TubeTitans BS - GoFuckYourself.com

nation-x · 09-02-2008, 02:22 PM

I signed up for the program because it says this on the webmaster tour:

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Sign up right now and get paid on Free Lifetime Registrations. The conversions are like nothing you have ever seen. We aren't going to try and win you over with flashy graphics or loud music. Our program does the talking for us! We don't have a bunch of goofy rules. Simply promote one of the hottest sales magnets on the web, however you like, and get paid. It really is just that easy. No frills, no gimmicks, just money in your pocket.

HOWEVER:

First of all the join page is an AVS (requiring a CC... which I don't have a problem with)... what I have a problem with is the prechecked crossjoin for adult date link and this little note at the bottom:

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Notes* - I agree to the terms and conditions and to the free access to VIP Speed Smut. After three days this access recurs at thirty-nine dollars eighty seven cents per month thereafter unless cancelled. This will be discretely listed as "Web2Bill"

Watch what you promote... it's things like this that piss off surfers and REMEMBER... this might be a bookmarker who buys memberships.

BradM · 09-02-2008, 02:23 PM

Dang... just started to promote that too. :[

BradM · 09-02-2008, 02:25 PM

"Also get access to three days free to Adult Date Link. If you remain a member after the three days, the membership will recur at thirty four dollars and eighty six cents per month thereafter unless cancelled. This offer may be substituted with a similar offer if you are declined by the service provider."

Notes* - I agree to the terms and conditions and to the free access to VIP Speed Smut. After three days this access recurs at thirty-nine dollars eighty seven cents per month thereafter unless cancelled. This will be discretely listed as "Web2Bill"

Awwwwww. Please spell "canceled" correctly at least.

Tjeezers · 09-02-2008, 02:42 PM

Ones i see the site i was sure it would kill my valuable traffic
sites like this are good for warez site owners, and there are still a lot among us.
I don`t sell my book markers for a shitty 25 bucks

HomerSimpson · 09-02-2008, 04:03 PM

I've noticed a lot of similar sponsors...
Didn't want to post anything about it but that don't seems fair to me...
And there are even worse examples...

marketsmart · 09-02-2008, 04:16 PM

i like how they use text instead of $00.00...........

Klen · 09-02-2008, 04:26 PM

Another entry for shitlist

Barefootsies · 09-02-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Another entry for shitlist

brassmonkey · 09-02-2008, 04:29 PM

i saw that in the first thread the day they released

cess · 09-02-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

I signed up for the program because it says this on the webmaster tour:

HOWEVER:

First of all the join page is an AVS (requiring a CC... which I don't have a problem with)... what I have a problem with is the prechecked crossjoin for adult date link and this little note at the bottom:

Watch what you promote... it's things like this that piss off surfers and REMEMBER... this might be a bookmarker who buys memberships.

I noticed this days ago and figured no one would care. Also as marketsmart said they mix the price in there with words instead of using numbers hoping no one will notice and just signup.

LeRoy · 09-02-2008, 04:40 PM

That sux. oh well. Nice try

klaze · 09-02-2008, 05:43 PM

Juiccccccccccccyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyy

fatfoo · 09-02-2008, 06:16 PM

that sucks

Phil · 09-02-2008, 07:15 PM

great biz I guess. How many refunds/cb would you get after 3 months?

Tjeezers · 09-02-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by klaze

Juiccccccccccccyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyy

what has he to do with this? He is just a tool who can be bought to get views for a new program. His responsibility ends as soon he press the SUBMIT REPLAY button.

lazycash · 09-02-2008, 09:46 PM

I had noticed the adult date link precheck, but the other one got past me. Reminds me of how the old free avs programs used to work under the guise of age verification.

pornjudge · 09-02-2008, 10:39 PM

I don't think what he is doing is illegal, im sure he & is lawyer had discussions about this issue. It's written right in front of you're eyes damn it in black & white. Im sure most of the surfers with CC joining is site read it or unchecked the check mark. Yeah you might get the average joe that will get a surprise after 3 days & get a heart attack lol. Thats what i call being innovative... u got to like these jews they know how to get the cash;)

commonsense · 09-03-2008, 02:44 AM

The WEG tube sites are doing the exact same thing. Seriously, how the fuck do you think this is supposed to work guys? All "free" payouts work this way.

JimmiDean · 09-03-2008, 03:35 AM

This was mentioned several times in the "grand opening thread"
One more way to fuck customers and one more nail in this industries coffin.
Things like this kill off far more customers then they create and cause more and more processing concerns.
However it seems to be part of the new biz model that everyone is moving to.

GatorB · 09-03-2008, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

The WEG tube sites are doing the exact same thing. Seriously, how the fuck do you think this is supposed to work guys? All "free" payouts work this way.

Then perhaps they need to find a better way to make free payouts work. Common fucking sense will tell you that someone signing up for soemthign FREE is NOT interested in PAYING for anything. So really the only way they are making money is on the fact they hope the surfer doesn't notice the pre-check cross sales. In my book that's FRAUD.

commonsense · 09-03-2008, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Then perhaps they need to find a better way to make free payouts work. Common fucking sense will tell you that someone signing up for soemthign FREE is NOT interested in PAYING for anything. So really the only way they are making money is on the fact they hope the surfer doesn't notice the pre-check cross sales. In my book that's FRAUD.

I'm not saying it's right, these programs have found ways to bill people regardless. Most programs in this business are only built to bill customers, not providing a service. That's the whole point of the hidden cross sales. FACT: Members DO NOT chargeback or complain when fooled by these practices, at least nowhere near the levels where you all think. These are the dumbest members out there, trying to get something for nothing. Fuck them, they get what they deserve for wanting to be entertained and get off for free.

Hows this:

Why the fuck would you, as an affiliate promote a "free" program? It's because you think that selling something "free" is easier than something paid. Doesn't anyone wonder where the money for the payouts come from on free programs?

Every one of these programs would fail if people STOPPED sending traffic to them. But the reality is there are as many or more shady traffic sources that send their traffic to these places, and affiliates that DO NOT FUCKING CARE.

Fuck everyone that tries to take what they think is the easy path. They get what they deserve.

fluffygrrl · 09-03-2008, 04:20 AM

Stupid ideas like these are a great oportunity.

Don't promote the shady programs, and watch your traffic/bookmarkers grow at the expensive of anyone foolish enough to slaughter his golden goose this way.

As toots says, it's a walk not a sprint.

Phil · 09-03-2008, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Stupid ideas like these are a great oportunity.

Don't promote the shady programs, and watch your traffic/bookmarkers grow at the expensive of anyone foolish enough to slaughter his golden goose this way.

As toots says, it's a walk not a sprint.

stfu please. as you know what "traffic" is.

Tjeezers · 09-03-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

Why the fuck would you, as an affiliate promote a "free" program? It's because you think that selling something "free" is easier than something paid. Doesn't anyone wonder where the money for the payouts come from on free programs?

Every one of these programs would fail if people STOPPED sending traffic to them. But the reality is there are as many or more shady traffic sources that send their traffic to these places, and affiliates that DO NOT FUCKING CARE.

Fuck everyone that tries to take what they think is the easy path. They get what they deserve.

You have spoken the right words
It categorizes these kind of programs from the ones that need some actually creative webmaster input. I spit on easy sellers, in the long run ( weeks or so ) you sold your traffic to a fuck who is going to play with it for months and months.

I somewhat see these kind of concepts as traffic laundries for websites with doubtable traffic, warez, tubes, etc etc etc
I already see a warez site asking a FREE SIGNUP with FREE PORN MOVIES before you get access to that o so dangerous directories they fill with fucking illegal software. Ones i was searching for a progie to unlock my blackberry, and i was slammed with porn access pages before i could even download it. Result, my black berry is still locked, i stay FUCKING FAR AWAY from japperdiejap webmasters like this!

Have a great day ya all

Juicy D. Links · 09-03-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sex2Have

what has he to do with this? He is just a tool who can be bought to get views for a new program. His responsibility ends as soon he press the SUBMIT REPLAY button.

If ya wanna see a "Tool" just go look in the mirror

Tjeezers · 09-03-2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

If ya wanna see a "Tool" just go look in the mirror

I see a good looking guy who does not have to play with his face to stay attractive.

Iron Fist · 09-03-2008, 06:43 AM

Interesting... like slowing down to see a horrific car crash.

Juicy D. Links · 09-03-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sex2Have

I see a good looking guy who does not have to play with his face to stay attractive.

I doubt that sweetcheeks

btw you are a hypocrite I just looked at "some" of your sites and some of your sponsors...

You might want to RELOOK at your vieewpoints as it seems some of your "SPONSORS" are doing naughtierrrr thingsss

HYPOCRITEEEEE

Tjeezers · 09-03-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

I doubt that sweetcheeks

btw you are a hypocrite I just looked at "some" of your sites and some of your sponsors...

You might want to RELOOK at your vieewpoints as it seems some of your "SPONSORS" are doing naughtierrrr thingsss

HYPOCRITEEEEE

out of 160 sponsors i push, plus 300 CCbill sponsors i currently handle, i have no problem with 1 of them. You might want to reconsider your point of view on your statement, meaning, when 100 have a problem with one sponsor, does not mean i have to be a sheep and follow those 100.
I do not mind to be called a Hypocrite, not at all, those are the people who live longest. If i find 1 problem with my sponsor, i delete him of the list, what is so stupid about that?

Have a great day Juice... do not spoil your trouble and your valuble time on me. I`m just a simple traffic tool... But hell, who needs traffic these days

fluffygrrl · 09-03-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

You might want to RELOOK at your vieewpoints as it seems some of your "SPONSORS" are doing naughtierrrr thingsss

HYPOCRITEEEEE

You are pretty clueless arentcha.

That's okay, you got an asshole, what do you need a head for.

MoreMagic · 09-03-2008, 08:54 AM

Prooofffff!!!

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

I doubt that sweetcheeks

btw you are a hypocrite I just looked at "some" of your sites and some of your sponsors...

You might want to RELOOK at your vieewpoints as it seems some of your "SPONSORS" are doing naughtierrrr thingsss

HYPOCRITEEEEE

Tjeezers · 09-03-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Prooofffff!!!

Wow i dont belong to the juicy club cause i deal with sponsors he spits on. Well can not make everyone happy can i ? And funny is, when i would drop them, he has NOTHING better to offer then some traffic laundry concepts. So either way, he looses. I rather take a hit from someone who has proved his marketing skills, instead of feeling some wind coming out of his mouth. Not important to me, Juicy is pure a spamm bot, makes posts to get noticed, a pure attention whore who makes his money with it. I bet a lot of people envy him for this, well, also this is not my problem

every board needs an attention whore.

ADL Colin · 09-03-2008, 10:44 AM

The join is free, the trials are free, the user gets emails on all trials and can decide on their own if they want to cancel. This program will work with your great bookmark traffic, but in reality it is crafted to work best on junk freeloader traffic (tube, 404, blind click, circle jerk, hot link, etc). We're getting WAY better than average conversions on this kind of traffic. These were people who probably won't buy from your other sponsors anyways. This is an excellent way to make some money off of them

brassmonkey · 09-03-2008, 10:56 AM

thats not free its a trial

ADL Colin · 09-03-2008, 12:05 PM

It's not a trial. It's free.

sortie · 09-03-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

"Awwwwww. Please spell "canceled" correctly at least.

You might want to check this link below next time.

http://www.spellcheck.net/cgi-bin/sp...ring=cancelled

fluffygrrl · 09-03-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

The join is free, the trials are free, the user gets emails on all trials and can decide on their own if they want to cancel. This program will work with your great bookmark traffic, but in reality it is crafted to work best on junk freeloader traffic (tube, 404, blind click, circle jerk, hot link, etc). We're getting WAY better than average conversions on this kind of traffic. These were people who probably won't buy from your other sponsors anyways. This is an excellent way to make some money off of them

ADL Colin, saying it like it is. Nothing wrong with that. Cheers.

09-02-2008, 02:42 PM	#4
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09-02-2008, 04:03 PM	#5
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09-02-2008, 04:29 PM	#9
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09-02-2008, 04:40 PM	#11
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09-02-2008, 06:16 PM	#13
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09-02-2008, 02:23 PM	#2
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Dang... just started to promote that too. :[

09-02-2008, 02:25 PM	#3
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	"Also get access to three days free to Adult Date Link. If you remain a member after the three days, the membership will recur at thirty four dollars and eighty six cents per month thereafter unless cancelled. This offer may be substituted with a similar offer if you are declined by the service provider." Notes* - I agree to the terms and conditions and to the free access to VIP Speed Smut. After three days this access recurs at thirty-nine dollars eighty seven cents per month thereafter unless cancelled. This will be discretely listed as "Web2Bill" Awwwwww. Please spell "canceled" correctly at least.

09-02-2008, 04:16 PM	#6
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	i like how they use text instead of $00.00...........

09-02-2008, 04:26 PM	#7
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Another entry for shitlist

09-02-2008, 05:43 PM	#12
klaze So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: Adult Marketing Mecca Posts: 2,167	Juiccccccccccccyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyy

09-02-2008, 07:15 PM	#14
Phil Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,659	great biz I guess. How many refunds/cb would you get after 3 months? __________________ Ask Phil

09-02-2008, 09:46 PM	#16
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	I had noticed the adult date link precheck, but the other one got past me. Reminds me of how the old free avs programs used to work under the guise of age verification.

09-02-2008, 10:39 PM	#17
pornjudge So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upmywomansass Posts: 2,214	I don't think what he is doing is illegal, im sure he & is lawyer had discussions about this issue. It's written right in front of you're eyes damn it in black & white. Im sure most of the surfers with CC joining is site read it or unchecked the check mark. Yeah you might get the average joe that will get a surprise after 3 days & get a heart attack lol. Thats what i call being innovative... u got to like these jews they know how to get the cash;)

09-03-2008, 02:44 AM	#18
commonsense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,790	The WEG tube sites are doing the exact same thing. Seriously, how the fuck do you think this is supposed to work guys? All "free" payouts work this way.

09-03-2008, 03:35 AM	#19
JimmiDean Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Margarittaville Posts: 3,433	This was mentioned several times in the "grand opening thread" One more way to fuck customers and one more nail in this industries coffin. Things like this kill off far more customers then they create and cause more and more processing concerns. However it seems to be part of the new biz model that everyone is moving to. __________________ My God there's Porn on here! Still on the Beach !!!

09-03-2008, 04:20 AM	#22
fluffygrrl So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,187	Stupid ideas like these are a great oportunity. Don't promote the shady programs, and watch your traffic/bookmarkers grow at the expensive of anyone foolish enough to slaughter his golden goose this way. As toots says, it's a walk not a sprint.

09-03-2008, 06:43 AM	#27
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Interesting... like slowing down to see a horrific car crash. __________________ i like waffles

09-03-2008, 10:44 AM	#33
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	The join is free, the trials are free, the user gets emails on all trials and can decide on their own if they want to cancel. This program will work with your great bookmark traffic, but in reality it is crafted to work best on junk freeloader traffic (tube, 404, blind click, circle jerk, hot link, etc). We're getting WAY better than average conversions on this kind of traffic. These were people who probably won't buy from your other sponsors anyways. This is an excellent way to make some money off of them __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

09-03-2008, 10:56 AM	#34
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,053	thats not free its a trial __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

09-03-2008, 12:05 PM	#35
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	It's not a trial. It's free. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"