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candyflip 03-18-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18830748)
I still have the emails somewhere of you continually following up with me wanting to know when we will get started. Pray to God you retarded old fuck that I don't get motivated to find them as I did the pics I took at your shoot.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'd say put a nail in his coffin and post that shit. But this old tard is never going to die. :1orglaugh

MrCain 03-18-2012 12:09 PM

Another Paul Markham success story.

TheSquealer 03-18-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18830757)
I'd say put a nail in his coffin and post that shit. But this old tard is never going to die. :1orglaugh

I have over a dozen backup drives from computer backups, design backups, content etc. and no clue where to start looking. The pics were easier because I had them on a drive with travel pics and knew where they were.

It's not going to change anything with this retard anyway, he'll just insist he was talking about something else or something stupid. But I remember a couple of them were pretty specific with details - there were a few before emails where I told him exactly what I was looking for etc and asking him if he wanted to discuss it and he did , which is why we drove to Brno.

Now he says the opposite as if I just showed up at his door step for no reason, no prior discussion and agreement and was looking for a free meal or something and i'm a liar. Like we just couldn't wait to go to one more east European, post soviet shithole, just for the hell of it.

The truth is that this idiot was desperate for money and going out of business at that time.

Prior to that time - He talks like he's one of the most successful content producers in porn
Just prior to that time - he launches all his content blowout stuff (following the epic fights with AaronM and J$tyles)
Around the same time - he launches paysites (paulmarkhamteens.com)
Around the same time - he launches tgps and other sites - thinking he's such a genius, he'll "get it" right away"
When we were there - he was trying to finish his studio to lease out for absurd hourly and day rates
When we were there - Eva was already shooting most of his content for him for quite a while
After we were there - he launches sites with $5 access and tells everyone how dumb they are (sites not defunct)
After we were there - he's broke and begging for money on GFY
After we were there - he admits Eva having to get a job to support them
After we were there - he admits to never making over 80,000.00 USD a year
After we were there - he retires trying to act as if that was the act of a successful person who did well.. the truth is that he was forced out of business as the dynamics changed
After we were there - he admits to living on government pensions and that his income from content / paysites is just a couple thousand a month

Today... he thinks he's going to show everyone in this biz how to make money after failing at everything he's done.

Oh... and i'm a liar.

lucas131 03-18-2012 12:29 PM

paul rocks!

B.Barnato 03-18-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 18830756)
Not if Paul Markham took it....

:1orglaugh

Freaky_Akula 03-18-2012 12:37 PM

http://funnypicsofanything.com/uploa...d-guy-fail.jpg

Just Alex 03-18-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18830724)
And this liar spent the rest of the day with me and even came to my home. where I fed him some pasta. Then still didn't get the FUCK OFF message when I switched on the TV to watch soccer.

Too stupid to realise I was not the man for his work or clearly lying? Go figure the rest.

He was looking for a man to shoot solo girls content of his Russian Web cam girls. Who he was going to fly in to Czech, taxi to Brno, put up in a flat (we don't have short let flats here in Brno), wanted to use one of my shooters, my studio, my equipment, my make up and all the rest of my facilities, to pay me crap money.

Because shooting solo gilr content in Russia is illegal, but it's legal to run a webcam studio.

Yes BladeZ this is why I look down on so many here. If he's being honest with his story, why did he hang around me to gone 9.00 a night. When the English soccer comes on the TV?

Or if he's clearly lying. Why would any idiot post this?

Welcome to my Ignore list. Too dim to be read.

I thought you didn't remember any of that? Sudden epiphany?

MarksAdult 03-18-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18830192)
What kind of dog do you have?

P1mpdog!

EddyTheDog 03-18-2012 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MarksAdult (Post 18831079)
P1mpdog!

LOL - Its been a while since I saw that name - I wonder what he is doing......

If this was 'Family Guy' you would be seeing what he is doing now - but its not.....

kronic 03-18-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18830182)
I'm very happy doing nothing but enjoying my retirement and yes trolling is part of that.

You posting that with ANY sense of pride is simply sad. Congrats to you on taking pathetic to a new level. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 03-18-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18830774)
I have over a dozen backup drives from computer backups, design backups, content etc. and no clue where to start looking. The pics were easier because I had them on a drive with travel pics and knew where they were.

It's not going to change anything with this retard anyway, he'll just insist he was talking about something else or something stupid. But I remember a couple of them were pretty specific with details - there were a few before emails where I told him exactly what I was looking for etc and asking him if he wanted to discuss it and he did , which is why we drove to Brno.

Now he says the opposite as if I just showed up at his door step for no reason, no prior discussion and agreement and was looking for a free meal or something and i'm a liar. Like we just couldn't wait to go to one more east European, post soviet shithole, just for the hell of it.

The truth is that this idiot was desperate for money and going out of business at that time.

Prior to that time - He talks like he's one of the most successful content producers in porn No just one of the ones working online.
Just prior to that time - he launches all his content blowout stuff (following the epic fights with AaronM and J$tyles) Which is to sell to the broke asses online who can't afford more.
Around the same time - he launches paysites (paulmarkhamteens.com) Why would any shooter open a paysite to earn a 4th level off the same content. He would be better selling it for peanuts to him.
Around the same time - he launches tgps and other sites - thinking he's such a genius, he'll "get it" right away" And they still bring sales. Go figure.
When we were there - he was trying to finish his studio to lease out for absurd hourly and day rates. Prove it.
When we were there - Eva was already shooting most of his content for him for quite a while. While we had a baby sitter on staff at our home, also had 2 other shooters.
After we were there - he launches sites with $5 access and tells everyone how dumb they are (sites not defunct)Why would anyone try to do something different?
After we were there - he's broke and begging for money on GFY To get into his bank account to pay the staff he me.
After we were there - he admits Eva having to get a job to support them "having" being his word. Truth she could pick up a camera and earn more. If we were short of money
After we were there - he admits to never making over 80,000.00 USD a year Prove it.
After we were there - he retires trying to act as if that was the act of a successful person who did well.. the truth is that he was forced out of business as the dynamics changed The cancer had nothing to do with it. changing is easy, just drop prices.
After we were there - he admits to living on government pensions and that his income from content / paysites is just a couple thousand a month Lies. Live off private pensions, not old enough for Government pensions and the stores clear over $4,000 a month now. did drop to below $3,000 a few months last year. Still $25,000 for doing nothing is better than most here.

Today... he thinks he's going to show everyone in this biz how to make money after failing at everything he's done. And so many pray he doesn't prove us wrong.

Oh... and i'm a liar. Well that's clear. Show the emails.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18830774)
I decided that instead of shooting solo girl content of our webcam girls here in Russia where pornography production and selling is illegal. To fly them to Czech, take them to Brno, keep them in a flat and take them to the shoot, pay the shooter for cheap content. Make sure the girls don't take off to stay in Czech and then after the shoot, take them back to Prague, fly them home to Russia.

Because live webcam is legal in Russia and shooting solo girl content is. Read what Wiki says. :thumbsup

Russia
See also: Russian pornography and erotica

The legal status of pornography in Russia is uncertain. The law criminalizes only the 'illegal' production and selling of pornography (which implies that it sometimes can be legal), but two circumstances make enforcement of the law difficult: (1) the lack of a legal definition of pornography, and (2) no law defining when production or selling is legal.[citation needed]

Production, distribution, or public demonstration of child pornography (i.e., of children below 18 years of age) is a crime punishable by imprisonment. Possession of child porn is not a crime, if there is no intent to distribute or exhibit it.[citation needed]


See also: Russian pornography and erotica

In 1996 section 242[2] in Russian Criminal Code became a federal legislation that prohibited sale and production of "illegal" pornographic materials.[3] The section provides for a penalty of up to 2 years in prison. Authorities missed a critical definition?the one of actual pornography. While pornography is officially illegal to sell in Russia, the law doesn?t spell out in exact terms the subject of the ban. Russian erotica is sold openly in sex shops and DVD stores. Newspapers publish information about police raids on such places on a monthly basis.

Now who would question this man would they. seems so logical it's a wonder why everyone doesn't do it that way. why shoot porn in Russia when you can do what Squealer wanted to do and so keen on it it he spent lots of time with a crap shooter and horrible person like me. :1orglaugh

papill0n 03-19-2012 12:01 AM

hey good morning troll!!

what you got for us today ?

19teenporn 03-19-2012 12:30 AM

All that money and can't whiten your teeth?

nico-t 03-19-2012 01:38 AM

lol. Ok, so you made a topic about making some extra cash, and it was shot down by everybody like all of your topics. And now you say you were just trolling. Sounds believable. You are so cunning! :1orglaugh

DamianJ 03-19-2012 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18831809)
Now who would question this man .

I don't think anyone would Paul. He already totally, with photographic evidence, proved you to be a liar.

teomaxxx 03-19-2012 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18830229)
He offered my manager $1000 to fuck on film because he thought he was being funny though it was clear she was extremely uncomfortable. He then sought to ease the obvious (though not to him) tension and awkwardness by asking her if she likes to lick pussy then going on about how she wants to because she can see it in her eyes, and so on and so on.

Well, I remember I heard similar story from guy who shooted content in Brno in the past. Robert (gfy username) from big tgp of the past - smashingthumbs.com. He told us on CZ adullt board, that Paul usually tried to convice the girls he shooted to fuck with him and his wife in threesome then for some bucks or for free. Nothing against it, just the way how "the dirty old man" was rolling :1orglaugh
Anyway, I posted that story here on GFY several years ago, unfortunately I am not able to find that out now, instead I found out this sweet testimony:

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Originally Posted by Nydahl (Post 8633992)
100 sets for up to 5K per year and still driving that old ford right :pimp
Paul wake up finaly - there is a lot of far far better phototgraphers then you or me so stop that saying how great you are all the time - its boring.
Also making up to 500 000 USD per year just from magazines and asking for some job like this - for what ? for 1200 USd ?
jesus - this is ridiculous - you should slow down little bit and I mean it.
You paid my dinner the last time so I should keep my mouth shut but I post this to help you open your eyes.
Lot of people asked me about you the last weeks - they just can't believe what you post here all the time

:2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:


BladeZ 03-19-2012 02:13 AM

he is a delusional arrogant prick,guess you will be next on his ignore list,he seems to dislike people who get enough of reading his idiotic rants and stand up against him.

Cherry7 03-19-2012 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BladeZ (Post 18831896)
he is a delusional arrogant prick,guess you will be next on his ignore list,he seems to dislike people who get enough of reading his idiotic rants and stand up against him.

So many of us are on his ignore list who exactly is he talking to anymore?

BladeZ 03-19-2012 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18831909)
So many of us are on his ignore list who exactly is he talking to anymore?

he likes to read his own crap I think :) or maybe he suffers from:

nar·cis·sism   [nahr-suh-siz-em]
noun
1.
inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity.
2.
Psychoanalysis . erotic gratification derived from admiration of one's own physical or mental attributes, being a normal condition at the infantile level of personality development.

Paul Markham 03-19-2012 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 18831893)
Well, I remember I heard similar story from guy who shooted content in Brno in the past. Robert (gfy username) from big tgp of the past - smashingthumbs.com. He told us on CZ adullt board, that Paul usually tried to convice the girls he shooted to fuck with him and his wife in threesome then for some bucks or for free. Nothing against it, just the way how "the dirty old man" was rolling :1orglaugh
Anyway, I posted that story here on GFY several years ago, unfortunately I am not able to find that out now, instead I found out this sweet testimony:

A pornographer who likes to fuck girls. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
What is the world coming to?????

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer
He offered my manager $1000 to fuck on film because he thought he was being funny though it was clear she was extremely uncomfortable. He then sought to ease the obvious (though not to him) tension and awkwardness by asking her if she likes to lick pussy then going on about how she wants to because she can see it in her eyes, and so on and so on.

Unfortunately we needed him more than he was bothering to be nice to me and my assistant, even though he kept insulting her. We had to hang around with him all day long. Even had to go to his home at night trying to persuade him to do business with us. I finally got the idea he wasn't that interested in impressing us with how nice he is, when he switched on the TV to watch the football.

If we hadn't of needed him so much we would of left him in the coffee shop.

This is the truth Squealer. You and your assistant didn't like me and felt insulted by me. Yet refused to fuck off and leave me. You even bothered to come and see this washed up crap shooter. Which was a mistake from the start.

Still morons keep re-posting your illogical rambling lies.

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gonna put the fool on ignore,reading his crap gives me stomach burns

Rochard 03-19-2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18830182)
I know I'm an object of fun for you.

At same point in time you need to step back and say "Gee, everyone in my industry hates me" and then ask yourself why. It's not because everyone else in the industry is stupid or wrong.

I honestly believe you get to an age where you think you are right and everyone else is wrong, and you come off looking like an ass. Your at that age now. All you know is "the good old days" and that was some time ago. People are still paying big bucks for great content, but our industry has wised up and no one is going to be paying big bucks for below average content. I don't see Dean Capture looking for work.

TheSquealer 03-19-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18832012)

This is the truth Squealer. You and your assistant didn't like me and felt insulted by me. Yet refused to fuck off and leave me. You even bothered to come and see this washed up crap shooter. Which was a mistake from the start.

Still morons keep re-posting your illogical rambling lies.

Gee Paul, you rewrote what I said to say something completely different and then replied to it.

I'm clearly the liar.

Everyone in this biz knows you're a clueless clown. You've failed. Your 34 years in this biz was unremarkable, your content unremarkable and you ultimately failed as the business matured and left you behind (far behind). Get over it and move on.

CyberHustler 03-19-2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18832173)
At same point in time you need to step back and say "Gee, everyone in my industry hates me" and then ask yourself why. It's not because everyone else in the industry is stupid or wrong.

I honestly believe you get to an age where you think you are right and everyone else is wrong, and you come off looking like an ass. Your at that age now. All you know is "the good old days" and that was some time ago. People are still paying big bucks for great content, but our industry has wised up and no one is going to be paying big bucks for below average content. I don't see Dean Capture looking for work.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...in-d4ge0j2.jpg

DamianJ 03-19-2012 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18830750)
Can we have shorter drama please - I am not reading all that shit....

Remember that a picture is worth a thousand words.

Cliffnotes: The Squealer called Paul out on lots of details about his operation, his house, his car, etc. Paul denied it all, called him a liar. Squealer then found photos he took proving all of his statements as true. Paul then went into a 'caught out in another lie' meltdown calling him names etc.

It was brilliant pwnage.

HTH

alextokyo 03-19-2012 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18832173)
People are still paying big bucks for great content, but our industry has wised up and no one is going to be paying big bucks for below average content. I don't see Dean Capture looking for work.

Spot on.

Paul Markham 03-19-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18832173)
At same point in time you need to step back and say "Gee, everyone in my industry hates me" and then ask yourself why. It's not because everyone else in the industry is stupid or wrong.

I honestly believe you get to an age where you think you are right and everyone else is wrong, and you come off looking like an ass. Your at that age now. All you know is "the good old days" and that was some time ago. People are still paying big bucks for great content, but our industry has wised up and no one is going to be paying big bucks for below average content. I don't see Dean Capture looking for work.

Well lets see if I'm wrong.

Is porn revenue more or less than it used to be? LESS
Are there more or less skilled pornographers working in porn? LESS
Are people paying more or less for great content? LESS
Are there more or less skilled shooters working in porn today? LESS
Are there more or less message boards? LESS
Are there more or less posts on the boards?LESS

Have we ALL seen the good old days go? Without a doubt.

And that's the truth. Dean couldn't sell to magazines as Viv, Micheal, Jack, Steve, Suze did time and time again. Now he's got a few sets under his belt he might find bigger fish to fry elsewhere. The days he earned $6,000 shooting 2 sets. Are few and far between. If ever.

That wasn't a great price, it was the norm. Which is why the guys shooting like the ones who got multiple sets published monthly never came here to earn what Dean does.

What ever excuses you want to come up for the decline of porn, few but pirates and those who weren't earning very much 2005-2007 would not love to turn the clock back. That's as far as I would like to turn it back, 2005 was my best year.

I don't care if it gets turned back. Because I was an asshole to Squealer and others like him. I could concentrate on shooting content that made better money then his idea would ever make. Problem is people believe his illogical lies. I forgot who he was, he didn't make that much of an impression on me and his story was largely lies. Or he's the most stupid person for hanging around me all day.

Unlike most here. I experienced a time when spending $25,000 shooting a single scene of no great importance was possible and very profitable. A time when a porn shop would turn over $2-$3 million a year. At a huge profit margin. Sounds small, multiply it by 100 for just one chain. A time when piracy was a prick in the profits, not a slash or chopping off of them.

Maybe it was a time when there were less people all earning more per person. Or maybe if you count all the shops, video sales, rental, mail order, magazines, cable TV, phone ads, hotel chains, etc. You realise it can never be replaced by porn online, not with the free sector or piracy.

Maybe it was a time people were paying big bucks for below average content. Pity Dean couldn't get to it. He worked for Steve Hicks, so he knew where the real money was.

Now Rochard, debate the points I posted and show where I got it wrong. Didn't you used to own a paysite?

WarChild 03-19-2012 08:59 AM

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Paul. He's so desperate for recognition yet after being called out and caught as a liar time after time he just doesn't understand that he doesn't have any credibility at all. To top it all off his mail order bride doesn't even want anything to do with him. Can't blame her really. As if she's going to bring her friends around him so he can creep on them too.

It's pathetic Paul but you made the bed you're being forced to lay in.

Tom_PM 03-19-2012 09:09 AM

I don't usually get sucked into these things, but how come everyone seems to get sucked in? Is it a "pile on" factor or something? I've just never seen so many replies to a person people claim is not worth time replying, or words to that effect.

Anyway, good luck. ? Or something.

porno jew 03-19-2012 09:09 AM

when everyone think you are wrong, chances are, you are wrong.

Colmike9 03-19-2012 09:12 AM

Here are some random reasons why internet porn doesn't seem to be selling as much as it used to:
1) When internet porn started, that's when content creation for the internet started too, which meant porn was new to everyone that saw it at the start and took a while for things to get oversaturated and higher quality to make the older porn seem worthless to buy.
2) Much more webmasters are promoting the same thing since more people have computers and are in need of making a few extra bucks these days and hosting is super cheap compared to the 90s (Affiliate marketing got me out of poverty)
3) Blackhat and cookie stuffing cheaters
4) Some 'webmasters' just suck and like to complain about it even if they've never made money in the past either.. :321GFY
5) Internet connection speed is much better than before so promoting only image FHGs doesn't quite cut it anymore by itself..
6) There's a lot more to do on the internet nowaday than just research and jerk off like it used to be...

The point is if you have good content and promote it well with good selling text, minimal leaks on the page, frequent members area updates, great landing page with clear info of what the surfer is getting, and know how to promote your niche, then you can make good money. The amount of money that people spend on porn is determined by how good you are at selling.. ;)

I don't think tubes are the problem..

ZeroHero 03-19-2012 09:15 AM

Go up Mr. P. all support from the south islands for you :thumbsup

u-Bob 03-19-2012 09:19 AM


Paul Markham 03-19-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18832179)
Gee Paul, you rewrote what I said to say something completely different and then replied to it.

I'm clearly the liar.

Everyone in this biz knows you're a clueless clown. You've failed. Your 34 years in this biz was unremarkable, your content unremarkable and you ultimately failed as the business matured and left you behind (far behind). Get over it and move on.

Then why did you come to see me and subject yourself and your assistant to such a failure. Who's also a person who you found terrible?

Explanations are due. Still everyone believes you. :1orglaugh

candyflip 03-19-2012 10:08 AM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D8mSpWSH9a...V0/s1600/1.jpg

DamianJ 03-19-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18832437)
Well lets see if I'm wrong.

Did I lie about making lots of money? YES
Am I living in a 3 bedroom $30k house in a small village in Eastern Europe ? YES
Does my wife have to go out to work as a cleaner to pay the bills? YES
Does my family go away every weekend so they don't have to see me? YES
Am I bitter and confused I missed the internet explosion? YES, VERY
Do I continually lie and have I been proven to be a liar repeatedly?YES

Hey Paul, I bet when your family hear about your plan to turn over 16 bucks a day things will get better!

DamianJ 03-19-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18832577)
Still everyone believes you. :1orglaugh

Yes, everyone does, because you lied and he proved you to be a liar. As have I, as have many people.

:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 03-19-2012 10:31 AM

Thanks for the reply rather than the abuse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 18832482)
Here are some random reasons why internet porn doesn't seem to be selling as much as it used to:
1) When internet porn started, that's when content creation for the internet started too, which meant porn was new to everyone that saw it at the start and took a while for things to get oversaturated and higher quality to make the older porn seem worthless to buy.

Not true. When the Internet started was in the 50s. The history of the Internet began with the development of computers in the 1950s. Until the introduction of Digital Cameras it was mostly scans off pages from magazines or slides. Which were mostly produced by professionals like me. The first affordable ones were around 1998 if my memory serves me right. There were ones before, but very expensive. Olympus and Nikon were early in this race.

It wasn't till then that online shooters could afford a digital camera.
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2) Much more webmasters are promoting the same thing since more people have computers and are in need of making a few extra bucks these days and hosting is super cheap compared to the 90s (Affiliate marketing got me out of poverty)
Agreed. We have 10,000s of affiliates between the creators/publishers and customers. Do they make the same money the offline retail made? I very much doubt it. Never met an affiliate worth what some retail pornographers are worth. They were not people living in the Philippines. ;)

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3) Blackhat and cookie stuffing cheaters
Online has been a boom for all the cheaters, scammers, freeloaders, pirates, etc.
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4) Some 'webmasters' just suck and like to complain about it even if they've never made money in the past either.. :321GFY
It can still make them some money. They have 0 investment, 0 to lose, yet moan. Go figure.

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5) Internet connection speed is much better than before so promoting only image FHGs doesn't quite cut it anymore by itself..
Yes the speed online and the competition to give porn away has slashed online income. Speed was a silver line, on base metal for most.

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6) There's a lot more to do on the internet nowaday than just research and jerk off like it used to be...
True, once the "free" is taken out of the Internet. It will become what it should be. Culture needs to change, people who think "If it's online it should be free." Are dinosaurs. The Internet is business. We can entertain to get traffic to sell advertising. But we can't keep giving the product away for free. Someone somewhere has to pay. Which is why today offline retail mainstream is rushing to get online. I just ordered a $800 data storage unit. Can't frigging pirate that or give it away. :winkwink:

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The point is if you have good content and promote it well with good selling text, minimal leaks on the page, frequent members area updates, great landing page with clear info of what the surfer is getting, and know how to promote your niche, then you can make good money. The amount of money that people spend on porn is determined by how good you are at selling.. ;)

I don't think tubes are the problem..
True. But it comes down to the producer of the product to create something that will convert and retain traffic. In porn that's for the elite group of sites. Most can\t afford it and it's cheaper to spend more on traffic and less on the product in some sphere of the Internet.

For porn Tubes are the problem along with piracy. If a shooter spends the money to fly to Bali with the top crew and talent to create the greatest porn. Online can't afford it. DVDs did many times. Digital Playground and a few others, could never support their production on Internet sales alone.

1 thing you got wrong, another we disagree on, the rest. :thumbsup

porno jew 03-19-2012 10:35 AM

don't you get it? no one gives a fuck what you say? nobody?

candyflip 03-19-2012 10:36 AM

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DamianJ 03-19-2012 10:39 AM

http://vintagepornretropornoldpornvi...ordpress. com

PornMD 03-19-2012 10:47 AM

I think I'll go watch a few soaps and ultimately waste less time than I would reading this thread. tl;dr fellas.

Jakez 03-19-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18830615)
Whats the difference between an 'Open Letter' and 'A Post'?

He's already used "A post to all the idiots on GFY and B&B" before?

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18832477)
I don't usually get sucked into these things, but how come everyone seems to get sucked in? Is it a "pile on" factor or something? I've just never seen so many replies to a person people claim is not worth time replying, or words to that effect.

Unfortunately, messing with Paul is just about the only entertainment left on here.

alextokyo 03-19-2012 11:23 AM

In this thread so far:


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alextokyo 03-19-2012 11:24 AM

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Paul Markham 03-19-2012 11:49 AM

As someone who was introduced to the Internet in the early 70s, my two brothers were both training to be programmers. In the days of machine code. I've seen the Internet grow from something that linked colleges, plus what ever Governments were doing with it, to today and it being in most Western Households and a lot more places.

From transferring at a snails pace to today's high speed connections. Obviously with the Internet being another outlet for the porn I was shooting or another way to sell the porn direct I was in online porn long before most here. For the mail order business I was a merchant able to take money with cards present or not. Mostly not. So taking orders online was easy, just needed the number and expiry date for me to fill in the form and add it to my bank deposit slips. no such thing as Epassporte and online billing then.

Selling the images we were selling to magazines, to sites was also something I did a lot of. Did open a site in the 90s and it was small beer for me, should of done more work on it. There were no affiliates, no boards and the only real place to promote were Newsgroups. No secret, I sucked at it because I was too busy shooting videos and sending them out via the post. :Oh crap

Yes trolls, before you knew there was a boat I missed it the first time around. :1orglaugh

Still the good times for online porn started around 1998. Some will say a year earlier, some will say a year later. Different sides of the same coin.

The main markets were as then the US and EU. There were people in other places viewing and everyone did everything they could to monetise the traffic. Remember phone billing? Still around but not big money. The meat of the revenue was and still are countries we could bill, with a decent standard of living and always had access to porn of some sort. Maybe not ass banging teens like Max Hardcore, but they had Mayfair, Penthouse and often more.

And that's where a bulk of the market online probably came from. Not the traffic, the buyers. As the Internet grew, offline decreased. For many reasons. Availability, price, value, free, and micro niches that it simply was hardly worth launching a lot of lines.

Why buy a magazine when all the pictures any reader could ever hope for were free on The Hun? Yes some bought, 1-500 of surfers maybe. What was being spent on magazines, was being got for free on TGP sites, with a few buyers.

Remember all the people saying you're losing customers getting them off for free with hardcore images?

Then what about the people who could log into a site, download in a month, cancel and have 3-4 months of brand new porn for their enjoyment. Contrary to what some say, rarely is a site so good they have to have the very latest update on the day it comes out. They have 3-4 months worth of brand new content on their Hard Drives. Sales of HD's took off and many now employ tools like Throttlebox.

Yes brand new world for some who never knew the old world. I knew both and sad the online sector paid so much for something that's so easy to get and killed so many sales trying to get it. Still the affiliates won't like that. Not their fault, they took advantage.

Even Mike says there are many little ones who moan about their income. In offline, they have expenses and go bankrupt. The bar is set higher, so few moan, too busy making money, or were.

Would I have done anything differently given the knowledge I have today of online porn? Yes and so would most here or know they're stuck with the little they have. We would all change something. I would of sunk some money into getting my sites really going, employ someone to submit by hand to Newsgroups all day long.

Given the knowledge I had then would I of done it differently? No. As most here would say. We work with the available knowledge we have and the skills.

Jakez 03-19-2012 11:55 AM

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Evil Chris 03-19-2012 12:07 PM

The "struttin that ass" video was funny.

BAKO 03-19-2012 12:11 PM

The Village idiot

Just Alex 03-19-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18832687)
Unfortunately, messing with Paul is just about the only entertainment left on here.

This is probably the only time I'd agree with you, shoes. Ever since your buddy left us, its been kinda slow. I thought you would carry the torch proudly, but turned out you're boring as fuck. So, yes, Paul is pretty much the only one left.


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