Creating a succesfull AVS site - A TUTORIAL - GoFuckYourself.com

XXXdwarf · 09-19-2004, 08:03 AM

Anyone who tells you there is ?no money to be made in AVS anymore these days?, is either stupid or retarded. AVS is still very much alive & kicking! And, when you know what you are doing, you can make yourself a small fortune from your AVS-site(s)?

I?d say that anyone, starters and professionals alike, should look at all the possible methods to make money. And a lot of you are just focussing on TGP-ing. It is my (idle?) hope this tutorial can shift that focus a bit..

I do not have the pretension that this tutorial is holding the single key to success. It should merely be read as a guideline for beginners and to illustrate how I got AVS to work successfully for me.

----

How to build a successful AVS-site?

Generally you can distinguish two types of AVS.
1. The ones that offer a free pass to the AVS network in combination with a trial to paysite for a small fee.
They will pay you per signup. Non recurring.
A good one, that has high payouts, and one I can certainly recommend, is: Sex Pictures Pass

2. The ones that offer a recurring membership to the AVS network, often around $30. They will pay you a recurring %. A good example here is: Adultbouncer

The last option has distinct disadvantages. First of all, your site must have a very good, professional looking, design that justifies the high signup fee for the surfer. Second, you must update regularly to retain the memberships.
Some may argue that retention is higher because of the abundance of porn in the AVS network itself. However, my experience is different. The surfer signs up for your site firstly. And if you don?t update they will stop being a member. Also because of the fact that the through the AVS network supplied content is recycled over and over again.

Taking that all in consideration, I personally think that the first option is the better one?

So, lets start creating our site, shall we?

Pick a niche you are comfortable with. This seriously is very important. Don?t just start a teen site because everyone is doing it. What kind of porn makes you tick? Pick it! You are a expert on that niche and you know best what to show the surfers to make them go wild!

Now go looking for good content. There are a lot of content providers around. If you are to lazy to look them up, you can just start a thread and ask them to spam you on any board. They would be more then happy to.

Some of them have good package deals others may give you discount if you order certain sets or amounts. Choose carefully, it?s your money, and it is supposed to make you money later?

Obviously, to start a site you will need hosting and a domain name as well, but because of the chance that this tutorial would become to elaborate, I will not get into that further. Any questions about these topics could be answered with a good search on the boards.

Now that you have the content, you can start building your site!

Remember, your biggest aim is to get the surfer to sign up. (Really, keep it in mind while creating the site!)

A key factor in this process is trust.
The surfer must trust that the site delivers what they say. That the site has the content the surfer is looking for. What works for me is opening up the members section as a preview. I have nothing to hide.
The surfer can access an exact copy of the members section, complete with all the galleries with thumbnails and all. The first couple of thumbnails can lead to pics. However, every other pic and movie leads to a signup page.

Another factor is sales pitch. Make full use of the advantages of the AVS system:
?You can see this all with your FREE lifetime membership!!? and ?Gain access to this site and hundreds of others with just one pass!? Etc. Etc. You get the point?

From my experience, a great looking site is not needed. Just pick some nice complementing colours and keep it simple and ?important- easy to navigate. The fact that the site doesn?t look too slick can actually benefit to the trust factor. It can make the surfer think that the site is built by one of them?

This should be enough to make the surfer horny, make him trust your site and should make him think: ?What the hack, it?ll cost me near to nothing.. Why not?!?
He will get his credit card and sign up.. :D

But how do we get the surfers to visit your site?

Like most subscription (and other) sites in this business, also AVS sites get most of their traffic through galleries. You will have to build them. If you own free sites or TGP?s yourself, you can list them on it. But most people will have to get them listed somewhere else.

But don?t be affraid!
Building galleries isn?t actually that hard. Most of the galleries that get listed on the TGP?s have a simple layout and are straight HTML. Take a good look at the galleries that are listed on some big TGP's. And learn from it! Often, content is they key factor here.
Now, you already have the great content that you?ve bought to fill up you members section! You can use that for your galleries as well. No extra expenses here. If you really feel you can?t build it, or you are just too lazy, you can order a gallery template for only $20* here: Adultdesign.biz
(*That the price the last time I checked)
There are plenty of good tutorials around about submitting and creating galleries. Like this one Read them and educate yourself. Don?t think it?s too hard, because it isn?t, just start working straight away. You will never learn more by reading then by personal experience. Don?t expect to be listed by the big sites straight away. Remember, a lot of traffic coming from a lot of smaller sites is still a lot of traffic! And often of better quality.

There are also other ways to get traffic to your site. Such as search engine submission, banner exchanges and AVS lists. But these have either little traffic to offer (banner exchange and AVS lists) or are quite complicated and a more long-term concern (search engine submission). So don?t expect too much of these.

Last but not least: the members section and upsells

This is a part that a lot of people easily forget. But it can become a really important part of your site and your income.

The idea is quite simple.
Since all of the surfers visiting your members section have gone through the signup process and have pulled out their credit card to do so, you know that all of these surfers have a credit card AND are not afraid to use it online to buy a subscription.
And, and this is the best part, you know in what niche they are interested! These surfers are highly valuable. Make use of them! You are not going to let them just stroll around your members section, are you? That would be just plain stupid.
No, what you are going to do is getting them to sign up to another subscription porn site in your niche?
So go around and find the quality porn sites that cater your niche. Sign up for their affiliate programs and try and promote them to your members.
Selling (trial) memberships to my members accumulates to about 13-18% of the total income! It?s definitely worth it!

To summarise: ?Why should I get into AVS??

Because you control everything!!!
1. You?ve built the galleries and will get the surfer to your site!
2. You?ve built the site so can get the surfer to sign up!
3. And it doesn?t stop there! You can even get the newly acquired members to sign up to other sites in your members section!

You will never lose control over the traffic and can tweak everything to your advantage this way and create a site that works for you!
I'd say, make use of that great advantage!!!

Give it a try! Start by signing up with a good AVS right now! (see sig)

baddog · 09-19-2004, 12:30 PM

Nice job XXXDwarf . . . trust me, this guy knows what he is talking about. He was making signups before I even had a chance to review his site when he first joined up with SexPicturesPass . . . .in fact, I was one that suggested he should write a tutorial, he does very well for sure

retrograde · 09-19-2004, 12:58 PM

Thanks for taking the time to write this!

XXXdwarf · 09-22-2004, 12:38 PM

The pleasure is all mine retrograde!

XXXdwarf · 10-03-2004, 01:04 PM

groark · 10-03-2004, 02:11 PM

Whoa nice one!

Sethseekstruth · 10-05-2004, 03:00 PM

I'll use this for my next site, then post the results.

anyone want to spam me with sponsors, amature bdsm content, and html editors?

Halcyon · 10-06-2004, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXdwarf
Anyone who tells you there is ?no money to be made in AVS anymore these days?, is either stupid or retarded. AVS is still very much alive & kicking! And, when you know what you are doing, you can make yourself a small fortune from your AVS-site(s)?

I?d say that anyone, starters and professionals alike, should look at all the possible methods to make money. And a lot of you are just focussing on TGP-ing. It is my (idle?) hope this tutorial can shift that focus a bit..

I do not have the pretension that this tutorial is holding the single key to success. It should merely be read as a guideline for beginners and to illustrate how I got AVS to work successfully for me.

----

How to build a successful AVS-site?

Generally you can distinguish two types of AVS.
1. The ones that offer a free pass to the AVS network in combination with a trial to paysite for a small fee.
They will pay you per signup. Non recurring.
A good one, that has high payouts, and one I can certainly recommend, is: Sex Pictures Pass

2. The ones that offer a recurring membership to the AVS network, often around $30. They will pay you a recurring %. A good example here is: Adultbouncer

The last option has distinct disadvantages. First of all, your site must have a very good, professional looking, design that justifies the high signup fee for the surfer. Second, you must update regularly to retain the memberships.
Some may argue that retention is higher because of the abundance of porn in the AVS network itself. However, my experience is different. The surfer signs up for your site firstly. And if you don?t update they will stop being a member. Also because of the fact that the through the AVS network supplied content is recycled over and over again.

Taking that all in consideration, I personally think that the first option is the better one?

So, lets start creating our site, shall we?

Pick a niche you are comfortable with. This seriously is very important. Don?t just start a teen site because everyone is doing it. What kind of porn makes you tick? Pick it! You are a expert on that niche and you know best what to show the surfers to make them go wild!

Now go looking for good content. There are a lot of content providers around. If you are to lazy to look them up, you can just start a thread and ask them to spam you on any board. They would be more then happy to.
Some of them have good package deals others may give you discount if you order certain sets or amounts. Choose carefully, it?s your money, and it is supposed to make you money later?

Obviously, to start a site you will need hosting and a domain name as well, but because of the chance that this tutorial would become to elaborate, I will not get into that further. Any questions about these topics could be answered with a good search on the boards.

Now that you have the content, you can start building your site!

Remember, your biggest aim is to get the surfer to sign up. (Really, keep it in mind while creating the site!)

A key factor in this process is trust.
The surfer must trust that the site delivers what they say. That the site has the content the surfer is looking for. What works for me is opening up the members section as a preview. I have nothing to hide.
The surfer can access an exact copy of the members section, complete with all the galleries with thumbnails and all. The first couple of thumbnails can lead to pics. However, every other pic and movie leads to a signup page.

Another factor is sales pitch. Make full use of the advantages of the AVS system:
?You can see this all with your FREE lifetime membership!!? and ?Gain access to this site and hundreds of others with just one pass!? Etc. Etc. You get the point?

From my experience, a great looking site is not needed. Just pick some nice complementing colours and keep it simple and ?important- easy to navigate. The fact that the site doesn?t look too slick can actually benefit to the trust factor. It can make the surfer think that the site is built by one of them?

This should be enough to make the surfer horny, make him trust your site and should make him think: ?What the hack, it?ll cost me near to nothing.. Why not?!?
He will get his credit card and sign up.. :D

But how do we get the surfers to visit your site?

Like most subscription (and other) sites in this business, also AVS sites get most of their traffic through galleries. You will have to build them. If you own free sites or TGP?s yourself, you can list them on it. But most people will have to get them listed somewhere else.

But don?t be affraid!
Building galleries isn?t actually that hard. Most of the galleries that get listed on the TGP?s have a simple layout and are straight HTML. Take a good look at the galleries that are listed on some big TGP's. And learn from it! Often, content is they key factor here.
Now, you already have the great content that you?ve bought to fill up you members section! You can use that for your galleries as well. No extra expenses here. If you really feel you can?t build it, or you are just too lazy, you can order a gallery template for only $20* here: Adultdesign.biz
(*That the price the last time I checked)
There are plenty of good tutorials around about submitting and creating galleries. Like this one Read them and educate yourself. Don?t think it?s too hard, because it isn?t, just start working straight away. You will never learn more by reading then by personal experience. Don?t expect to be listed by the big sites straight away. Remember, a lot of traffic coming from a lot of smaller sites is still a lot of traffic! And often of better quality.

There are also other ways to get traffic to your site. Such as search engine submission, banner exchanges and AVS lists. But these have either little traffic to offer (banner exchange and AVS lists) or are quite complicated and a more long-term concern (search engine submission). So don?t expect too much of these.

Last but not least: the members section and upsells

This is a part that a lot of people easily forget. But it can become a really important part of your site and your income.

The idea is quite simple.
Since all of the surfers visiting your members section have gone through the signup process and have pulled out their credit card to do so, you know that all of these surfers have a credit card AND are not afraid to use it online to buy a subscription.
And, and this is the best part, you know in what niche they are interested! These surfers are highly valuable. Make use of them! You are not going to let them just stroll around your members section, are you? That would be just plain stupid.
No, what you are going to do is getting them to sign up to another subscription porn site in your niche?
So go around and find the quality porn sites that cater your niche. Sign up for their affiliate programs and try and promote them to your members.
Selling (trial) memberships to my members accumulates to about 13-18% of the total income! It?s definitely worth it!

To summarise: ?Why should I get into AVS??

Because you control everything!!!
1. You?ve built the galleries and will get the surfer to your site!
2. You?ve built the site so can get the surfer to sign up!
3. And it doesn?t stop there! You can even get the newly acquired members to sign up to other sites in your members section!

You will never lose control over the traffic and can tweak everything to your advantage this way and create a site that works for you!
I'd say, make use of that great advantage!!!

Give it a try! Start by signing up with a good AVS right now! (see sig)

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XXXdwarf · 10-06-2004, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halcyon

That post was a flash of fucking brilliance and wins the daily FoFB Award. The author of this post has earned $20 from FLASHCA$H and our eternal gratitude for making time spent on the boards more worth while. THANK YOU!

$ deposited via Flashcash account to ePassporte.
Email [email protected] or ICQ 261-416-675 to arrange for your $$$.
http://www.flashoffuckingbrilliance.com

Cheers!

smokingdawn · 10-07-2004, 06:12 AM

Very nice post..thanks

XXXdwarf · 10-08-2004, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sethseekstruth
I'll use this for my next site, then post the results.

anyone want to spam me with sponsors, amature bdsm content, and html editors?

Please do this... I'm certain that you will do good if you follow the rules above..

DavidVH · 10-09-2004, 10:46 AM

very nicely written.

XXXdwarf · 10-10-2004, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DavidVH
very nicely written.

Thanks for the kind comment..

Steve_NCH · 10-11-2004, 09:45 PM

Quality post. I make 90% of my $$$ following that advice - a quality AVS site is well worth the time building and promoting.

69pornlinks · 11-07-2004, 11:08 AM

Davey911 · 11-07-2004, 03:18 PM

Thx a lot

soulboy · 11-08-2004, 03:56 PM

Great tutorial here. AVS is the best way to start in this biz

fusionx · 11-13-2004, 08:37 PM

Thanks for the article. It convinced me to try AVS sites for a while.

I have a few TGPs and don't care for the amount of work they take vs. the income they generate. Working traffic trades and approving galleries takes quite a bit of time.

AVS sites seem much easier to build, and only require a little updating if you run a recurring type site.

Do you (or does anyone) use an AVS building tool, or do you build them by hand?

I'm looking at AVSWizard - it seems to do all the grunt work and is really cheap - $100.00 I think. It looks like I could crank out 10 an hour with customizations. It also comes with a hub tool.

Anyway, thanks again!

semium · 11-15-2004, 05:10 PM

thx a lot
good post

nmcog · 04-03-2005, 08:20 PM

bump....

balls · 04-03-2005, 09:14 PM

OK, seeing how this IS my first post maybe you will forgive this lame ass question. WTF does AVS stand for?

I am a webmaster with over 100 sites some with more then 25k pages, been doing this for 5 plus yrs. Just don't have ANY adult site experience. Plenty of website building experience though. Also own a small ISP and web hosting biz. I can work on any project 18 hrs a day until finished as all I do is set at the computer day and night.

I need to get into something that with work and some investment I can make $$ with. The ISP biz aint making big $$ and my other sites are just doing ok nothing large. I don't expect 100k a month but would like to know what I can expect if I do OK.

Can anyone venture a few suggestions as what you can make with average brains lots of work and persistence?

This tutorial looks pretty good, I just need to get enough experience to know what everything is you guys are talking about. Then I'll rev up and see what I can do with this biz.

Thanks

nadanada · 04-04-2005, 08:15 AM

AVS = Adult Verification Service

I haven't messed around with them, but I'm pretty sure it works usually in conjunction with a promoter as a part of a webring per se, with several (usually several hundred) "free sites."

Satan · 04-04-2005, 06:07 PM

Nice post!
XXXdwarf can you contact me on ICQ please? 106673119

Playa-Deak · 04-04-2005, 06:37 PM

I never knew how to do AVS. Barely know what it is. I'm focusing ob zz tutorial/tip thread then I'm gonna give this some attention... Thnx for taking the time out to write this

Jimmy Rock · 04-04-2005, 07:23 PM

Do you have any samples of a good AVS site?

nadanada · 04-04-2005, 09:03 PM

thats a damn good question, because I really have no idea what an AVS looks like.

I can only imagine possibly close to a pay site?

Satan · 04-04-2005, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nadanada

thats a damn good question, because I really have no idea what an AVS looks like.

I can only imagine possibly close to a pay site?

There are a number of different avs sites listed on my site: http://www.avspool.com

Kevsh · 04-04-2005, 09:53 PM

I've never done AVS but your tutorial is great - right to the point, full of tips and a little hand-holding (in regards to who to use) never hurts.

I may just try it out for cams (I know there are some - I'd offer free chat through co-branding inside the members section. Add some videos and photo galleries to round out the content).

CIVMatt · 04-05-2005, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx

Thanks for the article. It convinced me to try AVS sites for a while.

I have a few TGPs and don't care for the amount of work they take vs. the income they generate. Working traffic trades and approving galleries takes quite a bit of time.

AVS sites seem much easier to build, and only require a little updating if you run a recurring type site.

Do you (or does anyone) use an AVS building tool, or do you build them by hand?

I'm looking at AVSWizard - it seems to do all the grunt work and is really cheap - $100.00 I think. It looks like I could crank out 10 an hour with customizations. It also comes with a hub tool.

Anyway, thanks again!

Interesting program, know of any sites that it has accually created, I'd like to see its templates, I emailed them but have yet to hear anything.

nadanada · 04-05-2005, 02:03 PM

I'm going to test out the demo.

fireorange · 06-04-2005, 07:06 PM

bumping an old but good thread.

baddog · 06-05-2005, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balls

OK, seeing how this IS my first post maybe you will forgive this lame ass question. WTF does AVS stand for?

Balls, I hope you see this, I just happened to check my search and found this thread. I am baddog, and I am the President and CEO of Sex Pictures Pass AVS. Welcome to GFY.

I see you know what AVS means, but here is a little tutorial I wrote about AVS. It is in blog form, so you will need to start on page 2, and work your way up. It covers everything.

You have a great head start with your mainstream experience, and should do quite well with minimal guidance. I would be happy to answer any of your questions after reading it.

My contact info is on the site's contact page, or you can ICQ 16075497.

baddog · 06-05-2005, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Rock

Do you have any samples of a good AVS site?

I am not going to give links to his sites without asking him first, but I will show you one done in the same style. Different niche, different content, different upsell, but the exact same style as what he was talking about.

Cherry Red Ass

baddog · 06-05-2005, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireorange

bumping an old but good thread.

Thank you for doing that

Yahook · 06-05-2005, 04:11 PM

Good thread, thanks XXXdwarf for your article, very good

aja006 · 12-29-2006, 09:47 AM

Is this still relevant? I think I bookmarked this quite awhile ago and just never got around to trying it.

baddog · 12-29-2006, 01:55 PM

yes it is

09-19-2004, 08:03 AM	#1
XXXdwarf Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Netherlands. Posts: 127	Creating a succesfull AVS site - A TUTORIAL Anyone who tells you there is ?no money to be made in AVS anymore these days?, is either stupid or retarded. AVS is still very much alive & kicking! And, when you know what you are doing, you can make yourself a small fortune from your AVS-site(s)? I?d say that anyone, starters and professionals alike, should look at all the possible methods to make money. And a lot of you are just focussing on TGP-ing. It is my (idle?) hope this tutorial can shift that focus a bit.. I do not have the pretension that this tutorial is holding the single key to success. It should merely be read as a guideline for beginners and to illustrate how I got AVS to work successfully for me. ---- How to build a successful AVS-site? Generally you can distinguish two types of AVS. 1. The ones that offer a free pass to the AVS network in combination with a trial to paysite for a small fee. They will pay you per signup. Non recurring. A good one, that has high payouts, and one I can certainly recommend, is: Sex Pictures Pass 2. The ones that offer a recurring membership to the AVS network, often around $30. They will pay you a recurring %. A good example here is: Adultbouncer The last option has distinct disadvantages. First of all, your site must have a very good, professional looking, design that justifies the high signup fee for the surfer. Second, you must update regularly to retain the memberships. Some may argue that retention is higher because of the abundance of porn in the AVS network itself. However, my experience is different. The surfer signs up for your site firstly. And if you don?t update they will stop being a member. Also because of the fact that the through the AVS network supplied content is recycled over and over again. Taking that all in consideration, I personally think that the first option is the better one? So, lets start creating our site, shall we? Pick a niche you are comfortable with. This seriously is very important. Don?t just start a teen site because everyone is doing it. What kind of porn makes you tick? Pick it! You are a expert on that niche and you know best what to show the surfers to make them go wild! Now go looking for good content. There are a lot of content providers around. If you are to lazy to look them up, you can just start a thread and ask them to spam you on any board. They would be more then happy to. Some of them have good package deals others may give you discount if you order certain sets or amounts. Choose carefully, it?s your money, and it is supposed to make you money later? Obviously, to start a site you will need hosting and a domain name as well, but because of the chance that this tutorial would become to elaborate, I will not get into that further. Any questions about these topics could be answered with a good search on the boards. Now that you have the content, you can start building your site! Remember, your biggest aim is to get the surfer to sign up. (Really, keep it in mind while creating the site!) A key factor in this process is trust. The surfer must trust that the site delivers what they say. That the site has the content the surfer is looking for. What works for me is opening up the members section as a preview. I have nothing to hide. The surfer can access an exact copy of the members section, complete with all the galleries with thumbnails and all. The first couple of thumbnails can lead to pics. However, every other pic and movie leads to a signup page. Another factor is sales pitch. Make full use of the advantages of the AVS system: ?You can see this all with your FREE lifetime membership!!? and ?Gain access to this site and hundreds of others with just one pass!? Etc. Etc. You get the point? From my experience, a great looking site is not needed. Just pick some nice complementing colours and keep it simple and ?important- easy to navigate. The fact that the site doesn?t look too slick can actually benefit to the trust factor. It can make the surfer think that the site is built by one of them? This should be enough to make the surfer horny, make him trust your site and should make him think: ?What the hack, it?ll cost me near to nothing.. Why not?!? He will get his credit card and sign up.. :D But how do we get the surfers to visit your site? Like most subscription (and other) sites in this business, also AVS sites get most of their traffic through galleries. You will have to build them. If you own free sites or TGP?s yourself, you can list them on it. But most people will have to get them listed somewhere else. But don?t be affraid! Building galleries isn?t actually that hard. Most of the galleries that get listed on the TGP?s have a simple layout and are straight HTML. Take a good look at the galleries that are listed on some big TGP's. And learn from it! Often, content is they key factor here. Now, you already have the great content that you?ve bought to fill up you members section! You can use that for your galleries as well. No extra expenses here. If you really feel you can?t build it, or you are just too lazy, you can order a gallery template for only $20* here: Adultdesign.biz (That the price the last time I checked) There are plenty of good tutorials around about submitting and creating galleries. Like this one Read them and educate yourself. Don?t think it?s too hard, because it isn?t, just start working straight away. You will never learn more by reading then by personal experience. Don?t expect to be listed by the big sites straight away. Remember, a lot of traffic coming from a lot of smaller sites is still a lot of traffic! And often of better quality. There are also other ways to get traffic to your site. Such as search engine submission, banner exchanges and AVS lists. But these have either little traffic to offer (banner exchange and AVS lists) or are quite complicated and a more long-term concern (search engine submission). So don?t expect too much of these. Last but not least: the members section and upsells* This is a part that a lot of people easily forget. But it can become a really important part of your site and your income. The idea is quite simple. Since all of the surfers visiting your members section have gone through the signup process and have pulled out their credit card to do so, you know that all of these surfers have a credit card AND are not afraid to use it online to buy a subscription. And, and this is the best part, you know in what niche they are interested! These surfers are highly valuable. Make use of them! You are not going to let them just stroll around your members section, are you? That would be just plain stupid. No, what you are going to do is getting them to sign up to another subscription porn site in your niche? So go around and find the quality porn sites that cater your niche. Sign up for their affiliate programs and try and promote them to your members. Selling (trial) memberships to my members accumulates to about 13-18% of the total income! It?s definitely worth it! To summarise: ?Why should I get into AVS?? Because you control everything!!! 1. You?ve built the galleries and will get the surfer to your site! 2. You?ve built the site so can get the surfer to sign up! 3. And it doesn?t stop there! You can even get the newly acquired members to sign up to other sites in your members section! You will never lose control over the traffic and can tweak everything to your advantage this way and create a site that works for you! I'd say, make use of that great advantage!!! Give it a try! Start by signing up with a good AVS right now! 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10-05-2004, 03:00 PM	#7
Sethseekstruth Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, va Posts: 588	I'll use this for my next site, then post the results. anyone want to spam me with sponsors, amature bdsm content, and html editors? __________________ https://www.niteflirt.com/pid/12631704

09-19-2004, 12:30 PM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	Nice job XXXDwarf . . . trust me, this guy knows what he is talking about. He was making signups before I even had a chance to review his site when he first joined up with SexPicturesPass . . . .in fact, I was one that suggested he should write a tutorial, he does very well for sure

10-03-2004, 02:11 PM	#6
groark So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1,966	Whoa nice one!

10-07-2004, 06:12 AM	#10
smokingdawn Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,808	Very nice post..thanks __________________ $35 Per FREE CC sign up on CONSOLE FREE video niched tours including cams. $50 Per free instant access join for all new affiliates. Ask me how! DawnG \|at\| adultalchemy.com ICQ: 428-655-109

10-09-2004, 10:46 AM	#12
DavidVH Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 300	very nicely written.

10-11-2004, 09:45 PM	#14
Steve_NCH Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 515	Quality post. I make 90% of my $$$ following that advice - a quality AVS site is well worth the time building and promoting.

11-07-2004, 11:08 AM	#15
69pornlinks Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Heranus Posts: 5,560	__________________ It IS what it IS

11-07-2004, 03:18 PM	#16
Davey911 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 89	Thx a lot __________________ Need a trusted sponsor? Maybe Topbucks is your solution...

11-08-2004, 03:56 PM	#17
soulboy Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 663	Great tutorial here. AVS is the best way to start in this biz

11-13-2004, 08:37 PM	#18
fusionx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Olongapo City, Philippines Posts: 4,618	Thanks for the article. It convinced me to try AVS sites for a while. I have a few TGPs and don't care for the amount of work they take vs. the income they generate. Working traffic trades and approving galleries takes quite a bit of time. AVS sites seem much easier to build, and only require a little updating if you run a recurring type site. Do you (or does anyone) use an AVS building tool, or do you build them by hand? I'm looking at AVSWizard - it seems to do all the grunt work and is really cheap - $100.00 I think. It looks like I could crank out 10 an hour with customizations. It also comes with a hub tool. Anyway, thanks again!

11-15-2004, 05:10 PM	#19
semium Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 45	thx a lot good post

04-03-2005, 08:20 PM	#20
nmcog Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 825	bump....

04-03-2005, 09:14 PM	#21
balls Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Northwest Posts: 14	OK, seeing how this IS my first post maybe you will forgive this lame ass question. WTF does AVS stand for? I am a webmaster with over 100 sites some with more then 25k pages, been doing this for 5 plus yrs. Just don't have ANY adult site experience. Plenty of website building experience though. Also own a small ISP and web hosting biz. I can work on any project 18 hrs a day until finished as all I do is set at the computer day and night. I need to get into something that with work and some investment I can make $$ with. The ISP biz aint making big $$ and my other sites are just doing ok nothing large. I don't expect 100k a month but would like to know what I can expect if I do OK. Can anyone venture a few suggestions as what you can make with average brains lots of work and persistence? This tutorial looks pretty good, I just need to get enough experience to know what everything is you guys are talking about. Then I'll rev up and see what I can do with this biz. Thanks

04-04-2005, 08:15 AM	#22
nadanada Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: hiya Posts: 330	AVS = Adult Verification Service I haven't messed around with them, but I'm pretty sure it works usually in conjunction with a promoter as a part of a webring per se, with several (usually several hundred) "free sites." __________________

04-04-2005, 06:07 PM	#23
Satan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Posts: 1,626	Nice post! XXXdwarf can you contact me on ICQ please? 106673119 __________________ WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

04-04-2005, 06:37 PM	#24
Playa-Deak Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,065	I never knew how to do AVS. Barely know what it is. I'm focusing ob zz tutorial/tip thread then I'm gonna give this some attention... Thnx for taking the time out to write this

04-04-2005, 07:23 PM	#25
Jimmy Rock Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Hollywood Posts: 3,055	Do you have any samples of a good AVS site? __________________ Jimmy Rock \| ICQ: 285 748 329 [email protected]

04-04-2005, 09:03 PM	#26
nadanada Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: hiya Posts: 330	thats a damn good question, because I really have no idea what an AVS looks like. I can only imagine possibly close to a pay site? __________________

04-04-2005, 09:53 PM	#28
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	I've never done AVS but your tutorial is great - right to the point, full of tips and a little hand-holding (in regards to who to use) never hurts. I may just try it out for cams (I know there are some - I'd offer free chat through co-branding inside the members section. Add some videos and photo galleries to round out the content).

04-05-2005, 02:03 PM	#30
nadanada Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: hiya Posts: 330	I'm going to test out the demo. __________________

06-04-2005, 07:06 PM	#31
fireorange Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,648	bumping an old but good thread.

06-05-2005, 04:11 PM	#35
Yahook Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Global traveler Posts: 840	Good thread, thanks XXXdwarf for your article, very good

12-29-2006, 09:47 AM	#36
aja006 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9	Is this still relevant? I think I bookmarked this quite awhile ago and just never got around to trying it.

12-29-2006, 01:55 PM	#37
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	yes it is