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noonemaster · 07-28-2011, 05:46 PM

For digital goods paypal sucks its so easy for buyers to refund
You sell something or you give access for anything and after a month
they request a refund and you pay also the fees
No possible to proof a fucking s*&^#

robber · 07-29-2011, 09:56 AM

What is thier reason for requesting a refund back? as I don't know many places who would just refund like that.

drmadcat · 07-29-2011, 10:02 AM

best and safest way to sell a domain via paypal
1.receive paypal payment
2.send recorded letter to payee
3.check payee has received and signed for letter
then you should be covered via paypal
but there may be a way around that

noonemaster · 07-29-2011, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robber

What is thier reason for requesting a refund back? as I don't know many places who would just refund like that.

You dont refund like that but you cant do nothing

Reason for refund:

The buyer claims that this purchase was made without authorization to use
the credit card

My answer also for drmadcat

drmadcat · 07-29-2011, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonemaster

You dont refund like that but you cant do nothing

Reason for refund:

The buyer claims that this purchase was made without authorization to use
the credit card

My answer also for drmadcat

if they claim it was not themselves that paid via paypal i think your fucked use paxum

noonemaster · 07-29-2011, 11:09 AM

paxum... i will check it
But the important think its to do jobs with good clients

michael.kickass · 07-29-2011, 01:03 PM

PayPal always sucked.

robber · 07-29-2011, 08:35 PM

well, get them to use a paypal account itself as if the charge on the card is disputed then it should be paypal's issue not yours as they're charging the card

Chosen · 07-29-2011, 10:58 PM

Paypal sucks big time, it's not a secret at all...

Captain Kawaii · 07-31-2011, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonemaster

You dont refund like that but you cant do nothing

Reason for refund:

The buyer claims that this purchase was made without authorization to use
the credit card

My answer also for drmadcat

Those are Visa issues and not paypal...

08-01-2011, 06:18 AM

yes paypal sucked bigtime

maybe banned them :-)

Adraco · 08-11-2011, 05:38 PM

Learn how to write terms of services, and implement verification processes to verify them and their creditcard to thus prevent such chargebacks. Also check what Paypal's policy is on digital goods or services and how they are excluded from the regular seller protection.

HerPimp · 08-11-2011, 09:34 PM

take a look at plimus

PSDan · 08-12-2011, 06:27 PM

We've been using PayPal for nearly 11 years. No complaints, but we may be lucky. Only a handful of refunds or reversals. But, as it was stated earlier, it is really the credit card issuer that causing the issues - especially in these times with regard to liquidity problems faced by many financial institutions (BofA has lost 50% of its stock value this year to date), and issues in the derivatives markets. Lending money (which is what a credit card purchase is) is tightening, and the rules are evolving at the expense of small business.

explicitclick · 08-15-2011, 11:18 PM

I am on the paypal sucks train also!

braylove · 08-28-2011, 04:36 AM

Paypal are crooks!

They will " freeze " your account for some made up reason and then make you wait 90 days to receive your funds through check.

And once your account is frozen, If they find out you make a new one they will freeze that one as well and say they are suspicious of fraud.

BULLSHIzzz!

-Fox- · 08-31-2011, 12:57 PM

Some things that you could do to protect yourself better when you sell, at least this is how i do:

1) Request the buyer paypal email:
2) Check if his account is verified (may be US or non-US verified) LINK
3) Send a payment request from your account including information about what are you selling and any other transaction details you have.

* In the verification link you have to replace 'email' for the email you want to check.

CamsMaster · 08-31-2011, 02:35 PM

I just created one :D

braylove · 09-01-2011, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Fox-

Some things that you could do to protect yourself better when you sell, at least this is how i do:

1) Request the buyer paypal email:
2) Check if his account is verified (may be US or non-US verified) LINK
3) Send a payment request from your account including information about what are you selling and any other transaction details you have.

* In the verification link you have to replace 'email' for the email you want to check.

Or better yet. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. LOL

Lisa_trafficshop · 09-06-2011, 02:15 PM

I agree with the others that PayPal plays its own game but Plimus is not an alternative as these guys may block your account once and forever for whatever reason and then invent some negative balance which you'll have to pay. At least you can a kinda negotiate and communicate with PayPal in some issues and even with regard to refunds.

fancywoods · 09-09-2011, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonemaster

You dont refund like that but you cant do nothing

Reason for refund:
The buyer claims that this purchase was made without authorization to use
the credit card...
My answer also for drmadcat

Paypal's buyer protection policy aways leads to some fraud transaction. I recommend to use our payment system with 3D visa/MC certification and professional risk control team...

No matter what kind of industry your online business is engaged in, I am always happy to help you with safe & stable transactions.

Contact me and receive money easily and safely.

adbash · 09-12-2011, 12:50 PM

You can always use theirs competitors. I'm also not satisfied in 100% from Paypal but it's huge player on market and a lot of users use it.

brassmonkey · 10-04-2011, 10:50 PM

happened to me a few times. one of them was over a year old chargeback

possiblygreen · 10-06-2011, 12:18 PM

I could be the odd one out here but I quite like Alertpay. Paypal sucks in too many ways.
Even their dev conferences suck.

socialcracker · 10-20-2011, 03:37 AM

yeah paypal sucks.. I use it because most people use it and find it convenient.. Once paypal freezed my account for having around 10k$ in paypal.. It almost took them 6 months to release that money..

Paypal sucks bad !

mixing · 10-28-2011, 01:10 AM

Well for most people outside the US I would agree that it sucks..I live in the USA and use paypal very frequently so I actually like them

Jack Sparrow · 10-28-2011, 02:22 AM

Paypal sux badly.
They ban accounts without any good reason. Hold your funds for months. You can call them over and over and they will promise to solve issues but never do.

My last account got banned, bo reason given. They tell ne to look in my account because there would be something there to solve. Nothing. No complaints, no refunds. Nothing.

Im going plimus now with my mainstream, unless someone can convince me they suck and there is a better alternative.

07-28-2011, 05:46 PM	#1
noonemaster Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 59	Paypal Suck For digital goods paypal sucks its so easy for buyers to refund You sell something or you give access for anything and after a month they request a refund and you pay also the fees No possible to proof a fucking s*&^#

07-29-2011, 10:02 AM	#3
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08-11-2011, 05:38 PM	#12
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07-29-2011, 09:56 AM	#2
robber Web Developer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 264	What is thier reason for requesting a refund back? as I don't know many places who would just refund like that.

07-29-2011, 11:09 AM	#6
noonemaster Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 59	paxum... i will check it But the important think its to do jobs with good clients

07-29-2011, 08:35 PM	#8
robber Web Developer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 264	well, get them to use a paypal account itself as if the charge on the card is disputed then it should be paypal's issue not yours as they're charging the card

07-29-2011, 10:58 PM	#9
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08-01-2011, 06:18 AM	#11
wild_jayx Guest Posts: n/a	yes paypal sucked bigtime maybe banned them :-)

08-12-2011, 06:27 PM	#14
PSDan Web Developer Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 189	We've been using PayPal for nearly 11 years. No complaints, but we may be lucky. Only a handful of refunds or reversals. But, as it was stated earlier, it is really the credit card issuer that causing the issues - especially in these times with regard to liquidity problems faced by many financial institutions (BofA has lost 50% of its stock value this year to date), and issues in the derivatives markets. Lending money (which is what a credit card purchase is) is tightening, and the rules are evolving at the expense of small business. __________________ Dan Password Sentry The better app for better websites for better website password protection! Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Follow Us on LinkedIn Subscribe to Our YouTube Channel

08-15-2011, 11:18 PM	#15
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08-28-2011, 04:36 AM	#16
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08-31-2011, 12:57 PM	#17
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09-06-2011, 02:15 PM	#20
Lisa_trafficshop Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Somewhere high... Posts: 677	I agree with the others that PayPal plays its own game but Plimus is not an alternative as these guys may block your account once and forever for whatever reason and then invent some negative balance which you'll have to pay. At least you can a kinda negotiate and communicate with PayPal in some issues and even with regard to refunds.

09-12-2011, 12:50 PM	#22
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10-04-2011, 10:50 PM	#23
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10-06-2011, 12:18 PM	#24
possiblygreen Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 38	I could be the odd one out here but I quite like Alertpay. Paypal sucks in too many ways. Even their dev conferences suck.

10-20-2011, 03:37 AM	#25
socialcracker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dreamland Posts: 52	yeah paypal sucks.. I use it because most people use it and find it convenient.. Once paypal freezed my account for having around 10k$ in paypal.. It almost took them 6 months to release that money.. Paypal sucks bad !

10-28-2011, 01:10 AM	#26
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10-28-2011, 02:22 AM	#27
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Paypal sux badly. They ban accounts without any good reason. Hold your funds for months. You can call them over and over and they will promise to solve issues but never do. My last account got banned, bo reason given. They tell ne to look in my account because there would be something there to solve. Nothing. No complaints, no refunds. Nothing. Im going plimus now with my mainstream, unless someone can convince me they suck and there is a better alternative.