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Old 11-12-2004, 02:51 PM   #1
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Warning - Do Not Trade With These Domains

I have about 120K in total traffic. It pays me about $130 on average a day. It is very important that you protect and monitor your traffic sources!

Do not trade with these domains:

pornocook.com
alexpix.com
teaner.com
teenax.com
grandthumbs.com
grannybed.com

Also, do not trade with domains that trade with them. Usually when someone is trading with these domains these domains will be in the top 5 if they are not the #1 trade. The reason why is that he uses either some kind of hitbot scheme or just has the shittiest traffic in the world.

I found that when 30K of my traffic came from any of these domains, other trades started blacklisting me for either low production or suspected me of hitbotting them. It seems that once the 'surfer' leaves your domain from this trade, it doesn't do shit on the other trades you have. So they will trade less and pretty soon you will have 1/4 of your traffic going to him since he will be the only one sending in large numbers.

So, 30K of my traffic is going through him and suddenly I am getting 1 signup in 3 days... I normally do 5 to 10 per day. So I kill all of his trades, my other trades spring back to life and BAMB, I am making $130 a day again.

2 weeks later I am trading with 90-60-90 who again takes up about 1/4 of my traffic on all of my sites and I ain't making shit again... So I go there and guess what? His top trades are pornocook.com and teenax.com... go figure... Remove his trade and I am making $130 a day again...

If you are trading with one of these domains you might get all goo-goo eyed over the uniques per day. But you are waisting your time because over time you are losing money, trading partners and your sanity. What is 120K if it is making you nothing but email signups?

Good day and I hope I have helped somebody.

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Old 11-12-2004, 03:08 PM   #2
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added to my list are trades of these sites:
90-60-90.com
young-kiss.com
cooliobabes.com
thumbscape.com <-- used to be a damn good trade until it started trading with pornocook, and now the production sucks.

If you are trading with any sites on the top part, cut them down to 70% return and your other trades will fill in the gap. If you are trading with any sites on the second list just above here, cut them down to 90% and you will notice the same.

If you are on this list. God save you because you are going to need it when you are a 80K tgp with 60K in bunk traffic that costs BW (money) and you aren't making near what you would if you weren't trading with them.
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Old 11-12-2004, 09:21 PM   #3
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Thanks again V_Rocks

Maybe we should try our trade again Prod was low last 2 times but maybe "3rd time's a charm" now that you've cleaned up some shit. I'm also up to 25k now so I should be able to get to a better spot on your toplist.

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Old 11-15-2004, 12:43 AM   #4
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www.lacetongue.com
www.rhinosthumbs.com
www.universaltgp.com
www.americastgp.com

Happy trading!

Also, check out www.nastybroker.com for all of my sites.
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:44 PM   #5
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maybe we should notify choker teenax.com is on his trade system
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:27 AM   #6
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V rock, how can I reach you?
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:20 PM   #7
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V rock, how can I reach you?

What he said.
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:59 PM   #8
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:09 PM   #9
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Yep, your list is very good. I noticed the same thing with teenax and 9060
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Old 11-17-2004, 01:59 PM   #10
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Old 11-18-2004, 07:31 AM   #11
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pornocook uses iframe to install trojans. He's smart and not easy to catch - he seems to do not install it on every referrer and country, he uses some rules.


As for the rest, I must say that you should use more advanced scripts. I use free script Avrora, which is far not perfect, but has bult-in "no-cookie/no JS" protection and those traders you mentioned (I traded with some of them like 90-60-90 and some others) never showed more than 80% productivity, they died and I eventually deleted them, without even knowing they are cheaters.
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Old 11-18-2004, 08:12 AM   #12
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Regretably I must admit that most of that list are russians as me...
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:19 AM   #13
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Yes they realy sucks.
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:46 PM   #14
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Yeah, this guy uses a hitbot.

sorry, but you wrong.
i never used hitbot.
not 3 years ago, not now...
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Old 11-19-2004, 12:46 AM   #15
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How can you reach me? Well, try surfing the WWW link on all of my posts and then click trades and try the ICQ method...

As for 90-60-90 being a hit botter. I never said he was. I said the second list were people who trade with hit botters so their traffic is affected.

Funny, I posted this same thing in another forum, we won't mention the name of it, and everyone bit off my head... I think as much as people talk shit about GFY, at least the people here know what the fuck they are talking about and also are not affraid to say so when something isn't right.

And again, Bandito guy, I am not accusing you of hit botting, I am accusing your top trades of doing so, so your traffic appears great but in reality it is 1/4 porno cook and his traffic sucks.
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Old 11-19-2004, 07:19 AM   #16
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Yes, I must say, that at first when I started trading eith it the production of 90-60-90 was pretty good. It essentially droped only a month ago or so. Probably because of teenax and pornocook trades...
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Old 11-19-2004, 10:05 AM   #17
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Yes, I must say, that at first when I started trading eith it the production of 90-60-90 was pretty good. It essentially droped only a month ago or so. Probably because of teenax and pornocook trades...
Nice content, will check our your program too.
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Old 11-20-2004, 04:22 PM   #18
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Here is another one using a hitbot or another one for the worlds most shitty traffic award.

This guy sent 739hits 2clicks in two hours he only got 4 hits from me back. So watch out for this clown.
http://www.xxx-plaza.net/index.shtml


I killed the trade with in 5mins from when he signed-up. Glad I check my shit several times a day.
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Old 11-21-2004, 03:20 AM   #19
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cooliobabes.com DOESN'T send hitbot too...
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Old 11-21-2004, 05:00 AM   #20
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I try to focus on IP's, that send traffic (hits) every x minutes. These are sometimes hard to find. But it's worth it. I look at regular visitors. For instance: if some IP address visits every, say 10 minutes, during 6 hours, for sure something's wrong!

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Old 11-23-2004, 03:19 AM   #21
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Old 11-30-2004, 12:09 AM   #22
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pornocook.com
alexpix.com
teaner.com
teenax.com
grandthumbs.com
grannybed.com
Hi!
I am owner of these domains
I never used a hitbots and somethings and don't use it.
I use my own script for trades and this script has a very strong hitbot protectioin.
Teenax is big site and there 160k bookmark traffic only with 550% prod. This is main reason why teenax can return 200-400% of traffic back and main reason as i think why teenax's prod is bad - my serfers know there will get a content realy. Teenax has 78% to content now and has strong methods for searching and deletion redirect galleries. Thus serfers get a clean TGP site with 78% content. Some time ago teenax had a SE adware code but now there no any an adware installs. This is clean big TGP site.
Other sites (mature for example) have some popups and adware software but if you don't want to trade - don't but don't write that i use hitbot traffic. Please write here facts else.

Best regards, Perlover
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Old 02-15-2005, 11:18 AM   #23
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Old 02-15-2005, 03:48 PM   #24
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If you are trading with one of these domains you might get all goo-goo eyed over the uniques per day. But you are waisting your time because over time you are losing money, trading partners and your sanity. What is 120K if it is making you nothing but email signups?

Good day and I hope I have helped somebody.

I have revealed his scam . He built a script that filters traffic by countries , and has the ability to manipulate which country to send to whoever he likes. My view is that this lamer is sending all of his chinese and arab traffic to trades , and U.S + western europe to his galleries . This is the only explanation for that .

Have a nice day .
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:33 PM   #25
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Hey Everyone!
Trying to get traffic to my site, latinapussyparty.com, I've also put up a top list, please go check it out and put your sites on there. I'd really dig any other suggestions you all have as far as getting more traffic...I have a bit coming now, but not nearly enough.
The list link is in my sig.
Thanks!!
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