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signupdamnit 06-27-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027141)
I dont want screenshots that contain images. I only want screenshots like the ones already on http://coldcopy.com.au and http://hotcopy.com.au.

I know (no fucking way would I send a screenshot with an image of CP) but I'm hesitant to even click on the Google link leading to the file locker. Too worried it will appear that I'm downloading a bunch of CP.

Coldcopy now loads in the U.S. for me btw.

AdultKing 06-27-2012 11:22 AM

http://www.wjunction.com/1578552-post10596.htm

http://coldcopy.com.au/wjunction.jpg

I have sent a C&D to the wjunction owner.

Vjo 06-27-2012 11:43 AM

filehosts
cybersharing
ripsites

I dont like to see anyone not get paid but I must support someone who is trying to stop those trying to decimate our business.

$12.99 for hundreds of ripped sites is rediculous. That is pure highway robbery. How long did you think that model would fly?

Anyhow I will back off now. Just showing my support AK.

AdultKing 06-27-2012 12:00 PM

Thanks for the support. I am prepared to see this through as long as it takes. My sole aim is to put an end to file lockers.

The sites are up again now, both http://coldcopy.com.au and http://hotcopy.com.au

I have something else which is being readied which will really set the cat amongst the pigeons, I'll announce it in this thread tomorrow.

I've so far received 9 death threats via the contact form, obviously people are worried about this.

RycEric 06-27-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027523)

I've so far received 9 death threats via the contact form, obviously people are worried about this.

Nah...Don't stress that until it shows up at your door. Just get ready for the bullshit and lies. It's all they have but will attempt to ruin you with it. Nice site :thumbsup

AdultKing 06-27-2012 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 19027549)
Nah...Don't stress that until it shows up at your door. Just get ready for the bullshit and lies. It's all they have but will attempt to ruin you with it. Nice site :thumbsup

I'm not stressed, however it appears the file lockers and supporters are getting a little bit worried at where this might all lead for them.

19teenporn 06-27-2012 12:43 PM

Here is a bunp

twist 06-27-2012 12:54 PM

I applaude for you!

pornguy 06-27-2012 12:55 PM

Due to the mention of the file lockers watching these threads I would advise you to find a way to stop posting about this publicly. Sad thing is, a lot of companies around here own some of the file lockers so it would be hard to keep them out.

DWB 06-27-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 19027391)
Extabit just got looked into by Paypal.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2llkt4p.jpg

Very active thread over there with a lot of unhappy affils.

There is a lot of shit happening offline. Paypal is getting HAMMERED with stuff like this around the clock from several fronts. So is Visa and Master Card.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 19027549)
Nah...Don't stress that until it shows up at your door. Just get ready for the bullshit and lies. It's all they have but will attempt to ruin you with it. Nice site :thumbsup

:2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027523)
I've so far received 9 death threats via the contact form, obviously people are worried about this.

All talk. Look what the pirates are able to do, hell, look what Mansef / Manwin did and not ONE person so much as bitch slapped anyone from there.

That said, I would take the info you have and not be so public about it. You can do the same amount of damage without anyone knowing.

AdultKing 06-27-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 19027633)
Due to the mention of the file lockers watching these threads I would advise you to find a way to stop posting about this publicly. Sad thing is, a lot of companies around here own some of the file lockers so it would be hard to keep them out.

I'm not going to post specific tactics that I have planned. I think it's obvious to all the file lockers that a serious effort is being put into action to have these sites shut down.

That said, people are free to contact me directly via ICQ 19051100

I think it's beneficial for us to show a united front so posting here, so long as we don't give the longer term game away, will help more than hinder.

Three.Thousand 06-27-2012 01:12 PM

Im sure there is a lot! of dual citizenship holders so to speak, when it comes to gfy and wjunction.

AdultKing 06-27-2012 01:25 PM

Seems the Russians are great fans too.

http://coldcopy.com.au/russians.jpg

http://forum.searchengines.ru/showpo...&postcount=839

DWB 06-27-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027678)

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ZXzfXLRnKG6B_A

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-27-2012 01:30 PM

Are you sure that your goal is to "shut all File Lockers" down?

I believe that there are some legitimate and legal uses for File Lockers, so you should be careful that you do not unknowingly alienate legitimate users of FL sites, and risk having them push back, and even possibly align with the illegal users of the FL sites.

Just as we legal adult site operators want the illegal operators out of our business, the legitimate users of FL's should be made into our allies, and could be strong supporters if we open their eyes about how some FL's are participating in/facilitating illegal activities, and hurting their company's reputation in the process (most legit companies do not want to be associated with CP and such).

We need to find File Lockers which are legit (if that business model is even sustainable with legit users), and direct the legit users to them. As they flee the shady FL companies, it will be even easier to target the bad guys, and it will remove whatever claim of legitimacy that they are trying to hide behind.

:2 cents:

ADG

AdultKing 06-27-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19027687)
Are you sure that your goal is to "shut all File Lockers" down?

Legitimate file locker services like dropbox don't reward users based on uploads and downloads. Sites like dropbox are safe. As for the rest, they're going down and going down hard.

This has only just begun, I have mapped out a long term strategic method of systematically destroying this disgusting industry.

19teenporn 06-27-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19027687)
Are you sure that your goal is to "shut all File Lockers" down?

I believe that there are some legitimate and legal uses for File Lockers, so you should be careful that you do not unknowingly alienate legitimate users of FL sites, and risk having them push back, and even possibly align with the illegal users of the FL sites.

Just as we legal adult site operators want the illegal operators out of our business, the legitimate users of FL's should be made into our allies, and could be strong supporters if we open their eyes about how some FL's are participating in/facilitating illegal activities, and hurting their company's reputation in the process (most legit companies do not want to be associated with CP and such).

We need to find File Lockers which are legit (if that business model is even sustainable with legit users), and direct the legit users to them. As they flee the shady FL companies, it will be even easier to target the bad guys, and it will remove whatever claim of legitimacy that they are trying to hide behind.

:2 cents:

ADG

Oh, rlly??????????

AdultKing 06-27-2012 01:42 PM

Let's keep this all a sensible discussion and not let it become a huge negative debate. I started this thread so we could band together with ideas , not bicker amongst ourselves.

19teenporn 06-27-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027707)
Let's keep this all a sensible discussion and not let it become a huge negative debate. I started this thread so we could band together with ideas , not bicker amongst ourselves.


Agreed. Please stop saying adultking should go underground and filelockers are our friends.
If they are legal, they will know how to save their business.

Adultking does not need to go undercover.

Tijuana_Tom 06-27-2012 01:52 PM

Strong hypocrisy AdultKing FileLockers have a legitimate purpose.

Remember what Fris was doing selling other people's work? lol

AdultKing = Attention whore

BTW Dumbass you do want to do this in secret.

Three.Thousand 06-27-2012 02:00 PM

Legit companies, like dropbox:
http://torrentfreak.com/dropbox-bans...ncerns-120626/

If one wants to direct users to any place, i would say dropbox and then any service that doesnt offer an affiliate program.

Vjo 06-27-2012 02:15 PM

Wow!

How big is this "industry"?

What % of current porn sales do they do?

Are you Davey against Goliath at this point?

Just some q's that come to mind.

I have a feeling there is a ton of money on the table and up till now things were very lucrative in the rip biz.

AdultKing 06-27-2012 02:26 PM

The file locker industry is huge and many of the uploaders stand to lose bucket loads of money as their affiliate schemes crumble.

Vjo 06-27-2012 02:54 PM

Thanks AK. LMK if my sig is over the top. My way of showing support with a lil Petty for the bad boyz :)

AdultKing 06-27-2012 03:00 PM

All the support the better, I'm totally motivated to deal with this but every bit of encouragement helps :)

Vjo 06-27-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027829)
All the support the better, I'm totally motivated to deal with this but every bit of encouragement helps :)

Alright man :thumbsup

"feel the wheels slowly turning" :)

I admire you :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

AdultKing 06-27-2012 03:31 PM

More Russians ......

http://coldcopy.com.au/morerussians.jpg

http://forum.searchengines.ru/showth...712813&page=85

19teenporn 06-27-2012 03:35 PM

Here's another bump.

lddd 06-27-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027863)

what an idiot.

mikke 06-27-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027394)
Can several people please confirm that http://coldcopy.com.au is loading and is the same as http://hotcopy.com.au ?

working here without any problems..

ilnjscb 06-27-2012 03:52 PM

http://files.sharenator.com/naughty_...357-175800.jpg

Vjo 06-27-2012 04:11 PM

The next post is unbelievable on that board if you translate it. They are not happy.

Russians make me nervous lol Sig down :)

They arent real happy Ferro UL a screencap that's for sure.

lddd 06-27-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027792)
The file locker industry is huge and many of the uploaders stand to lose bucket loads of money as their affiliate schemes crumble.

In general you´re right but still your efforts are kind a weak.

People not paying for your content won´t pay in future too. You think you can force them like this by blowing up some file sharing sites but you´re totally wrong man.

If there will be no "cyberlocker" anymore where uploaders are paid for new commissions they would simply find any dmca ignoring off-shore hoster to host own websites on and upload to other "cyberlockers" (without affiliate systems) and moneytize your ripped content in a different way.

So what ever they will keep ripping your content and publishing and make money with it, actually people allready doing so and making even far more money than from any hosters affiliate system.

The problem starts far more earlier where people trigger a search at Google for something they don´t wont to pay for. "keyword + download + free" So, better try getting a job as engineer in Mountain View and develop some better algorithm that will sort out things like this from their indexes quicker.

Maybe the best way for your digital goods not to get ripped and leaving money floating into other hands than yours would be selling them in a local store and not make use of the internet...

xenigo 06-27-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027887)
what an idiot.

Oh look. Our resident proponent of piracy has decided to chime in. What nuggets of ignorance do you have for us today, LDDD? :321GFY

xenigo 06-27-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027944)
Maybe the best way for your digital goods not to get ripped and leaving money floating into other hands than yours would be selling them in a local store and not make use of the internet...

Ahh yes, your infallible "instead of doing something, you should do nothing!" strategy.

There's only one side that strategy benefits, and that's the pirates.

Go fuck yourself, pirating asshole.

georgeyw 06-27-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027944)
In general you´re right but still your efforts are kind a weak.

People not paying for your content won´t pay in future too. You think you can force them like this by blowing up some file sharing sites but you´re totally wrong man.

If there will be no "cyberlocker" anymore where uploaders are paid for new commissions they would simply find any dmca ignoring off-shore hoster to host own websites on and upload to other "cyberlockers" (without affiliate systems) and moneytize your ripped content in a different way.

So what ever they will keep ripping your content and publishing and make money with it, actually people allready doing so and making even far more money than from any hosters affiliate system.

The problem starts far more earlier where people trigger a search at Google for something they don´t wont to pay for. "keyword + download + free" So, better try getting a job as engineer in Mountain View and develop some better algorithm that will sort out things like this from their indexes quicker.

Maybe the best way for your digital goods not to get ripped and leaving money floating into other hands than yours would be selling them in a local store and not make use of the internet...

Off shore is not a possibility when they have no means of PAYING for it :2 cents:

Tjeezers 06-27-2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027055)

1-402-935-2000 (Customer Service, Paypal Receptionist) Press 2 to go to reception.
1-402-935-2238 (Tiffany Zaporowski, Strategic Risk Operations)
1-402-935-2007 (A very annoyed project manager who I have called)

Tiffany has her voice mail on, gave her a detailed message, and also told them all affiliation with them would be closed cq terminated.
The annoyed project manager his number is behind various menu`s, consider that a waste of time.

Still, Tiffany should be getting real irritated by now. I advice anyone to take a moment, a minute or two to inform her.

Vjo 06-27-2012 04:31 PM

I am only MEDIA! Neutral! No horse in race! :)

Next post after the one AK posted and translated: (Google Translate)

"Ping can not do anything. This must be hundreds of thousands of webmasters, instead of a couple of thousands reading this topic.

Regarding Adultking - a piece of an idiot, just no words. Hopefully soon I will plant a minimum of 5 years for this (downloading cp (<-- those two words only EDITED to cp) ) - especially since he is not from the CIS / Asia / Africa and from Australia.

Affected owners of the background, reading this topic nastoyalno recommend to state in all possible instances, including PayPal on its activities with the whole description (ip, passwords, secret addresses, emails, dates and so on)."

lddd 06-27-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19027961)
Off shore is not a possibility when they have no means of PAYING for it :2 cents:

You see you not even able to read, and you want to fight against pirates, lol. Guess they are a way smarter than you will ever be.

Also i am not a pirate! Just because i am telling some facts don´t makes me a content ripper. Actually i was trying to help and bringing some ideas in, but if you think fucking some file sharing sites and you´re done keep on going...

I never said that "doing nothing" is the best strategy, simply listen or stfu.

xenigo 06-27-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 19027450)

I find it funny how they worded that. "He's planning to destroy all file lockers that have porn content"

It doesn't seem like they understand our agenda is not to stop porn... it's to stop piracy.

xenigo 06-27-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027970)
You see you not even able to read, and you want to fight against pirates, lol. Guess they are a way smarter than you will ever be.

Also i am not a pirate! Just because i am telling some facts don´t makes me a content ripper. Actually i was trying to help and bringing some ideas in, but if you think fucking some file sharing sites and you´re done keep on going...

I never said that "doing nothing" is the best strategy, simply listen or stfu.

Your words are exactly the same words I read on the piracy forums. They're exactly the same words I see on the anti-PIPA and anti-SOPA and anti-CISPA groups on Facebook. They're exactly the same words that I see bantered about on the YouTube channels on these topics.

The resounding message is "You can't make any money, because the business model has changed. You need to do something different now, cause we' stealing all yo' shit... and sellin' it for ourselves."

Another popular theme on the same message is "All the companies that create this content are GREEDY. They're GREEDY FILTHY PORN PRODUCING pigs who abuse women, dehumanize them, and desecrate them... all for their filthy profits. So yes, they deserve to have all of their content uploaded to piracy sites."

Doesn't work that way. Media production companies are not going to stop the pursuit of wrongdoers because a bunch of hyenas decide they want to steal everything.

idolbucks 06-27-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three.Thousand (Post 19027044)
How about google bombing paypal to lead to this :)

This x million

$5 submissions 06-27-2012 05:00 PM

Good looking out

georgeyw 06-27-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027970)
You see you not even able to read, and you want to fight against pirates, lol. Guess they are a way smarter than you will ever be.

Also i am not a pirate! Just because i am telling some facts don´t makes me a content ripper. Actually i was trying to help and bringing some ideas in, but if you think fucking some file sharing sites and you´re done keep on going...

I never said that "doing nothing" is the best strategy, simply listen or stfu.

Please tell me what I 'not even able to read'.

People have searched for 'free' + whatever since day dot. If you do not understand that the FIRST port of call for 99.99999% of people is the FREE alternative, well then you are a complete and utter moron.

Reducing the ease in being able to download for FREE is what causes sales to increase due to the fact they are unable to find what they desire for free.

However I fear your stupidity knows no bounds and what I have typed above will whistle as it leaves your ears..

xenigo 06-27-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19028004)
People have searched for 'free' + whatever since day dot. If you do not understand that the FIRST port of call for 99.99999% of people is the FREE alternative, well then you are a complete and utter moron.

Reducing the ease in being able to download for FREE is what causes sales to increase due to the fact they are unable to find what they desire for free.

Exactly. Well put. Nobody is going to pay for something they don't have to pay for.

By LDDD's argument, if your content was good enough to pay for... people would pay for it either way. Wrong, LDDD. That's not the way the world works.

raymor 06-27-2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19027312)
Looking at the reports about Megaupload in the mainstream media it seems "file-sharing site" is the most common term used.

Or "pirate file sharing sites" or "ilegal file sharing sites" or even "child porn sharing sites".


Not "file hosts" - host have DMCA protection, so don't encourage people to thonk of them as hosts. Instead, use terms like "pirate" or "illegal" to specify exactly who you are going after - not dropbox, but "illegal pirate sites."

Tjeezers 06-27-2012 05:13 PM

If you want to spice up the fight, post this to some famous Christian Facebook pages, and ask for their help. I am pretty sure they will be able to crucify Paypal, knowing their fight lust for blood when God`s name is brought in shame. If you need a army of fighters, go get the Christians on your side, as Paypal claims to be God obedient and live by the bible. :)

Facebook and paypal go hand in hand.... why not use this to your advantage?
You`ll be able to get a lot of shares/likes when you market this right.

Tjeezers 06-27-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19027687)
Are you sure that your goal is to "shut all File Lockers" down?

I believe that there are some legitimate and legal uses for File Lockers, so you should be careful that you do not unknowingly alienate legitimate users of FL sites, and risk having them push back, and even possibly align with the illegal users of the FL sites.
ADG

show me one example of a legit user please, and tell me how he will group up with illegal users cause his legal business is killed by those same illegal users.

And if not, just post a picture or something.......

19teenporn 06-27-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 19028026)
If you want to spice up the fight, post this to some famous Christian Facebook pages, and ask for their help. I am pretty sure they will be able to crucify Paypal, knowing their fight lust for blood when God`s name is brought in shame. If you need a army of fighters, go get the Christians on your side, as Paypal claims to be God obedient and live by the bible. :)

Facebook and paypal go hand in hand.... why not use this to your advantage?
You`ll be able to get a lot of shares/likes when you market this right.

That would be great!

They would crucify paypal and filelockers!
Here's a bump for action...

AdultKing 06-27-2012 09:10 PM

Today I fielded a call from Adrian Christie of Paypal Australia who contacted me after hearing from a journalist in Australia.

He assured me that Paypal would investigate every instance on the http://coldcopy.com.au website and would shut down sites in violation

However he did not seem to get the fact that these sites are so uncontrollable in what can be uploaded and shared that even if there is no violation today, there could be tomorrow.

File Sharing sites need to be added to the list of sites that Paypal prohibit in their AUP.

He indicated he might provide a formal response and if he does I will post it to the website.


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