Gf wants us to start a solo girl site - how much can we make?

[Northman]

She's Asian, 9+ face / body IMO, takes it in the butt, etc. We have awesome camera equipment and experience shooting (not adult though), and travel a lot and have access to awesome locations, etc. How much could we expect to make if we decided to make a solo girl site with her? I know it's a tough question to answer, but ballpark, i.e. $1-2k/mo to start then $4-5k/mo after a year, etc. Give me some good/bad scenarios and how long it'll take to get to each. Also any other tips would be very very much appreciated. Thank you!

[dav3]

this thread lacks pics

[pamon]

without pics and traffic hard to tell. good luck

[HerPimp]

High quality daily updates and pushing full time 150k within 6 months.

[Tamashi]

Nobody can give you an accurate potential revenue. It depends on so many diffrent factors, and mainly your own time, effort and money you put in it will pay off. If you're planning to just get a website online, get some pictures and video's on it, and consider your work as done, you'll be dissapointed. However, if you do research and really try to push the website, you might be making thousands of dollars a month. It's in your own hands.

[Northman]

Originally Posted by HerPimp

High quality daily updates and pushing full time 150k within 6 months.

Holy crap, really? So that's both of us working full time, or just her? And doing what, mainly advertising and creating backlinks, or you mean like her being on the webcam all day or something? Also, time-wise she can put in 40-60 hrs / wk, but I have a full-time job so I can maybe put in 10-15 hours / wk, 20 tops. So with that in mind do you mean we'd get to 150k/yr revenue within 6 months, or 150k/yr profit after our bills are paid? Also, is hosting and such a major expense, because I know it was years ago but hosting seems fairly cheap now?

Originally Posted by Tamashi

Nobody can give you an accurate potential revenue. It depends on so many diffrent factors, and mainly your own time, effort and money you put in it will pay off. If you're planning to just get a website online, get some pictures and video's on it, and consider your work as done, you'll be dissapointed. However, if you do research and really try to push the website, you might be making thousands of dollars a month. It's in your own hands.

Thanks for your feedback - if we do this, we'll do it properly so we'll be able to invest a good amount of time (see my reply just above), and we have money to invest too if needed. We also have really good locations and equipment (our cameras costs many thousands each), and I'm really good with Premiere, Photoshop, etc, so quality-wise we'll be top notch. Can you give me some more info though please: i.e. if we invest x time and x money, we'll get z money within z months.

[b00neRenf]

Well if you invest x money and x time
and you want z money within z months
your content (Y) has to be promoted well
where's the pics already show us some preview (.)(.) and (uu) and you might get some better numbers to fill the xyz account with

[anicetan]

Post pix

[lacuna]

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[Northman]

Random webcam pic.

P.S. She's getting a nose job soon.

[Agent 488]

easily millions.

[dav3]

Originally Posted by Northman

Random webcam pic.

P.S. She's getting a nose job soon.

She's pretty hot and would probably do well.

I don't see what is wrong with her nose though.

Definitely have her sign up and do cam shows so she can start building up fans for when/if you launch a site for her.


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[pornguy]

She looks like she would do very well. But its not how much can you make, its how much do you want to earn.

Contact Czarina at info at wedesig.net she might have an offer for you that you dont want to refuse.

[b00neRenf]

She's very hott and since she is interested you should go with it and put in overtime to get the site up. I think she would do perfect be sure and advertise and follow up with links when you have it up and running.

Nothing wrong with her nose I'm my opinion

[Northman]

Originally Posted by pornguy

She looks like she would do very well. But its not how much can you make, its how much do you want to earn.

Sorry, please explain. We really need to get the money question answered before we can commit to this: I understand it's impossible to predict 100%, but we'd like to at least see some guesstimates based on amount of effort put in, etc. Reason being that we really don't wanna sink 6 months (or whatever) of hard work to get this started and then find out that we're only making a measely 1k/mo or something. So my question is: can we make 5k/mo and if so, how long and with how many hrs / wk effort? How about 10k/mo: in how long and with how many hrs / wk effort? How about 15k/mo?

[dav3]

She can start making killer money doing webcam shows right away. Being able to play the crowd and having a good cam/connection will help greatly to get members to spend.

[beerptrol]

I have to agree, have her do cam shows. She earns money that can be used towards her site and builds a fan base she can upsell her site to

[Tippy]

Originally Posted by dav3

She can start making killer money doing webcam shows right away. Being able to play the crowd and having a good cam/connection will help greatly to get members to spend.

That sounds like the ideal way to start...

Your woman looks fine to me, including the nose, how is she in the booty department

[HDADULT]

She would do well on webcam for sure. Go to Live Jasmin and sign up. They have established traffic and its plug n play.

[Northman]

Originally Posted by Northman

We really need to get the money question answered before we can commit to this: I understand it's impossible to predict 100%, but we'd like to at least see some guesstimates based on amount of effort put in, etc. Reason being that we really don't wanna sink 6 months (or whatever) of hard work to get this started and then find out that we're only making a measely 1k/mo or something. So my question is: can we make 5k/mo and if so, how long and with how many hrs / wk effort? How about 10k/mo: in how long and with how many hrs / wk effort? How about 15k/mo?

Anyone?

[Arnox]

What do you want us to say? Your question has been answered; you need to test the water and see for yourself - there's really no ball park someone can give you.

Do yourself a favor and stop looking for reassurance from people on these forums. Devote some time and see for yourself. The equation is pretty simple...

Hot girl
Camera
Pay to see

=

Money

That's your market research, that's your verbal contract and should be more than enough to spark you in to the industry.

FYI, 90% of the solo girl sites I review are shit. Get a name for yourself, do webcam shows, update with good content more than once a week and get a decent name for yourself.

[Bhunter]

Originally Posted by Northman

Anyone?

There is no money in porn. Take that for granted!

[Tamashi]

As many are suggesting, don't be in a hurry with launching a website. Please check out >> this link for monthly earning numbers <<. It shows some of the webcam earnings you CAN make. These numbers are not faked, and your girlfriend could be making them too.

Besides, when she has become a popular webcam model with many interested subscribers who KNOW AND WANT her, launching a website will also be easier, as your old "customers" will probably follow aswell.

So yeah, I would very much recommend you, like many others did already... Start with a webcam, when that is successful, go live with a website. It's a win/win situation really. You've got nothing to lose, and while "trying out" the adult industry by webcams, she will also be making money without investing anything yourself. You could even go this way to gather all the money you need to launch a website, without paying it for it yourself.

Once again, nobody can give you numbers on earnings with a paysite, but as a webcam performer, not much can go wrong, you won't be losing anything

- LiveJasmin: #1 performing webcam website currently on the net
- WebCams - Another very high converting webcam website.

Both of these offer whitelabels to ANY webmaster signed up with their affiliate program, which means your girlfriend will be on hundreds, even thousands of diffrent sites just by signup up as a performer for these

So my advice in short: become a webcam performer > earn money > build "fans" > start a paysite > earn even more money > combine webcams and a paysite for maximum earnings.

Setting up a paysite is something very complicated btw, you'll have to think of legal documents, an affiliate program, promoting your website, promoting your girlfriend, invest alot of money and time on the server / host / design / [...]

Well it's not impossible, but starting a paysite brings great risks. You might never make any money at all and lose your investments, with the webcam concep mentioned above you've got nothing to lose. When she has enough fans and subscribers, starting a paysite will be alot safer than starting it now while nobody knows her. Where are you gonna get the traffic from? They're all things you need to consider

Good luck

[RadicalSights]

I can build your tour for you. icq me

[livecarlo]

Northman could you e-mail me for a private discussion on this?

carlo.manasi gmail.com

[Northman]

Thanks for the cam advise folks - we'll definitely take it into consideration. However, one thing I noticed from the "LiveJasmin Top 5 Earners" link someone posted above is that these girls "only" make about $5k/mo, and they're the top 5 of tens of thousands of performers... so how much time per day do they spend on the cam to get that $5k (12 hrs / day?) and how much do 99% of the other girls make ($2-3k tops?). Doesn't really seem like a lot of money for that line of work and amount of time?

[Tamashi]

Originally Posted by Northman

Thanks for the cam advise folks - we'll definitely take it into consideration. However, one thing I noticed from the "LiveJasmin Top 5 Earners" link someone posted above is that these girls "only" make about $5k/mo, and they're the top 5 of tens of thousands of performers... so how much time per day do they spend on the cam to get that $5k (12 hrs / day?) and how much do 99% of the other girls make ($2-3k tops?). Doesn't really seem like a lot of money for that line of work and amount of time?

The idea is that you're online for multiple webcam sites at the same time, and get paid from each of them. Nobody says you ave to limit yourself to one webcam sponsor, you can login to multiple at once, stream and whenever there's a private (paid) chat, put all of your running streams on "private". Also, most cam sponsors allow you to set your own price per minute (within reasonable limits ofcourse). Usually you can ask up to $4.99 PER minute. Or go as low as $0.99 per minute, it's up to you. How much you'll earn per hour on effective private shows? Well, up to $4.99 per minute of "work"

[Porko]

if you want to make some extra bucks....
http://www.seemygf.com/submit/submit-gf.php

[HerPimp]

Do you have what it takes? Probably not. Odds are against you from making it in this business. People that have been in this business for 10 years are not able to cut it these days. Competition is global and people who think what they did in a month was alot of work, others do it in a day.

The worst salesmen can make more money than the best if he has more customers to sell to. You can have the best design and hottest chicks but that doesnt amount to shit.

Hard working webmasters have pulled off six figures with fatties on basic html.

[ez12]

The first thing you need to do is get her noticed online.. Start a free blog (you can create a members area behing an AVS system), let her work for some camsites and sell some content.. As soon as the name is there you can set up the site. Key is a good affiliate program and an original design for the site.. Their are many solo girl sites out there so its gonna be a though journey!

[livecarlo]

If you're willing to do a revenue sharing partnership, I could set her up with her own paysite for no cost to you. You guys would supply the content and daily blog updates and I'll handle site maintenance, marketing, and affiliate support. We'll start off making a couple grand a month easily, the big money will take some effort though.

[AngelBasement$]

Just like any business you really need to get your feet wet in order to do well. Just do not expect to make big bucks just caused my girlfriend is getting naked. Being naked is just the beginning. You need to do a lot more in order to earn the big bucks and it will not happen overnight for sure.

[The Duck]

First have her try the webcam game. See if the crowd likes her.

[Northman]

Originally Posted by Northman

We really need to get the money question answered before we can commit to this: I understand it's impossible to predict 100%, but we'd like to at least see some guesstimates based on amount of effort put in, etc. Reason being that we really don't wanna sink 6 months (or whatever) of hard work to get this started and then find out that we're only making a measely 1k/mo or something. So my question is: can we make 5k/mo and if so, how long and with how many hrs / wk effort? How about 10k/mo: in how long and with how many hrs / wk effort? How about 15k/mo?

Can anyone answer this please?

[bmchunu]

Have you got an ass or full body pic?

Face (nose) looks good too.

What is she prepared to do? Would she do some Girl/Girl or the odd fuck??

You need to provide more information and details if you expect to get a better estimate on the earning ... and remember at the end of the day it will still be just an estimate.

[meanguy7]

I think what you are looking for is called a guarantee. Wrong business to be looking for one of those?. Although, if we see a few ass pics we might be able to give you the info you require

[HowlingWulf]

Some solo girl sites make it and some don't. Sounds like you just want to show up and collect $15k/mo. This business is work and you get what you put into it.

[Northman]

Originally Posted by bmchunu

Have you got an ass or full body pic?

Face (nose) looks good too.

What is she prepared to do? Would she do some Girl/Girl or the odd fuck??

You need to provide more information and details if you expect to get a better estimate on the earning ... and remember at the end of the day it will still be just an estimate.

Yep she likes girls so that's 100% fine and I guess the 'odd fuck' with yours truly may be ok too down the road. Here are a few crappy cell phone pics she just emailed me. Note that in real life and other photos, her ass looks bigger than it does on the 1st pic and her tits look smaller than they do on the 2nd (weird optics of the cell cam I guess but it's quite a big difference).

Originally Posted by meanguy7

I think what you are looking for is called a guarantee. Wrong business to be looking for one of those?. Although, if we see a few ass pics we might be able to give you the info you require

The only guarantee I want is that if we work hard and work smart and provide a great service, that we'll actually make good money. Like I said our goal is $5k/mo profit after 6 mo and we wanna know that it's actually possible if we work really hard, put up tons of updates, network with affiliates like crazy, etc, etc. We don't wanna spend all that time and money and then end up with like $1k/mo, I hope that's understandable.

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

Some solo girl sites make it and some don't. Sounds like you just want to show up and collect $15k/mo. This business is work and you get what you put into it.

No, not really. We don't mind making little or nothing for the first few or even 6 months. But we wanna make $5k/mo profit after 6 months and if we can make more later that's great but we'd be content with $5k/mo profit once we've paid our dues so to speak.

[dav3]

With a body and face like that, she could already have some loyal webcam fans foaming at the mouth to see an exclusive site with her.

Gotta get that ball rolling, instead of holding it and dreaming about where it's going to end up.

[avrevenue]

Originally Posted by dav3

She can start making killer money doing webcam shows right away. Being able to play the crowd and having a good cam/connection will help greatly to get members to spend.

I agree, we run some solo sites and Asian girls, and they were doing cam first and earn good money with that, and then upsell to the paysite for hi res photos and exclusive videos

[latte]

One thing you could be doing is shooting content now. You will need a lot of content. Do the web cam thing like others are saying and set up a second HD camera to shoot the private sessions from a different angle. This can be some fresh content down the road. With a face and body like that she will do pretty well. Once you set up a site you will need an affiliate program to partner with. I know this is an old post but that's my 2cents. You might think about having her shoot a scene or two with the pornpros. they have a site called 18yearsold.com

[meanguy7]

You said in your first post "have awesome camera equipment and experience shooting" but all three sample pics suck. If you want to be taken seriously you should be prepared.

[Northman]

Originally Posted by dav3

With a body and face like that, she could already have some loyal webcam fans foaming at the mouth to see an exclusive site with her.

Gotta get that ball rolling, instead of holding it and dreaming about where it's going to end up.

No point getting a ball rolling until we know where its gonna end up. I know you're eager to make some affiliate $ off this but please help us figure this out first.

Originally Posted by latte

One thing you could be doing is shooting content now. You will need a lot of content. Do the web cam thing like others are saying and set up a second HD camera to shoot the private sessions from a different angle. This can be some fresh content down the road. With a face and body like that she will do pretty well. Once you set up a site you will need an affiliate program to partner with. I know this is an old post but that's my 2cents. You might think about having her shoot a scene or two with the pornpros. they have a site called 18yearsold.com

Hey, great idea with the 2nd cam! Once again though, why can't anyone answer how much money can be made with these solo girl sites? Is it even worth it? Such a simple question...

Originally Posted by meanguy7

You said in your first post "have awesome camera equipment and experience shooting" but all three sample pics suck. If you want to be taken seriously you should be prepared.

Haha, those are just her own cell phone pics - I've never taken any of her. I do have really good equipment as I just happen to be a hobbyist photographer.

[bmchunu]

$5K a month after 6 months is certainly doable.

1. You both will have to work your butts of between now and then. Start off with cam (multiple sites) as suggested earlier. This will be low risk and minimal investment.

2. Re-invest/save all the profit from the first 6 months into/for the solo site.

It can be done .. you need to go for it 100% and believe you can do it!!!

[donteattuna]

You have gotten some very good advice in this thread. Tamashi has given you good things to think about.
A note on webcam work, they have to deal with lots of people who are losers just saying stand up turn around take off your clothes etc for free. If they get upset and ignore people they won't get money from the few paying customers who are also on the site.
Of the few dozen asian girls I've worked with the earnings were low. Livejasmin is reputed to be one of the highest earnings sites. The girls I work with are on other competing sites. They can be decent looking and earn as little as a dollar an hour. There are thousands of girls working webcams. How hot their shows are is a big factor in their earnings, more so even than their looks. Some "7" girls earn 10x what many "9" looking girls earn.
If you do your own solo site, I can guarantee you can lose as much as $10,000 a month with payouts if you choose. Possible earnings, well a few people are rich I'm sure, not me.
I've paid the girls all the money I received from the webcam sites, (like only a few $hundred a month typically), because it isn't enough for me to take profits and them to pay the bills. They gave you examples of top earnings possibilities, commonly it is not as lucrative for the average girl as you seem to expect.
Think about it, how many hot girls worldwide do you think are out there that would do sex shows for $5,000 a month? Answer: millions.
Like so many guys tried to tell you above, many things have to come together to make it into a decent salary. And so far you haven't even provided any quality samples of her ability to work, or ability to shoot quality video, so I'd say from what we have seen we can estimate she'll earn nearly nothin' to write home about.
Come to think of it, it's not too different than girls who want to go do Hollywood and be famous actresses. Sure can happen. But don't quit your day job

BTW: Breast augmentation and tatoos can have a negative impact on their marketability.

[donteattuna]

One more thought on working with girls AND their boyfriends and significant others.
I retracted an offer of work with a model who showed up with her recently married husband. It's not for the reason you are thinking.
It's a business, and if that guy has some unreasonable expectations, HE will be much more likely a problem for me down the road than the girl who was treated and paid well.
He might well end up demanding extra money outside the contract and or demand pulling her work from the site because now he wants it hidden due to possible embarrassment etc.
It's easy for a guy to think his GF or wife should be paid WAY more than the fair amount or else...

I know you are mostly speaking of working independently. It is something to think about for other guys reading this thinking of havin' their gf's work porn to earn extra $$. Like if the model shows up with a guy and said "he's my cousin and came along for my safety", I'd be like, cool, good thinking...please wait outside the room, if she needs you she'll call, and proceed to work. Or have the dude act tough and say "she's mine", and see how many want to work with her now

[Lassitor]

Originally Posted by Northman

She's Asian, 9+ face / body IMO, takes it in the butt, etc. We have awesome camera equipment and experience shooting (not adult though), and travel a lot and have access to awesome locations, etc. How much could we expect to make if we decided to make a solo girl site with her? I know it's a tough question to answer, but ballpark, i.e. $1-2k/mo to start then $4-5k/mo after a year, etc. Give me some good/bad scenarios and how long it'll take to get to each. Also any other tips would be very very much appreciated. Thank you!

Your girl is a hottie, but it really all depend on how much she wants to make...not just in money but in content. Girls that limit themselves to one man severely limit their income and their ability to get their content syndicated or folded in to a larger pay system where some serious cash can be made.

Porn is also a lot of work...not only for the girls but you have to have really good photography and video...not something that just anyone can do. Good porn is also not just watching a girl fuck but its watching how she interacts with the scene and how she deals with the guy. Introducing her to different situations, different scenes and such is always good fun.

If your content is good, then post some of your best samples here and I can assure you that webmasters and promoters will help you out.

Best of luck,
Lassitor

[Lassitor]

Originally Posted by donteattuna

One more thought on working with girls AND their boyfriends and significant others.
I retracted an offer of work with a model who showed up with her recently married husband. It's not for the reason you are thinking.
It's a business, and if that guy has some unreasonable expectations, HE will be much more likely a problem for me down the road than the girl who was treated and paid well.
He might well end up demanding extra money outside the contract and or demand pulling her work from the site because now he wants it hidden due to possible embarrassment etc.
It's easy for a guy to think his GF or wife should be paid WAY more than the fair amount or else...

I know you are mostly speaking of working independently. It is something to think about for other guys reading this thinking of havin' their gf's work porn to earn extra $$. Like if the model shows up with a guy and said "he's my cousin and came along for my safety", I'd be like, cool, good thinking...please wait outside the room, if she needs you she'll call, and proceed to work. Or have the dude act tough and say "she's mine", and see how many want to work with her now

donteattuna has spoken the truth in everything said. The Cam work is not easy, lots of sitting around waiting for someone to come in, and then they want you to show for free and get mad if you don't and leave. If a customer starts paying for a show and it is NOT hot within the first minute, they simple end the session and you make almost nothing.

I recommend that you first try Rude.com as a means to see if you and her got what it takes to make a living at this. There is no risk to you, and yes you can earn money from the site...but it depends on you! If you do well there, then you should pursue other cam sites, websites and other adult sites. Most girls don't because they don't want to put in the time or work with others outside of the BF/Husband.

Pay for porn work for the most part is overblown. Girls who can "act" and who have the looks know what they are worth and can demand it or go elsewhere and get it. However, Los Angeles is nothing like Portland Oregon, where I am at, so a girl who wants $600/scene in LA may be lucky to get $250 here...and I am speaking of a girl who has a porn body and attitude to match it.

Girls who are the "Average hottie" but not porn star material, are not going to get porn star wages. $100 to $200 a scene is about what to be expected, far less for a MILF, BBW, or girl who is is more average than hot.

A friend of mine who is a Plane Jane type of girl wanted to be a porn actress. At the interview they took her photos (nude) and then told her that they did not have any pay work for her but did have scenes where they needed many nude girls. She took the no pay job just to get in with the company who later hired her as crew for other projects where they needed a girl on set to manage the models.

The point of this is that if any girl (or guy) thinks that porn is a wealth building path, they need to think again. Those who make millions in this business are often the exception, not the rule. The numbers that people promote about their sales and income should all be noted as "Results not typical".

[donteattuna]

ah nvm, just mostly a repeat of what lassitor just said.

[HomerSimpson]

she looks fine...
I guess she could make some good cash