keep up the info!!!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-15-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ill just keep doing what I am doing. There are a few people out there that think I am doing some pretty cool stuff.

Yeah, that's "pretty cool stuff" you are doing on your exclusive sites:

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Daisymarie18.com has a traffic rank of: 1,054,730

Nerdynora.com has a traffic rank of: 1,721,925

Pretty cool stuff on your "20k Gold" contest too, which no one earned a single penny worth of gold on (even though it only took 2-3 sales a day to win, "GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!)...

Amazing how none of the (in your words) "people out there that think I am doing some pretty cool stuff", have come to your defense in this thread - better step up your brown-nosing Stinky...

ADG

stickyfingerz · 05-16-2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Yeah, that's "pretty cool stuff" you are doing on your exclusive sites:

Pretty cool stuff on your "20k Gold" contest too, which no one earned a single penny worth of gold on (even though it only took 2-3 sales a day to win, "GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!)...

Amazing how none of the (in your words) "people out there that think I am doing some pretty cool stuff", have come to your defense in this thread - better step up your brown-nosing Stinky...

ADG

You are a snide little man, and karma is a bitch. Nuff said about that.

Back to the subject at hand, and not the offtrack one captain howdy here is trying to aim for.

Speed of content delivery, savings on bandwidth, and being able to keep your content "YOUR" content.

05-14-2008, 11:30 AM	#1
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Whats more important to you? Securing your content, Speed of delivery of your content , saving money on bandwidth, or... All 3? I have to say that this is the most impressed I have been with inroads for pushing our industry in the right direction. So impressed that we are switching over all our video content to CaveCreek Cdn. So here are some of the advantages. 1. Your customer doesnt have to download the full file to scrub forward or back in the video. What does that mean to a program? Lots of costs saved on bandwidth. I think that alone is an awesome advantage. 2. Speed to your customer is amazing. They are served your content from a location that is closest to them. Another huge advantage. A customer with cock in hand doesnt want to wait for buffering, they want to wank it. A happy customer is a customer that will rebill. 3. Security. Those of us with exclusive content dont want it to be given away for free obviously. If a customer loves the content and can't find it anywhere else he is more likely to pop those credit card numbers in. I know this sounds kind of salesy but rest assured I am not getting paid for this. That is a testament to how much I believe in this service. There is a free 15 day trial so its not going to cost you a dime to find out on your own. http://www.cavecreek.com/cdn.php you can read bit more about it there. And here is a link to both unencrypted and encrypted streams for you to see for yourself. Make sure you scrub through the progress bar and see how fast it jumps to the spot. http://www.cavecreek.com/HD-Flash-CDN.php Last edited by stickyfingerz; 05-14-2008 at 11:32 AM..

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PowerCum CjOverkill Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Woldwide Posts: 1,328	The "HD" stays perhaps because it's larger than 320x240. True HD is 1920x1080... and trust me... it's a 9 Mbps stream minimum. Their services cost way much than just stacking more servers to my cluster and I am completely sure they cannot push several GBps nor can scale properly when we are talking about 3 - 5 TB of content. It's a nice service for a small program, but nothing decent to use when you are managing lots of content and need huge BW. __________________ CjOverkill Traffic Trading Script Free, secure and fast traffic trading script. Get your copy now

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05-15-2008, 11:43 AM	#4
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Programs not moving in this direction will fall behind I think. So where are the "you can't secure content" people? I forgot to put, "Would you hit it, Pics inside, Vids inside, and Lensman is an asshole in the title. DOH!

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Lets see how your members embrace it,we dont have to your members have to.

05-15-2008, 07:49 PM	#23
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	It's better to be quiet and thought of as an idiot, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt.

05-15-2008, 09:53 PM	#30
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I think the Netflix stream is pretty good. They are also supposed to be linking up with the XBox 360 and PS3 pretty soon. I do have to say that I don't think you can compare what Netflix does to a porn site though. With Netflix, you're talking about a company that has to deal with the rules and regulations of each individual studio. The choice to stream and not allow downloads isn't made by Netflix, it's made by the studios. It's the reason they aren't on the Mac at the moment. With a porn site, the content is yours and you're making the decision on whether you want to leave it open to the public for download.

05-15-2008, 09:57 PM	#31
madfuck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,032	thks for the info....keep up the info!!!