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_Richard_ 10-14-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18491506)
Green manufacturing, while noble is not going to put people to work like other industry manufacturing jobs will, please show me a Green Factory that Obama backed with the stimulus that had success? Because I've been hearing about are the ones that failed or fell short.

And remember , Obama wants more money to do the same

a lot of very important people on more than one continent disagree with you

however, it's very curious to see who devalued solar energy in order to kill these US companies, yet not chinese or european

again, i have no idea why you're so stuck on this stimulus infrastructure spending, when there is far more juicer pieces floating around

tony286 10-14-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18491406)
The Bush team tried to conditionally approve the Solyndra loan just before President Obama took office.
The company?s backers included private investors who had diverse political interests.
The loan comprises just 1.3% of DOE?s overall loan portfolio. To date, Solyndra is the only loan that?s known to be troubled.

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/0...oan-guarantee/

please stop with facts !

tony286 10-14-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18491687)
a lot of very important people on more than one continent disagree with you

however, it's very curious to see who devalued solar energy in order to kill these US companies, yet not chinese or european

again, i have no idea why you're so stuck on this stimulus infrastructure spending, when there is far more juicer pieces floating around

yep thats why china invested 30 billion in green energy and own solar which we created in america.

_Richard_ 10-14-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18491733)
yep thats why china invested 30 billion in green energy and own solar which we created in america.

to the point where one could say that anyone who speaks out against green energy is dirty communist

and everyone who backs the tea party is an iranian sympathizer

if koch is making money selling parts to Iran..

vsex 10-14-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18491456)
OK, instead of bringing up the past presidents that did this, let me ask you guys, does that make it right it happened again and since it happened once with this president, do you think it won't happen again enough to vote for him again since he's pushing for more funds to apparently do this again?

did you ask yourself the same thing when you voted for Bush for the second time?

INever 10-14-2011 01:44 PM

Magic 8 ball says "spin again".

Gouge 10-14-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18491406)
The Bush team tried to conditionally approve the Solyndra loan just before President Obama took office.
The company?s backers included private investors who had diverse political interests.
The loan comprises just 1.3% of DOE?s overall loan portfolio. To date, Solyndra is the only loan that?s known to be troubled.

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/0...oan-guarantee/

The White House noted to ABC News that the Bush administration was the first to consider Solyndra's application and that some executives at the company have a history of donating to Republicans.

The results of the Congressional probe shared Tuesday with ABC News show that less than two weeks before President Bush left office, on January 9, 2009, the Energy Department's credit committee had voted against offering a loan commitment to Solyndra.

Even after Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, analysts in the Energy Department and in the Office of Management and Budget were repeatedly questioning the wisdom of the loan. In one exchange, an Energy official wrote of "a major outstanding issue" -- namely, that Solyndra's numbers showed it would run out of cash in September 2011.

There was also concern about the high-risk nature of the project. Internally, the Office of Management and Budget wrote that "the risk rating for the project sponsor [Solyndra] ? seems high." Outside analysts had warned for months that the company might not be a sound investment.

Peter Lynch, a New York-based solar energy analyst, told ABC News it took only a cursory glance through Solyndra's prospectus to see there was a problem with their numbers.

"It's very difficult to perceive a company with a model that says, well, I can build something for six dollars and sell it for three dollars," Lynch said. "Those numbers don't generally work. You don't want to lose three dollars for every unit you make."

Gouge 10-14-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18491827)
did you ask yourself the same thing when you voted for Bush for the second time?

Will you when you vote for Barry?

crowkid 10-14-2011 02:02 PM

wow you guys sound so excited about voting for him, im sure he has a great chance to win then lol. I remember all of you crying and believing in this change bullshit back in '08, crying , fainting in the crowds. Fucking idiots.

_Richard_ 10-14-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18491842)
The White House noted to ABC News that the Bush administration was the first to consider Solyndra's application and that some executives at the company have a history of donating to Republicans.

The results of the Congressional probe shared Tuesday with ABC News show that less than two weeks before President Bush left office, on January 9, 2009, the Energy Department's credit committee had voted against offering a loan commitment to Solyndra.

Even after Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, analysts in the Energy Department and in the Office of Management and Budget were repeatedly questioning the wisdom of the loan. In one exchange, an Energy official wrote of "a major outstanding issue" -- namely, that Solyndra's numbers showed it would run out of cash in September 2011.

There was also concern about the high-risk nature of the project. Internally, the Office of Management and Budget wrote that "the risk rating for the project sponsor [Solyndra] ? seems high." Outside analysts had warned for months that the company might not be a sound investment.

Peter Lynch, a New York-based solar energy analyst, told ABC News it took only a cursory glance through Solyndra's prospectus to see there was a problem with their numbers.

"It's very difficult to perceive a company with a model that says, well, I can build something for six dollars and sell it for three dollars," Lynch said. "Those numbers don't generally work. You don't want to lose three dollars for every unit you make."

http://www.grist.org/solar-power/201...-for-two-years

i got links.. where are yours?

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You have to read half the story to learn that the loan guarantee was made in 2009, and the audit was done in 2010, after market conditions had sharply worsened. And the Bloomberg story never explains that the company itself raised $250 million from private investors after the supposedly devastating audit.

To set the record straight, Climate Progress is publishing this timeline -- verified by Department of Energy officials -- that shows how the loan guarantee came together under both administrations. In fact, rather than rushing the loan for Solyndra through, the Obama administration restructured the original Bush-era deal to further protect the taxpayers' investment:

icymelon 10-14-2011 02:25 PM

think it will be close depends on how well repubs cheat

Overload 10-14-2011 02:55 PM

well, he has to deal with the rubble the gwb mismanagement left for him as legacy ... i bet america will blame HIM for that ... so, no, i dont think he will make it again

acctman 10-14-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetcuties (Post 18490687)
I'll vote for him again :thumbsup

ditto :thumbsup

Vendzilla 10-14-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18491733)
yep thats why china invested 30 billion in green energy and own solar which we created in america.

30 billion of undervalued currency?

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18491845)
Will you when you vote for Barry?

LOL

Dead 10-14-2011 04:17 PM

RING THE BELLLLLLLLLLLLL.......
No

Theo 10-14-2011 04:42 PM

He has raised several times more funds for his campaign than anyone else so far. He can literally buy his way in through the media.

The Demon 10-14-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload (Post 18491967)
well, he has to deal with the rubble the gwb mismanagement left for him as legacy ... i bet america will blame HIM for that ... so, no, i dont think he will make it again

Sure, that's a good argument... If we ignore the epic failure of a mess his administration has left that makes Bush seem like Bush lite.

VikingMan 10-14-2011 05:35 PM

Here is an interesting scenario....Obama's handlers tell him he needs to pick Mrs Clinton as his VP. Obama gets reelected. Obama gets killed in a false flag attack (since he is not really "one of them") by another patsy war veteran (they love using veterans as patsies right?). This fuels racial discord. Riots ensue. The Clintons are back in the White House. The bankers/financiers are forgotten.

DBS.US 10-14-2011 06:02 PM

ABO - Anyone Butt Obama

dodger21 10-14-2011 06:04 PM

I love how you fucking idiots who know nothing keep talking in absolutes

kane 10-14-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ******* (Post 18492260)
Here is an interesting scenario....Obama's handlers tell him he needs to pick Mrs Clinton as his VP. Obama gets reelected. Obama gets killed in a false flag attack (since he is not really "one of them") by another patsy war veteran (they love using veterans as patsies right?). This fuels racial discord. Riots ensue. The Clintons are back in the White House. The bankers/financiers are forgotten.

I actually think that he will stick with Biden for now, but if he wins re-election Biden will likely step down and he will make Clinton VP which puts her in a prime spot to run at the end of his second term.

Matt 26z 10-14-2011 07:39 PM

The Republicans need to nominate Newt Gingrich. None of them can match Obama's debate skills, but Newt is the only one that Obama can't walk all over.

The expanding 99% movement could rally liberal voters and not only put Obama back in, but give Congress back to the Dems. I think these protests are going to grow dangerously large next year and the potential is there for political riots in the US for the first time in decades.

How the left felt in 2004 when Bush got re-elected is how the right will feel in 2012. I think they will be even more crushed though. Conservatives know that an Obama win and losing congressional seats would be a serious blow to modern conservatism (which is already on life support).

IMO the only man that could have done it for the Republicans is Donald Trump, but he was never serious. It was a publicity stunt. His life is too comfortable as a Wall Street celebrity.

Jakez 10-14-2011 08:05 PM

I think 4 years is far too short of a time for one administration to make a real change. It's just enough time for them to begin unraveling the previous administrations ball of knots and then boom they put someone else with a different plan in there and repeat.. hope he gets re-elected.

TurboAngel 10-14-2011 08:49 PM

I hope the hell not.

buzzard 10-14-2011 09:06 PM

Having a hard time figuring out why anybody would even ask the question :upsidedow

GregE 10-14-2011 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzard (Post 18492459)
Having a hard time figuring out why anybody would even ask the question :upsidedow

Historically presidents (almost) never get reelected when the economy is in the shitter.

Roosevelt was an exception primarily because his opponent(s) were perceived as offering nothing except more of that which precipitated the country's economic collapse.

Obama too will be reelected for precisely the same reason.

Brad Mitchell 10-14-2011 09:30 PM

Without reading any part of this thread... I hope he does not get re-elected.

Brad

FiReC 10-14-2011 10:12 PM

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

anexsia 10-14-2011 10:56 PM

Can't vote, felon...so I'm relying on GFY to make the right decision :thumbsup

GARY LEE 10-14-2011 11:23 PM

Obama? I can't believe anyone would even consider voting for him.

Check out our interview on youtube.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4ZWa5sS_Z8A

DWB 10-14-2011 11:38 PM

Regardless of who is actually responsible, it all fell apart on Obama's watch. Then it got worse, and continues to worsen. I assume they will polish the turd a bit when it comes election time, and the world will fall for it as they usually do, but the band-aid will fall off once he's reelected. He's such a smooth talker and he's going to have a gazillion dollars to spend on his campaign.

I hope he doesn't get reelected, but I think he will.

cherrylula 10-15-2011 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dodger21 (Post 18492290)
I love how you fucking idiots who know nothing keep talking in absolutes

sssshhhhhhhhh :1orglaugh

GregE 10-15-2011 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18492571)
I hope he doesn't get reelected, but I think he will.

The only problem with Obama not getting reelected is that some bible thumping, "Oh my God I saw a naughty picture on the interwebs !", "Let them eat cake" type will be elected in his place.

Personally, I'm still waiting for none of the above to announce his or her candidacy.

TheSquealer 10-15-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18491450)
ahh this was an economic war with china

the US lost

China is crumbling right now and when they fall, they will fall very hard. Their looming financial problems are well beyond the scope and scale of any other developed nation and they have yet to crash.
:2 cents:

TheSquealer 10-15-2011 08:19 AM

BTW.. not sure why people who think a guy who got elected simply by chanting "hope and change" and "yes we can" - can't get elected again just as easily.

Ronzo 10-15-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nextri (Post 18490672)
Without any good alternatives I can't see how not. Every single one of the republican candidates so far are completely unelectable.

You can make that observation from Norway? Man, you're good, stunningly insightful and super smart.

SuckOnThis 10-15-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by See Cig (Post 18491438)
no one mentioned Ron Paul in this thread.


I think most are embarrassed about his eyebrow toupee falling off.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Dk5...row-toupee.jpg

GregE 10-15-2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18493042)
BTW.. not sure why people who think a guy who got elected simply by chanting "hope and change" and "yes we can" - can't get elected again just as easily.

The problem with voting against that guy is that you then have to vote for someone else.

Have you taken a good look at the selection of someone else's lately?

We're talking the bar scene from the first Star Wars movie here.

pornmasta 10-15-2011 04:40 PM

Yes, HE CAN

pornmasta 10-15-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 18493099)
I think most are embarrassed about his eyebrow toupee falling off.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Dk5...row-toupee.jpg

there is a picture of paul markham in this thread !


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