TubeTitans BS
 

I signed up for the program because it says this on the webmaster tour:

HOWEVER:

First of all the join page is an AVS (requiring a CC... which I don't have a problem with)... what I have a problem with is the prechecked crossjoin for adult date link and this little note at the bottom:

Watch what you promote... it's things like this that piss off surfers and REMEMBER... this might be a bookmarker who buys memberships.

Dang... just started to promote that too. :[

"Also get access to three days free to Adult Date Link. If you remain a member after the three days, the membership will recur at thirty four dollars and eighty six cents per month thereafter unless cancelled. This offer may be substituted with a similar offer if you are declined by the service provider."

Notes* - I agree to the terms and conditions and to the free access to VIP Speed Smut. After three days this access recurs at thirty-nine dollars eighty seven cents per month thereafter unless cancelled. This will be discretely listed as "Web2Bill"

Awwwwww. Please spell "canceled" correctly at least.

Ones i see the site i was sure it would kill my valuable traffic
sites like this are good for warez site owners, and there are still a lot among us.
I don`t sell my book markers for a shitty 25 bucks

I've noticed a lot of similar sponsors...
Didn't want to post anything about it but that don't seems fair to me...
And there are even worse examples...

i like how they use text instead of $00.00...........

Another entry for shitlist

:2 cents:

i saw that in the first thread the day they released

I noticed this days ago and figured no one would care. Also as marketsmart said they mix the price in there with words instead of using numbers hoping no one will notice and just signup.

That sux. oh well. Nice try :)

Juiccccccccccccyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyy

that sucks

great biz I guess. How many refunds/cb would you get after 3 months?

what has he to do with this? He is just a tool who can be bought to get views for a new program. His responsibility ends as soon he press the SUBMIT REPLAY button.

I had noticed the adult date link precheck, but the other one got past me. Reminds me of how the old free avs programs used to work under the guise of age verification.

I don't think what he is doing is illegal, im sure he & is lawyer had discussions about this issue. It's written right in front of you're eyes damn it in black & white. Im sure most of the surfers with CC joining is site read it or unchecked the check mark. Yeah you might get the average joe that will get a surprise after 3 days & get a heart attack lol. Thats what i call being innovative... u got to like these jews they know how to get the cash;)

The WEG tube sites are doing the exact same thing. Seriously, how the fuck do you think this is supposed to work guys? All "free" payouts work this way.

This was mentioned several times in the "grand opening thread"
One more way to fuck customers and one more nail in this industries coffin.
Things like this kill off far more customers then they create and cause more and more processing concerns.
However it seems to be part of the new biz model that everyone is moving to.

Then perhaps they need to find a better way to make free payouts work. Common fucking sense will tell you that someone signing up for soemthign FREE is NOT interested in PAYING for anything. So really the only way they are making money is on the fact they hope the surfer doesn't notice the pre-check cross sales. In my book that's FRAUD.

I'm not saying it's right, these programs have found ways to bill people regardless. Most programs in this business are only built to bill customers, not providing a service. That's the whole point of the hidden cross sales. FACT: Members DO NOT chargeback or complain when fooled by these practices, at least nowhere near the levels where you all think. These are the dumbest members out there, trying to get something for nothing. Fuck them, they get what they deserve for wanting to be entertained and get off for free.


Hows this:

Why the fuck would you, as an affiliate promote a "free" program? It's because you think that selling something "free" is easier than something paid. Doesn't anyone wonder where the money for the payouts come from on free programs?

Every one of these programs would fail if people STOPPED sending traffic to them. But the reality is there are as many or more shady traffic sources that send their traffic to these places, and affiliates that DO NOT FUCKING CARE.

Fuck everyone that tries to take what they think is the easy path. They get what they deserve. :2 cents:

Stupid ideas like these are a great oportunity.

Don't promote the shady programs, and watch your traffic/bookmarkers grow at the expensive of anyone foolish enough to slaughter his golden goose this way.

As toots says, it's a walk not a sprint.

stfu please. as you know what "traffic" is.

You have spoken the right words
It categorizes these kind of programs from the ones that need some actually creative webmaster input. I spit on easy sellers, in the long run ( weeks or so ) you sold your traffic to a fuck who is going to play with it for months and months.

I somewhat see these kind of concepts as traffic laundries for websites with doubtable traffic, warez, tubes, etc etc etc
I already see a warez site asking a FREE SIGNUP with FREE PORN MOVIES before you get access to that o so dangerous directories they fill with fucking illegal software. Ones i was searching for a progie to unlock my blackberry, and i was slammed with porn access pages before i could even download it. Result, my black berry is still locked, i stay FUCKING FAR AWAY from japperdiejap webmasters like this!

Have a great day ya all

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh If ya wanna see a "Tool" just go look in the mirror

I see a good looking guy who does not have to play with his face to stay attractive.

Interesting... like slowing down to see a horrific car crash.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I doubt that sweetcheeks


btw you are a hypocrite I just looked at "some" of your sites and some of your sponsors...

You might want to RELOOK at your vieewpoints as it seems some of your "SPONSORS" are doing naughtierrrr thingsss :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


HYPOCRITEEEEE :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

out of 160 sponsors i push, plus 300 CCbill sponsors i currently handle, i have no problem with 1 of them. You might want to reconsider your point of view on your statement, meaning, when 100 have a problem with one sponsor, does not mean i have to be a sheep and follow those 100.
I do not mind to be called a Hypocrite, not at all, those are the people who live longest. If i find 1 problem with my sponsor, i delete him of the list, what is so stupid about that?

Have a great day Juice... do not spoil your trouble and your valuble time on me. I`m just a simple traffic tool... But hell, who needs traffic these days :thumbsup

You are pretty clueless arentcha.

That's okay, you got an asshole, what do you need a head for.

Prooofffff!!!

Wow i dont belong to the juicy club cause i deal with sponsors he spits on. Well can not make everyone happy can i ? And funny is, when i would drop them, he has NOTHING better to offer then some traffic laundry concepts. So either way, he looses. I rather take a hit from someone who has proved his marketing skills, instead of feeling some wind coming out of his mouth. Not important to me, Juicy is pure a spamm bot, makes posts to get noticed, a pure attention whore who makes his money with it. I bet a lot of people envy him for this, well, also this is not my problem :) every board needs an attention whore.

The join is free, the trials are free, the user gets emails on all trials and can decide on their own if they want to cancel. This program will work with your great bookmark traffic, but in reality it is crafted to work best on junk freeloader traffic (tube, 404, blind click, circle jerk, hot link, etc). We're getting WAY better than average conversions on this kind of traffic. These were people who probably won't buy from your other sponsors anyways. This is an excellent way to make some money off of them

thats not free its a trial:2 cents:

It's not a trial. It's free.

You might want to check this link below next time.

http://www.spellcheck.net/cgi-bin/sp...ring=cancelled

ADL Colin, saying it like it is. Nothing wrong with that. Cheers.