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Brent 3dSexCash 12-11-2011 06:38 PM

He's 7 and 1 since becoming QB.

And the Bears covered the spread, that's all that counts.

kane 12-11-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 18622683)
So Barber ran out of bounds on his own? ( couldn't tell on radio )

Denver must be going nuts!

I live in Orlando and our only sports Franchise is the Magic. We are about to lose our superstar center and spend the next five years sucking.

The game was televised where I live. Barber ran out of bounds on his own. Had he slid down and stayed in bounds the game would have been over.

adendreams 12-11-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kronic (Post 18572082)
This isn't College football.

There is not a single NFL analyst I've heard say that Tebow will be a successful NFL quarterback. On the other hand, there isn't a single NFL analyst that doesn't respect what he brings to the table in terms of running ability, inspiration, inner strength etc. But when his teammates see that he can't win every game on inspiration alone, they WILL start to lose faith in him as well. That is when he'll ultimately fail.

Tebow will at BEST be a .500 quarterback. In two years MAX he'll be a backup or the starter on a bad and/or desperate team. In four or five years, he'll be in the booth as one of the more entertaining analysts himself.

It's hard not to like the guy regardless of his anti-choice stance, but it's easy to say (and shows stats WHY) he'll never be a long term success in the NFL.

Delusions of grandeur > Tebow

Im not a big Denver or Tebow fan... but your predictions are looking like they could be very VERY offbase :2 cents::2 cents:

PornMD 12-11-2011 06:58 PM

Jeez, was Barber paid off or something? I didn't see the game and don't know the exact circumstances, but from the sound of things he fucked up a no-brainer decision.

Shit, Chargers would've only been a game back. :(

justinsain 12-11-2011 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 18622742)
Jeez, was Barber paid off or something? I didn't see the game and don't know the exact circumstances, but from the sound of things he fucked up a no-brainer decision.

Shit, Chargers would've only been a game back. :(

That brain fart gave Denver enough time to tie the game.

Bears get first possession in overtime and drive into field goal range.

In an attempt to get just a little bit closer Barber hits the hole and thinks he's going to score and gets stripped from behind and Denver recovers.

Denver then drives to get the winning FG.

justinsain awards Barber MVP :)

ThunderBalls 12-11-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18622717)
So you think people are serious when they say God has a favorite football player? Are you that stupid?

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Have you been on a deserted island the past 2 months?

L-Pink 12-11-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 18622759)
Have you been on a deserted island the past 2 months?

I was commenting to the post above me where starving children became an issue because I SARCASTICALLY said "God must have a favorite football player"

But a 2 month island vacation would be nice.

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Mutt 12-11-2011 10:32 PM

I don't get it - why can't he play to that same level in the first 3 quarters? It's an amazing story, like out of a movie.

But to put it into perspective, imagine if Tebow was on the Buffalo Bills, who have no defense at all. What if Tebow was quarterbacking a team that was down 14 points in the first quarter, 21 points at halftime? The Denver defense is making his 4th quarter heroics possible.

But what you see in the 4th quarter does make you think that the experts were wrong and that he can play QB in the NFL, maybe eventually a top one, he'll never be a great passer, but he could be a very good QB if he just becomes a decent passer. I wonder what he will be in 3 years, 5 years.

justinsain 12-12-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18622913)
I don't get it - why can't he play to that same level in the first 3 quarters? It's an amazing story, like out of a movie.

But to put it into perspective, imagine if Tebow was on the Buffalo Bills, who have no defense at all. What if Tebow was quarterbacking a team that was down 14 points in the first quarter, 21 points at halftime? The Denver defense is making his 4th quarter heroics possible.

But what you see in the 4th quarter does make you think that the experts were wrong and that he can play QB in the NFL, maybe eventually a top one, he'll never be a great passer, but he could be a very good QB if he just becomes a decent passer. I wonder what he will be in 3 years, 5 years.

I think the coaches keep him on a tight leash for most of the game. He still has a lot to learn and gains valuable experience with every game. QBs like Brady and Rogers can be left to do what they do and its amazing to watch them.

My guess is the coaches give Tebow a safe play and tell him to stick to it and not force anything that might create a turnover. They let the defense keep the score low and hope to get just a little more than the opponents while playing safe. His passing has improved even though the stats don't reflect it due to receivers dropping catchable balls like the one yesterday that would have been an easy TD.

Tebow has performed very well in the fourth quarter and its been exciting to watch. My prediction is they will stay with this strategy for the rest of their season and next year they will loosen the leash on Tebow as he grows into his position.

Next Sunday they play the Pats and most likely will have to play more aggressive earlier.

You're right that it plays out like a movie. I saw that commercial he has with the sports drink for the first time last night and it made me smile. Something tells me they may have to add to it at the end of the season.

Giants vs Cowboys last night was an awesome game too. So much great football right now and it really makes the NBA look like a bunch of clowns.

CDSmith 12-12-2011 10:06 AM

Coach needs to hire a hypnotist to make Tebow believe that EVERY quarter is the 4th.

Then they'd be able to cover the damn spread.

JP-pornshooter 12-12-2011 12:35 PM

defense and their kicker won that game for yesterday, i wouldnt give Tebow much credit for the win.

Bryan G 12-12-2011 01:32 PM

I hope someone takes his Bible thumping ass out.

raymor 12-12-2011 01:47 PM

You really can't argue work the simple fact of winning every game after his first start. Comparing to a superstar at the same point in his pro career, Tebow > Elway.

VikingMan 12-12-2011 01:50 PM

His pastor just came out and publicly stated that Tebow is winning because God wants him to win. You know what that means......Broncos will lose the next game :1orglaugh

Mutt 12-12-2011 02:21 PM

Colin Cowherd today said what I think is true - the reason Tebow starts completing passes in the 4th quarter is that teams are up on the Broncos every week, 10 points or better. So they do the stupidest thing in football and I never understand why coaches do it, it backfires more than I see it work - the prevent defense, which is all about not giving up quick deep touchdowns. This plays right into Tebow's hands, the defense allows short passes and runs as they have their secondary hanging back protecting against the deep ball. Tebow gains confidence.

I'm rooting for the guy.

Jakez 12-12-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18569251)
underneath every public christian is a scandal. wonder what his will be.

Lol I have no idea about the guy, don't pay attention to the sport at all but yeah waiting for the day until some stupid scandal ruins his 'good image'. It always happens, there are no perfect angels on Earth especially when there's a major career and money involved sorry people. :2 cents:

justinsain 12-12-2011 02:33 PM

I don't get the prevent defense either. Especially when all the opposing team needs is to get into field goal range.

For three quarters the Bears made them go 3 and out and then switched to prevent which allowed Denver to drive for a TD and the winning field goal. :upsidedow

I also hate when the winning team lays down playing super conservative often going 3 and out and relying on their defense to stop them. I say play like they did the whole time and try hard to get first downs to keep ball possession. The opposing team cannot score as long as they keep possession.

Biggie Smalls Web Writing 12-12-2011 02:40 PM

Tim Tebow is getting his shit together!

Caligari 12-12-2011 02:46 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YCLuXjOBAB...er-broncos.jpg

Anthony 12-12-2011 03:50 PM

Tim Tebow is the greatest Football player born in the Philippines, ever.

VikingMan 12-12-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18624897)
I'm rooting for the guy.

Me too, just because the thugs who permeate sports disgust me and seeing someone who is promoting something positive is refreshing even though Christianity is not my thing.

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huey 12-12-2011 04:22 PM

Denver's defence and kicker are making him look really good. But to his credit he delivers when he has to.

The Porn Nerd 12-12-2011 05:36 PM

Tim TiVo is a precious little girly man.
Let's put it this way:
He's no John Elway

Caligari 12-12-2011 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18625538)
Tim TiVo is a precious little girly man.
Let's put it this way:
He's no John Elway

God is watching you.




Or maybe he just glanced in your direction;)

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kronic 12-12-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 18622739)
Im not a big Denver or Tebow fan... but your predictions are looking like they could be very VERY offbase :2 cents::2 cents:

lol, I'm not worried.

Even the commentators are laughing DURING programming about it. Why? Because they KNOW he's not a very good quarterback and the team is winning in spite of him.

He didn't kick the 58 yarder to tie the game, nor the 51 yarder to win it.

I think Denver plays New England this week. Now we'll see how Denver does with a QB that plays 1 quarter of each game against one of the BEST QB's in the game. If they're within 20 by the final whistle I'll be shocked.

NETbilling 12-13-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kronic (Post 18625813)
lol, I'm not worried.

Even the commentators are laughing DURING programming about it. Why? Because they KNOW he's not a very good quarterback and the team is winning in spite of him.

He didn't kick the 58 yarder to tie the game, nor the 51 yarder to win it.

I think Denver plays New England this week. Now we'll see how Denver does with a QB that plays 1 quarter of each game against one of the BEST QB's in the game. If they're within 20 by the final whistle I'll be shocked.

It is crazy how he is winning. Let's see how he does about Brady and co.

ThunderBalls 12-13-2011 09:02 PM

I've been a Denver fan going back to the 70's and although I think Tebow brings new energy to the team I don't think he will ever be a great quarterback. He cannot throw, and although a friend of mine keeps saying he'll learn something tells me he's been trying to learn since he was 10. Its kind of irritating to hear the constant Jesus freak on the radio that didnt know what a field goal was before last week convinced they will win the super bowl because God loves Tebow. Truth is their defense is whats been winning games, not Tebow.

Joshua G 12-13-2011 09:13 PM

sorry but if trent dilfer & eli manning can get rings, so can tim tebow.

NETbilling 12-13-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 18628845)
I've been a Denver fan going back to the 70's and although I think Tebow brings new energy to the team I don't think he will ever be a great quarterback. He cannot throw, and although a friend of mine keeps saying he'll learn something tells me he's been trying to learn since he was 10. Its kind of irritating to hear the constant Jesus freak on the radio that didnt know what a field goal was before last week convinced they will win the super bowl because God loves Tebow. Truth is their defense is whats been winning games, not Tebow.

Yeah - people are nutty

justinsain 12-13-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 18628845)
I've been a Denver fan going back to the 70's and although I think Tebow brings new energy to the team I don't think he will ever be a great quarterback. He cannot throw, and although a friend of mine keeps saying he'll learn something tells me he's been trying to learn since he was 10. Its kind of irritating to hear the constant Jesus freak on the radio that didnt know what a field goal was before last week convinced they will win the super bowl because God loves Tebow. Truth is their defense is whats been winning games, not Tebow.



The team that scores the most points wins in football.

In each game that Denver won, who scored the most points, their offense or defense?

That's right the offense did and without those points they wouldn't win no matter how well the defense played.

In almost every offensive play the ball is touched by the QB. While he is nowhere near the level of Brady or Rogers or several other QBs he has played well enough to help his team win. The defense has been outstanding and has made it so the offense hasn't had to score a bunch of points to win. Playing aggressive on defense and conservative on offense has been a winning strategy for Denver and I'm sure a lot of other teams in the NFL wish they could do the same.

This Sunday they play New England and their game plan will probably change. Pats will score and this time Denver will have to be more aggressive on offense to keep the score close. It will be interesting to see if Tebow will be able to step it up.

The bottom line is if you're going to go and credit the defense with the wins then you're going to have to blame them for a loss as well :)

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CDSmith 12-15-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kronic (Post 18625813)
Even the commentators are laughing DURING programming about it. Why? Because they KNOW he's not a very good quarterback and the team is winning in spite of him.

Funny, all the commentator comments I've heard about him lately have been positive. As in they're all praising the guy, for his mobility and his ability to run the ball as well as keep his focus downfield to make the rather impressive last-second 1st-down-getting throws he's made.

I haven't heard a commentator laughing at the guy since about 7-8 weeks ago.

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Originally Posted by kronic (Post 18625813)
He didn't kick the 58 yarder to tie the game, nor the 51 yarder to win it.

No, but he did bust his ass in that quarter to get them into FG range, by running it when he had to, and by having an over 70% passer rating (in that quarter).

And to those saying his teammates did most of it, let's face it: no QB has ever in the history of the sport won a game entirely on his own. No one's saying this guy is doing it alone either, but again lets face it: the QB is the one guy that most often makes or breaks a teams' chances of winning.

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Originally Posted by kronic (Post 18625813)
I think Denver plays New England this week. Now we'll see how Denver does with a QB that plays 1 quarter of each game against one of the BEST QB's in the game. If they're within 20 by the final whistle I'll be shocked.

A lot of people didn't expect Tebow to amount to anything, and saw the Broncos having a horrible season this year largely because of their QB woes. Now they are leading their div and in all likelyhood will be in the playoffs. How anyone can say that isn't in great part due to this Tebow guy baffles me.

They may lose this one, but so what? I'd say the guy has already proven his worth. If anyone still doubts that then why not ask his teammates what they think of him? I think it's their answers that might shock you more than if they win this week.

Caligari 12-18-2011 07:37 AM

Will Brady get Tebowed?

Stranger things have happened but I doubt it this time 'round.

Brady has the firepower, and although Tebow is a good running back I don't think he and the kicker can rack up the required points.

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justinsain 12-18-2011 08:53 AM

Fortunately this isn't a must win for Denver so if they're going to lose its better now than later.

If Denver's defense is at the top of their game it could be another exciting game.

If Denver beats New England and Tebow throws for about 300 yds I might just have to go to Midnight Mass :)

Here's a clip from last night's Saturday Night Live


SuckOnThis 12-18-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 18637899)
Fortunately this isn't a must win for Denver so if they're going to lose its better now than later.

If Denver's defense is at the top of their game it could be another exciting game.

If Denver beats New England and Tebow throws for about 300 yds I might just have to go to Midnight Mass :)


Tebow has yet to throw for 300 yds, matter of fact he is lowest as far as starting QB's with a total of 1200 yards, he is also lowest in completion percentage at 46.5%, and he is also 28 out of 30 in yds per pass at only 6.52 yards. And with the exception of Minnesota Tebow has been unable to score more than 17 points in any game. Hey but at least he has God on his side. :1orglaugh

MetaMan 12-18-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 18637925)
Tebow has yet to throw for 300 yds, matter of fact he is lowest as far as starting QB's with a total of 1200 yards, he is also lowest in completion percentage at 46.5%, and he is also 28 out of 30 in yds per pass at only 6.52 yards. And with the exception of Minnesota Tebow has been unable to score more than 17 points in any game. Hey but at least he has God on his side. :1orglaugh

The majority of people in this thread are obviously clueless when it comes to football and take all of their opinions from what sportscasters tell them to think.

Its not about the quarterback in football. It is about how a team is built.

If a team is heavy run and quality defence they play ball control. your job as a quarter back is to CONTROL the game and not give up turn overs.

Look you idiots are so clueless it is not even funny. Tebow fills a ROLE that is needed and that is why they are winning.

Stats, points, none of that matter when your team is built to wear down the defence and win in the bottom half of the game.

Now please idiots stop commenting on football. You're so clueless it is not even funny.

justinsain 12-18-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 18637925)
Tebow has yet to throw for 300 yds, matter of fact he is lowest as far as starting QB's with a total of 1200 yards, he is also lowest in completion percentage at 46.5%, and he is also 28 out of 30 in yds per pass at only 6.52 yards. And with the exception of Minnesota Tebow has been unable to score more than 17 points in any game. Hey but at least he has God on his side. :1orglaugh

That's why I said if Tebow throws for 300 yds or more today I'd have to become a believer in divine intervention and start going to Church :winkwink:

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18637956)
The majority of people in this thread are obviously clueless when it comes to football and take all of their opinions from what sportscasters tell them to think.

Its not about the quarterback in football. It is about how a team is built.

If a team is heavy run and quality defence they play ball control. your job as a quarter back is to CONTROL the game and not give up turn overs.

Look you idiots are so clueless it is not even funny. Tebow fills a ROLE that is needed and that is why they are winning.

Stats, points, none of that matter when your team is built to wear down the defence and win in the bottom half of the game.

Now please idiots stop commenting on football. You're so clueless it is not even funny.

This has been my point all along :thumbsup

Its not the FG kicker that wins the game and its not Tebow that wins the game. It is the collective effort of all the players that have individually played their position adequately under the direction of the coaches and their game plan.

So give the kicker credit for doing his job.

Give the defense credit for doing their job.

Give Tebow credit for doing his job.

Big number stats don't me shit if you lose and any QB will tell you they would much rather throw for 50 yds and get a win than throw for 350 yds and lose.

Bottom line is the Denver TEAM is leading in their division and headed to the playoffs :)

Jet Set Cat 12-18-2011 09:44 AM

I?m beginning to wonder if there is some truth to that Tebow story, look what he did in Dallas

news.yahoo.com/wild-video-runaway-electric-cart-mows-down-coaches-155005825--spt.html


Darn it I can't insert the link I don't have enough posts yet.

SuckOnThis 12-18-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18637956)

Its not about the quarterback in football. It is about how a team is built.

Wrong, it is about the qb. There has never been an NFL dynamo without a great quarterback. I suppose though you being from Canada I can see why you would say that since the only decent qb to ever play in the CFL was Warren Moon. So you grew up watching NFL throwaways and were forced to believe qb's dont mean shit.


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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18637956)
Stats, points, none of that matter when your team is built to wear down the defence and win in the bottom half of the game.

True, but that is not the case with this team, the offense isnt wearing anyone down, they lead the league in 3 and outs. It is their defense and special teams that is winning games, all this hype you would think Tebow has been outperforming Johnny Unitas when the truth is he just an over glorified running back.

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 18637956)
Now please idiots stop commenting on football. You're so clueless it is not even funny.


My feelings exactly.


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