Incase I get banned, this is why

[munki]

50 bannings...

[will76]

John you just don't stop. You keep going and going and going no matter how wrong you are, your pride just wont let you accept the fact you are wrong. I have a problem with keeping things going too, but christ man, I would never do it when I am wrong about something, I would just let it die if that was the case. (thats my advice to you let it die, you are wrong).

I have no problem answering questions about it, any questions, I'm just tired of doing it here with dozens of fake nicks, trolls, etc. running around. And it was gone about in totally the wrong fashion in that thread.

So John, you don't have a problem making posts about NATS on GFY when you are trying to sell NATS licenses? The trolls and fake nicks don't bother you then when you are trying to make sales? But when people who use your product like myself (neither of which am I a troll or fake nick) ask you an honest legit question, for a simple update from you, then you wont talk about that here??? WTF, GFY is only ok to spam and try to make sales but not good enough to give updates about your company to people who use it???

If something is so important to you and you're wondering about it for months you don't dive into a special offer thread with it. I'm easy to contact.

It wasn't something I had been thinking about for months actually. I had kind of forgot about it to be honest. You stopped posting here back in Dec, anyone can go look and see you pretty much made no posts on GFY back in Jan, Feb. When I saw you post, it made me remember what had happened. I thought this is nice, hey look John is back and he is trying to get people to buy NATS licenses. Haven't heard anything about this in a while, obviously if he is on here trying to make sales he can give us a little update and let us know if the people have be caught, how the investigation is going, etc... is that too much to ask? (obviously)

But you want me to contact you privately. Sorry John, I prefer not to. After having you contact me SEVERAL times about segpay/ibill telling me I am wrong I should trust you, etc.. It made me not want to talk to you. There is no "talking to you" there is only your opinion and what you want everyone to believe. Not to mention the NATS problem affected 1000s of people many of which who post here. Many of them said they wanted an update too, so what was the harm to reply " hey sorry no update yet". BOOM, it would have been over with. Nope not for John he wants to turn it into a pissing match and then answer the question 30 posts later after HE gets the drama going.

It hasn't been the first time he's given me a hard time either. I didn't go running to Eric right away, inf act I didn't even mention Will to Eric until the next day when he tried to start an anonymous drama thread about my company. I guess jumping into the first thread with drama wasn't enough for him.

What? an anonymous drama thread??? I didn't even name you in the thread, you out'ed yourself. I just wanted the situation resolved, i didnt want drama IF I WOULD HAVE WANTED DRAMA I WOULD HAVE NAMED YOU IN THE TITLE YOU DUMB ASS. I figured if I make a post on gfy and give you 24 hours to pay up it would do the trick and it did. The only reason there was drama because you choose to out yourself. Anyone can read that thread and see that you handled that wrong John, I didn't want drama I just wanted you to pay on a contest that you ran in JULY, and you were 8 months late on paying. You were suppose to send the money to a charity back in December but you said you were "too busy".

Here is that thread: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=812195 read it for yourself. John calls that me trying to start drama. I call that trying to get a dead beat to pay on an 8th month old contest, and 3months past due to a charity. I didn't even name you and I was going to keep it quiet if you paid, but your ego messed that up for you. nice job there John.

The check was fedexed out to Webmaster Toy Run today btw.

Thank you Charlie.

Again, I am more than happy to answer any questions from NATS users or affiliates. I'm just done doing it here. It just ends up wasting time with people who aren't even in this biz or fake nicks, etc. If you are an affiliate still feel free to contact me. I'm more than happy to discuss it with you.

So basically that means: " I am done answering questions I don't like but I will continue to spam my services here.... "

I am now closing down ICQ so i can get some work done. Continue to try to spin and protect your ego john and say its all my fault blah blah blah. Bottom line is, you attacked me and called me an asshole because you were to busy to pay a contest off 8 months ago and too busy to send money to charity 3 months ago. God forbid i ask you to make the payment. Oh and I asked for an update about nats too...NATS problems that were nationally broadcasted, but no updates have been made by NATS about it since. i am scum of the earth how dare I ask for such things, silly me I can only talk about nats and say stuff like " wow nice feature" I am not allowed to ask publicly, " hey how is that investigation going?".

[Eric]

John you just don't stop. You keep going and going and going no matter how wrong you are, your pride just wont let you accept the fact you are wrong. I have a problem with keeping things going too, but christ man, I would never do it when I am wrong about something, I would just let it die if that was the case. (thats my advice to you let it die, you are wrong).



So John, you don't have a problem making posts about NATS on GFY when you are trying to sell NATS licenses? The trolls and fake nicks don't bother you then when you are trying to make sales? But when people who use your product like myself (neither of which am I a troll or fake nick) ask you an honest legit question, for a simple update from you, then you wont talk about that here??? WTF, GFY is only ok to spam and try to make sales but not good enough to give updates about your company to people who use it???


It wasn't something I had been thinking about for months actually. I had kind of forgot about it to be honest. You stopped posting here back in Dec, anyone can go look and see you pretty much made no posts on GFY back in Jan, Feb. When I saw you post, it made me remember what had happened. I thought this is nice, hey look John is back and he is trying to get people to buy NATS licenses. Haven't heard anything about this in a while, obviously if he is on here trying to make sales he can give us a little update and let us know if the people have be caught, how the investigation is going, etc... is that too much to ask? (obviously)

But you want me to contact you privately. Sorry John, I prefer not to. After having you contact me SEVERAL times about segpay/ibill telling me I am wrong I should trust you, etc.. It made me not want to talk to you. There is no "talking to you" there is only your opinion and what you want everyone to believe. Not to mention the NATS problem affected 1000s of people many of which who post here. Many of them said they wanted an update too, so what was the harm to reply " hey sorry no update yet". BOOM, it would have been over with. Nope not for John he wants to turn it into a pissing match and then answer the question 30 posts later after HE gets the drama going.



What? an anonymous drama thread??? I didn't even name you in the thread, you out'ed yourself. I just wanted the situation resolved, i didnt want drama IF I WOULD HAVE WANTED DRAMA I WOULD HAVE NAMED YOU IN THE TITLE YOU DUMB ASS. I figured if I make a post on gfy and give you 24 hours to pay up it would do the trick and it did. The only reason there was drama because you choose to out yourself. Anyone can read that thread and see that you handled that wrong John, I didn't want drama I just wanted you to pay on a contest that you ran in JULY, and you were 8 months late on paying. You were suppose to send the money to a charity back in December but you said you were "too busy".

Here is that thread: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=812195 read it for yourself. John calls that me trying to start drama. I call that trying to get a dead beat to pay on an 8th month old contest, and 3months past due to a charity. I didn't even name you and I was going to keep it quiet if you paid, but your ego messed that up for you. nice job there John.




Thank you Charlie.




So basically that means: " I am done answering questions I don't like but I will continue to spam my services here.... "

I am now closing down ICQ so i can get some work done. Continue to try to spin and protect your ego john and say its all my fault blah blah blah. Bottom line is, you attacked me and called me an asshole because you were to busy to pay a contest off 8 months ago and too busy to send money to charity 3 months ago. God forbid i ask you to make the payment. Oh and I asked for an update about nats too...NATS problems that were nationally broadcasted, but no updates have been made by NATS about it since. i am scum of the earth how dare I ask for such things, silly me I can only talk about nats and say stuff like " wow nice feature" I am not allowed to ask publicly, " hey how is that investigation going?".

Will I told you to drop this and you couldn't do it. So Goodbye

[BradM]

Will I told you to drop this and you couldn't do it. So Goodbye

Thank god. That guy was probably good for the industry, but I just can't stand people that can't stop when they are told.

[tony286]

You know I have great respect for you Eric but it seems the rules are changing on GFY. If thats the case maybe the rules should be amended so we are all crystal clear. John choose to come into will's anonymous thread instead of contacting him directly. It was his contest his responsibility. I want to know exactly what rules are so I don't break them, if ad buyers are hands off I would like to know. I like this board and dont want to lose my water cooler.

[tiger]

Will I told you to drop this and you couldn't do it. So Goodbye

Wow.

[Celeb Fan]

You know I have great respect for you Eric but it seems the rules are changing on GFY.)

Whoever pays the most wins.


TEE HEE!

[BradM]

Hmmmmmmm, does adult.com run NATS?

[Imortyl Pussycat]

Will i can fasttrack your Bro application lmk

LMAO

[F-U-Jimmy]

This is fucked up , i dont think Will should be banned for asking questions no matter how sensitive they may be

[cykoe6]

This is fucked up , i dont think Will should be banned for asking questions no matter how sensitive they may be

Agreed.

[CyberHustler]

Truly unbelievable...

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

He'll be back.

Pah lease...
Like banned for ever? LOL Not gonna happen people like to read Will76 for some reason. He seems to be pretty good in the Regurgitated everybody knows already beaten like a dead horse bullshit that spawns itself here repeatedly day in and out.

[Fetish Videos]

He'll be back, but for chrissakes if Eric tells you to leave it alone, leave it alone...

[psili]

Will I told you to drop this and you couldn't do it. So Goodbye

You're a fucking dipshit.
Or your boss is.
Whatever.

The fucking dude at least makes some decent threads, with some sort of substance, that generate sig views. And you ban him.

Fan fucking tastic... The "pie", "emu", "I'm Juicy's bot" threads get to keep going, though.

[Bake]

Can I get the last word in?

[Sly]

Can we also get rid of some of those "I love pie" threads as well?

[Celeb Fan]

Folks, stick a fork into this place.

Nazi mods ruined it.

[rowan]

+1 for bringing will76 back. He may sound like a broken record sometimes, but at least he's passionate about his cause(es). How would anything change for the better if everyone stayed quiet and didn't say a word about what they thought was right or wrong?

[candyflip]

Maybe the plan is to actually kill this place and drive everyone off.

[Brujah]

What the fuck Eric? Really, think about this a bit more.

John's a goddamn stick of dynamite.

[psili]

Here. I'll write the press release to help GFY throw this shit under the rug:

We at GFY do not support threads that could hurt our advertisement revenue. Threads about Pies, Emus, fuckable flashlights, shit like that -- completely acceptable and welcome. Bring your bots. Threads that may expose our paying advertisers or someone we at GFY may do business with in a way that may look bad, you're fucked. Any questions, please direct them to [email protected].

[L-Pink]

Same here.. It is quite funny how it all just disappeared and was never talked about again. I still see it as a very "shady" deal. When you take into consideration that John also ran Pornograph.com and it was "supposedly" sold just prior to it being used to infect thousands of webmasters sites with Trojans. He wouldn't talk about that either.

So John has a shady past and is far to quiet, about BS that has fucked over hundreds if not thousands of webmasters. Yet he remains silent and wont give any of us any updates as if none of us deserve it or should know. Seems like history repeating it's self.. so what will be next?

And I applaud Will for asking what a lot of us are wondering.

[Tempest]

Should have just given him a timeout instead of a ban... PBucksJohn is the one that created the drama, not will76.

hmmm.. didn't PBucksJohn say awhile back he wouldn't be posting on here anymore because of all the trolls and fake nicks etc. And yet he plops himself right down and stirs up some drama... I love how he just can't help himself and then bitches about it when it gets out of hand... Give them both a timeout IMO.

[FreeHugeMovies]

LQQKs like Will got the Axe

[Wiredoctor]

WOW is all that comes to mind here. This is very interresting/disturbing to say the least. Will should NOT have been banned for this. John spams on the board, so if you live by the boards you also die by the boards. Will only asked legit questions that I know MANY people wanted to hear answers to.

[Brujah]

WOW are you trying to get banned also? Posting links to other forums

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

WOW is all that comes to mind here. This is very interresting/disturbing to say the least. Will should NOT have been banned for this. John spams on the board, so if you live by the boards you also die by the boards. Will only asked legit questions that I know MANY people wanted to hear answers to.

The answer's were already given as to what occured.

[L-Pink]

...

[Wiredoctor]

The answer's were already given as to what occured.

NO they were not answered completely and still have not.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

NO they were not answered completely and still have not.

Yeah the kind that are short of just getting the NATS source code...

[signupdamnit]

Will I told you to drop this and you couldn't do it. So Goodbye

What? All he did was reply to the man.

[Evil E]

LOL this is great.
So far we're shooting for 2 bannings on 1 thread.

Please post odds JDL.

In all seriousness I also wanted an update from NATS but I won't ask for it here unless I want to cyber suicide my GFY persona.

[L-Pink]

The problem, or maybe the desired effect, of asking private questions is limiting the scope of questions to your own vs the groups knowledge of the subject.

It's also a dodge .....

[papill0n]

Wow this is just wrong. I can't believe it.

[Eric]

Will was not banned for asking questions, raising issues, or even for pushing the limits. Will was banned because he was asked and warned repeatedly to take the issue off the boards. He could not do so, therefore proving he could not control himself.

This is not a permenant ban, but he does need to understand that we do not say things we say to say them. If we ask you guys to do something we expect you to respect that we are asking nicely, if you push us we will put you on time out... Act like a child and be treated like a child.

[basschick]

i disagree that this should be taken off the boards. let's face it - thousands upon thousands of affiliates may have had their info compromised. letting us know what police or fbi contacts to talk to about this issue and whether there is reason to know what info was compromised and what wasn't would be a real plus. has law enforcement found what - if anything - is being done with personal info, or if it's still just being added to spam lists?

there aren't enough hours in the day for the NATS people to talk to every affiliate personally, so the boards seem like the place to address the issue.

[Juicy D. Links]

You used to have fun posts JDL (years ago).
Now you just fucking suck.
Keep sporting whatever's in your sig (I have'em turned off).
And Kudos to you for building yourself as a board whore who warrants getting paid to post drivel. It must take either a special sales pitch on your part or a retarded sig buyer. *shrug*

And if you're off your meds and have read this far, I actually want to give you props for building a market that wants to give you money. Seriously. And in all honesty, you have created something out of nothing. -- That is bad ass.

coming from a whore who barely had 500 bucks to his name i aint here to amuse you or the others idiots like yourself..... for every idiot like you that turns into a hater i have 5 fresh recryuts to take your place...

talk to me when you become someone... lol

[Juicy D. Links]

Here. I'll write the press release to help GFY throw this shit under the rug:

wahhh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh jesus dude get a dog if you are so angry it will cheer you up or get a blow up doll...


btw your dad isnt really your dad , your real dad is some black dude your mom banged back in the day

[Juicy D. Links]

You're a fucking dipshit.
Or your boss is.
Whatever.

The fucking dude at least makes some decent threads, with some sort of substance, that generate sig views. And you ban him.

Fan fucking tastic... The "pie", "emu", "I'm Juicy's bot" threads get to keep going, though.

man you are on a roll you have so much inner hatred....

I guess you really must have a miserable life situation , man you must be looking for a way out of gfy to talk to eric that way.... Show some fucking respect asswipe

[Juicy D. Links]

Here. I'll write the press release to help GFY throw this shit under the rug:

I see you must be looking for work...

Someone give this poor soul a job before he kills hhimself



Education:
Bachelor Arts, Journalism Studies. Minors: Digital Media Studies and Creative Writing.
June 6, 1998, University of Denver (DU).
Work Experience:
Freelance Developer

Web development, ThirdSphere Hosting
Custom accounting reports for client charges and affiliate sales.
Plugin modules for the company's C-Panel client website administration platform.
Web development, Personal
Personal websites & projects utilizing various web technologies (Java, JSP, PHP, AJAX, JavaScript, etc) for self education.
New Frontier Media, Boulder CO

Senior Developer ? June 2005 to Present
Wireless Development
Developed and implemented SMS campaigns and WAP sites using the Mkodo platform and custom built applications.
International experience in London for three weeks working with the Mkodo team on the next release of their wireless platform.
Tested and worked with the open-source WURFL library, media preparation and vending to handsets and have hands-on understanding of building WAP sites for mobile phones.
Web Development
Architected and built web sites and wireless projects.
Created custom consumer and media tracking reports. Tested both Struts and Spring as application frameworks for this project to gain knowledge of such frameworks.
Created a web-based system to track affiliate websites, automatically download thumbnails from the websites and create an XML deliverable for an external client.
Web Developer ? June 2000 to June 2005
Maintained, upgraded and built systems around a SOAP API to the company's database of content.
Architected, built and maintained a membership website consisting of automatic daily updates, customizable templates based on traffic origination, full library search functionality, user reviews and ratings of videos and customer favorites and preferences systems.
Architected and built administrative web-based applications for the administration and scheduling of content into a membership site and web-based product plugins sold to clients.
Built web-based applications to administrate affiliate accounts, the products they purchased and have access to.
Created various internal web-based applications to help various departments expedite tedious tasks; including scheduling and promotional content dissemination.
Royal Sun Alliance, Englewood CO

Application Analyst ? January 1999 to June 2000
Produced and maintained corporate intranet and internet web pages.
Produced and maintained Lotus Notes workflow applications and system availability tracking intranet sites.
Researched and developed user interface standards for internal and external applications.
Documentation Specialist ? August 1998 to January 1999

Proofed, correlated and delivered company Year 2000 system remediation documentation.
Watson Wyatt Worldwide, Denver CO

Communications Intern ? June 1997 to August 1998
Researched and help implement e-mail encryption process between associates and clients.
Produced benefit and compensation communication materials for clients.
Assisted consultants with user-group studies and produced survey results for clients.
Design Workshop, Denver CO

Marketing Intern ? January through June, 1997
Created marketing material representing the company's landscape design projects.
Assisted with marketing calendars and project lists.
Wrote and edited project descriptions.
Lucent Technologies, Englewood CO

Summer Intern ? Summer 1996
Implemented and published proprietary Intranet repository for hardware schematics and technical information for field personnel.
Helped train internal employees on how to implement those publishing systems.
Department of Engineering, University of Denver, Denver CO

Administrative Assistant ? September 1994 to June 1998
Began to teach myself web page development.
Designed, published and maintained departmental web pages.
Answered phones, took messages, and stuff like that.
Technical Knowledge:
Operating Systems: Windows, Unix, Linux
Web Servers: Apache, Tomcat
SQL: MySQL, Oracle
Web / Internet: (X)HTML, JavaScript, PHP, JSP (beginner), XML, SOAP, AJAX
Programming: Java (beginner / intermediate)
Methodologies: Object Oriented & Model-View-Controller
Software: Visual Slick Edit, Eclipse, Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Office, Macromedia (Adobe) Flash, Macromedia (Adobe) Dreamweaver, Notepad / vi.

[Juicy D. Links]

LOL this is great.
So far we're shooting for 2 bannings on 1 thread.

Please post odds JDL.

In all seriousness I also wanted an update from NATS but I won't ask for it here unless I want to cyber suicide my GFY persona.

Vegas stopped taking action on this , the situation was too volatile for the bookmakers too make good odds

[Jace]

what the fuck ever

will is a great guy and does a lot for the industry, but any idiot knows that a lot of the issues going on with nats deal with pending litigation or even if they don't can't be brought up on boards due to lawyers recommendations, and pushing the issue is just an idiotic move, especially when john would probably be more than happy to chat privately about it all

will does do some good for the industry, but jesus he takes shit too far sometimes

[hershie]

I have never felt as dirty about coming to GFY as I do now.

It's OK for nazi's to spew hate on GFY but dare cross Eric when discussing a serious business subject...

[Mutt]

he just got a 'time out'. he'll be back.

Will's good - he's not wrong about anything - but he's become strident and his message(s) lose their power and substance because to many he is becoming a loon - i don't think he is but i can see people thinking that about him.

this should be a short ban.

[Vick!]

If we ask you guys to do something we expect you to respect that we are asking nicely, if you push us we will put you on time out... Act like a child and be treated like a child.

Well, that make sense.

[minddust]

I sell short FREE WILL76 stickers

[Juicy D. Links]

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[minddust]

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I love to cum on your chins, which one this time? the lower or upper chin?

[minddust]

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