TrafficHolder.com - Have you ever been dissatisfied with the traffic you bought?

[TrafficHolder]

Dear Traffic Buyers,

Traffic Holder presents a system which helps discovering the best traffic
source for your site.

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Have you ever been dissatisfied with the traffic you bought?
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If you buy traffic for your site whether sporadically or on a regular basis,
how often it is that you are dissatisfied with the results? Sometimes the
seller (traffic broker) promises to deliver high quality, productive
traffic, but in reality you get not quite the thing.

Now you can choose the best traffic for your website and find out how this
or that traffic type performs on your website before buying any traffic at all.

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How it works?
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Many buyers know sometimes you have to spend plenty of time, money and
effort to test different traffic sources and find the one or the ones which
deliver the best traffic.

We have tried a variety of traffic testing methods, and the conclusion is
that a universal test would not give the full picture, because same types of
traffic can perform differently on different sites, even within one and the
same niche. This is why buying the same kind of traffic and sending it to
different sites gives differing results.

Because of that, we have developed a system which gives you an opportunity
to test traffic from different sources on YOUR site.

This personal testing system will create an identical copy of your site,
place it on our servers, and start testing the traffic.

Having tested all the possible traffic sources, our system will produce a
testing report. Thus you will know how this or that traffic type performs on
your site before actually placing an order.

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How much it costs?
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We have implemented this system to increase customer satisfaction and make
sure our clients keep cooperating with us on a regular basis. We do not
require any payment from you to let you use the system. The test will be run
for free.

To complete the testing, we require traffic to be sent to the copy of your
site. So, to make use of the test, all you have to do is pay for the traffic
used during the test. In fact, you will be paying for the traffic which will
be sent to a copy of your site. All the links on this duplicated site will
remain intact, so the money spent on this traffic will partially return to
you as sales on your site.

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How precise are the results?
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Our preliminary tests have shown that the results are quite precise, which
means the traffic productivity on your site will be similar to what our
tests show. The fluctuations may be up to 10%, but on the whole the
information you get will be accurate enough to be used.

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How many traffic sources should be tested on your site?
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Our recommendation is testing 500 sources upwards. Though, you may test 100
sources to familiarize yourself with the system. The more you test, the more
sources of high-performing traffic for your site you will discover. For
major buyers, we recommend testing 800-1,000 sources.

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What if neither of the sources meets your requirements after the test?
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We cannot guarantee your satisfaction with the test results. We will deliver
results based on actual traffic performance on your site. If neither of the
sources show satisfactory productivity on your site, it means you will
probably have to find other traffic sources, or optimize your site. We
recommend using the test feature after the sorted image rotation on your
site is implemented.

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Can your system be used for paysites or webcam portals?
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Yes, it can. In this case, we recommend using the feature of evaluating the
productivity of filtered traffic. The price for this traffic type is
slightly higher, though this is the type of traffic used for testing
performance on subscription-based sites.

Our testing system would not be able to track sales on your site; nevertheless,
it will find the sources which send visitors most interested in your
products. This normally leads to good sales results, though this is
something beyond our scope of guarantee.

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How long does the test take?
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As a rule, a test will be completed in 24-72 hours after you place an order.
In peak load times we may disable the order form. In this case you need to
wait and place your order on the next day.

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I have bought some traffic and I was not satisfied. Are you offering the same
traffic now?
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Yes, we are offering the same traffic, but the difference is that this
traffic will be filtered and sorted according to its actual productivity on
your site. Often the buyers are unhappy with the [mixed] traffic they buy,
or with traffic from sources not selected properly. Our test system will
detect the very kinds of traffic which your site needs (provided such
traffic is available in our system).

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Will you return my money if I am dissatisfied with the results?
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Unfortunately, we would not be able to do that, because this money will be spent
on the traffic used during the test. We cannot guarantee your satisfaction
with the results. So, if you place an order, you must assume that traffic
from all the sources may not be suitable for your site. Such risk is minor,
though this is something you have to agree with if you order a test.

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Can I use your system if I own a text-based site or a site in a really
narrow niche?
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Yes, you can use the test feature in this case. But, a chance of optimal
traffic sources being selected for you by the system becomes considerably
lower.

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Why should I pay for testing if I can do that myself?
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Let us emphasize once again that it is not the testing you pay for, but the
traffic sent to a copy of your site, which is required for the test. If you
run a test by yourself, you will have to pay for the traffic, too. If you
are an experienced buyer, it may make more sense for you to use your own
experience; seasoned buyers can judge whether the traffic is suitable for
this or that site before buying. If you do not possess this experience, we
recommend using the test system before actually buying traffic. We want you
to be satisfied with the traffic you buy, this is why we strongly advise you
to test the traffic on your site before completing the deal.

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It looks perfect but I do not think it will work.
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We have done everything we could and used all our knowledge and experience
to develop the kind of system which will help many webmasters conduct their
business successfully. This is something we are interested in just in the
same way as our customers. Thus, offering this feature, we are convinced it
will be useful to you.

Register now and try our New Personal Traffic Testing System at TrafficHolder.com

Thank you,
TH Media LTD
+1 (213) 985-1003

[brassmonkey]

yep i was

[arock10]

please summarize

[Hinc]

Yes, it was well below expectations last time

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by arock10

please summarize

Okay

In brief words, if you are not satisfied with a traffic bought, we can
test traffic at your website and find traffic sources for you that
perform well at your website. Thats all about it.

[version5]

But what you're saying is basically you'll cut out our time of having to test it ourselves. All we will gain from this new feature is that we'll have a bit more time on our hands?

We still pay for the poor blind traffic and realise that it doesnt help at all.

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by version5

We still pay for the poor blind traffic and realise that it doesnt help at all.

No its almost impossible to test 1000 sources at your website in one day.
It will take probably one year (or 2-3 months daily job) from you to do that.


It has been answered in our brief FAQ section:

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I have bought some traffic and I was not satisfied. Are you offering the same
traffic now?
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Yes, we are offering the same traffic, but the difference is that this
traffic will be filtered and sorted according to its actual productivity on
your site. Often the buyers are unhappy with the [mixed] traffic they buy,
or with traffic from sources not selected properly. Our test system will
detect the very kinds of traffic which your site needs (provided such
traffic is available in our system).

I'm glad to hear, some of our recent buyers told us, they've got some sales just
during the test.

[domainguy]

I bought some niche traffic (from every one of the listed sites in my niche - specifically from the sites - not just from the general traffic) including the premium pricing from the "high quality" countries and prod was about 30%. I still have money in my trafficholder account - and would love to find a way to effectively use it (or sell my account to someone who's getting results from TH)

[xxweekxx]

crappy traffic

[FrozenJag]

Im not a supporter of traffic buying or selling really, but I must say that I respect and appreciate when a company is trying to better its product.

Well done.

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by domainguy

I bought some niche traffic (from every one of the listed sites in my niche - specifically from the sites - not just from the general traffic) including the premium pricing from the "high quality" countries and prod was about 30%. I still have money in my trafficholder account - and would love to find a way to effectively use it (or sell my account to someone who's getting results from TH)

If you ever tried to buy skimmed traffic from any other service/broker/website owner?

If you've tried everything niche at TH and nothing is works, I believe your website
should be optimized for skimmed traffic.

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by FrozenJag

Im not a supporter of traffic buying or selling really, but I must say that I respect and appreciate when a company is trying to better its product.

Well done.

Thank you, FrozenJag

Its really all about buyers satisfaction.

[fris]

traffic holder traffic is a waste of time and money, the miost unproductive traffic i have ever bought.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by fris

traffic holder traffic is a waste of time and money, the miost unproductive traffic i have ever bought.

[stonehammer]

looks like there is alot of trafficholder haters here lol

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by fris

traffic holder traffic is a waste of time and money, the miost unproductive traffic i have ever bought.

Fris, that is because of incorrect choose of traffic sources.

As can I see, most of your websites have a little size thumbs, so,
in your case, you will get bad results with mixed traffic. Only
carefully selected traffic (from sites with a little niche thumbnail images)
will provide you good productivity.

I fully understand why you was dissatisfied. Thats why this test system
has been created by us to avoid such problems as you've got.

You got low productive traffic, because you bought traffic to the website
with a little thumbs from the websites with a large and middle-sized thumbs.

This is a frequent mistake, thats why we see some posts from
dissatisfied buyers.

TH is a largest adult traffic broker now and our primary goal is to
satisfy the traffic buyers.

Now, we suggest to unexperienced with skimmed traffic buyer, to
try the test system before buying something.

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by stonehammer

looks like there is alot of trafficholder haters here lol

Yes, unfortunately, you are right

When buyer tries wrong traffic (especially mixed traffic), he gets very
average (and often poor) results. Thats why during the latest few months,
we're focused to find the way to make such buyers happy. Its seems
we've found this way with a new system

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by stonehammer

looks like there is alot of trafficholder haters here lol

I also got, why there is a lot of haters

Check the subject

[lacuna]

I've always been happy with the TH traffic I bought.

[fris]

little size thumbs? since when? what you smoking, i have never used little thumbs

[Jens Van Assterdam]

Nice concept

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by fris

little size thumbs? since when? what you smoking, i have never used little thumbs

Fris, I'm sorry. I wrong detected your account.

However, I see you bought mixed traffic and you last tried ours traffic
at February 2008. Many things changed since this time. You still
continue to blame us, but you have no up-to-date information.

[dFaWebmaster]

bump for you mate...

[stonehammer]

Originally Posted by TrafficHolder

I also got, why there is a lot of haters

Check the subject

it will be interesting to see the test website that TH use to determine seller's productivity

[fris]

Originally Posted by TrafficHolder

Fris, I'm sorry. I wrong detected your account.

However, I see you bought mixed traffic and you last tried ours traffic
at February 2008. Many things changed since this time. You still
continue to blame us, but you have no up-to-date information.

Yet you continue to sell traffic from spyware pushers

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by fris

Yet you continue to sell traffic from spyware pushers

This is an absolutely wrong statement. Any broker sometimes could have
bad sites at its database, because its really very difficult to control and
monitor daily 15000 active domains and 100000 passive domains.

For your information and for better understanding of traffic business, I should say you,
that at any time you will find some "bad" domains at ANY traffic broker.

So if broker provides traffic from 15000 domains, but have one or probably few
domains with malware links, I can say, this broker has a very strong monitoring
system, because normally you will see much higher percentage of "bad" domains
at other brokers

And very important thing - how broker react to your abuse reports.
Our monitoring department and abuse department provides round-the-clock support.

So if we get any report about "bad" domain in our database, you will receive
reply and action will be made within just 10-15 minutes round-the-clock.

Fris, may you show me at least one broker who has no "bad" domains at his
database?

Chokertraffic? FPCtraffic? TrafficAdept? Or probably something else?

Let me see you answer and I'll provide you some more details, so you will better
understand what you writing about

Traffic Broker system is a very complicated system, however, you may
think its very easy to have 100% clean system. Its newbie opinion.
Its not just difficult, its impossible, because broker can't control 15000 websites
in realtime.

Thats why every broker have some percent of bad sites. So the main question
is how much of bad sites in comparison to good sites.

[ez12]

I wish this business was as simple as buying traffic for a hundred bucks and earning two hundred bucks in return. If it really was that easy we wouldn't all be discussing tactics on this board

[fris]

dont buy skimmed traffic solution, clicked is the only way to go

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by fris

dont buy skimmed traffic solution, clicked is the only way to go

Its TRUE statement, because clicked traffic quality usually is better than skimmed, BUT:

1) Clicked traffic usually is not available in large volume
2) Clicked traffic is more expensive than skimmed
3) Skimmed traffic from SOME sources show better productivity
and results than clicked traffic

The test system that we talking here about will be able to discover the
best skimmed traffic sources for buyer. Our experience shows,
sometimes results are even better than with clicked (not skimmed) traffic.

However, if you bought mixed skimmed traffic, I understand why you
was dissatisfied with a skimmed traffic. But it was wrong choice of
traffic source, not traffic type.

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by ez12

I wish this business was as simple as buying traffic for a hundred bucks and earning two hundred bucks in return. If it really was that easy we wouldn't all be discussing tactics on this board

Yes, its not so easy, thats why we highly suggest to test traffic before buying.

Some buyers report us, they are very satisfied with new results after they
bought traffic from suggested by testing system sources.

Please do not think that my goal is to advertise this new solution. We are
currently receiving more testing orders than we able to execute. I just provide
you information as is. So, its really worth to try.

[TrafficHolder]

Originally Posted by stonehammer

it will be interesting to see the test website that TH use to determine seller's productivity

I'm sorry but we can't show this website as it is something that we need to keep secure.

However, universal seller's productivity test will not show accurate results,
because same types of traffic can perform differently on different sites.

[stonehammer]

i have done test on traffic holder's traffic for the pics_babe niche...anyone interested can see this website

http://www.happywarmfeeling.com/sponsors.html

[seeandsee]

I would like to see traffic sellers offering automated "thumb" spots and you pay for impression or click, so visitor see thumbs that reflect your site.

[ravo]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

I would like to see traffic sellers offering automated "thumb" spots and you pay for impression or click, so visitor see thumbs that reflect your site.

We have exactly that at www.buyfpctraffic.com

But, it's pretty popular, as we're sold out of those spots right now.

[tommy72]

I would like to see traffic sellers offering automated "thumb" spots and you pay for impression or click, so visitor see thumbs that reflect your site.

These were exactly my thoughts. I bought Traffic from Trafficholder and my stats did not show one single user doing more than simply entering the page. It´s a personal german site and I bought swiss traffic. My own swiss traffic normally converts like crazy on that site.

[version5]

well i did the test paid for it, then when it was over i thought, right now why the hell did i just waste that money?

no offence but u're traffic didnt seem very productive to me, quite a few people clicked some affiliate links of mine from ur test as well and the sites stats showed that 95% of them closed the window, which was great news.

i definately wont be purchasing any traffic from Traffic Holder ever again - i've tried it with so many different sites and pages over the last year and havent really seen any sucess at all.

[notime]

I used to buy (and test) traffic from all brokers since 1998.
None worked for me. Now, after many years, I know why (finally).
It's about the expectiations the clients has (formerly me myself also).
There is a huge gap between the expensive adwords (adult) and blind traffic and many possibilities in between.

[stonehammer]

i bought traffic to get a tgp started and im satisfied with the prod

seems like it sucked on you guy's paysites / affilate links