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xholly 03-23-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19542206)
Right, it fell because of fires :1orglaugh

I must admit you are great at arguing your point Johnny, can't believe anyone doubted your MIT credentials :upsidedow

EonBlue 03-23-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19542206)
Right, it fell because of fires :1orglaugh

No it fell because our reptilian overlords wanted to perpetrate a massive false-flag operation to justify an invasion of another country to get oil which everyone knows they need to drink to survive. However, they felt that slamming two airliners into the twin towers and having both of those towers collapse would not be horrific enough and not enough to convince people to support their evil plans. So they decided to also collapse WTC 7, by means of controlled demolition, to really, really drive the point home. They knew that the shock and outrage over the collapse of WTC 7, a plain looking building no one had even heard of before, would really put the icing on the cake and get everyone onside to support whatever plans they had. Let's face it - without the collapse of WTC 7, the whole event might not have even made the news that day. Or maybe just a brief mention after sports and weather.

EonBlue 03-23-2013 11:26 AM

More proof - almost smoking gun level:



How can anyone possibly refute that?

:Oh crap

BlackCrayon 03-23-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19541664)
“We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.”

-Ayn Rand

lets assume these theories are true...what did the 'government' get out of doing this? new fancy laws? a 'reason' to invade a country? if they are going to kill their own people, i fail to see why they would need to use this as an excuse to do anything. and all the laws that came afterwards..can you really say your life changed because of them?

you think people are fools for buying what they're sold. you're also buying, just from a different source. ever think the real truth is nothing that's been put out there at all yet? that no one will ever really know until the information becomes declassified? no, you just regurgitate what you've been told from your alternate leaders and then have the audacity to mock others for doing the exact same thing. like i said before, you're just a sheep of a different color.

Jel 03-23-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19542236)
No it fell because our reptilian overlords wanted to perpetrate a massive false-flag operation to justify an invasion of another country to get oil which everyone knows they need to drink to survive. However, they felt that slamming two airliners into the twin towers and having both of those towers collapse would not be horrific enough and not enough to convince people to support their evil plans. So they decided to also collapse WTC 7, by means of controlled demolition, to really, really drive the point home. They knew that the shock and outrage over the collapse of WTC 7, a plain looking building no one had even heard of before, would really put the icing on the cake and get everyone onside to support whatever plans they had. Let's face it - without the collapse of WTC 7, the whole event might not have even made the news that day. Or maybe just a brief mention after sports and weather.

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

TheFootMan5 03-23-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19542236)
No it fell because our reptilian overlords wanted to perpetrate a massive false-flag operation to justify an invasion of another country to get oil which everyone knows they need to drink to survive. However, they felt that slamming two airliners into the twin towers and having both of those towers collapse would not be horrific enough and not enough to convince people to support their evil plans. So they decided to also collapse WTC 7, by means of controlled demolition, to really, really drive the point home. They knew that the shock and outrage over the collapse of WTC 7, a plain looking building no one had even heard of before, would really put the icing on the cake and get everyone onside to support whatever plans they had. Let's face it - without the collapse of WTC 7, the whole event might not have even made the news that day. Or maybe just a brief mention after sports and weather.

No 9/11 happened because a bunch of arabs living in a cave who couldn't fly a plane hated americans freedom and decided to hijack four planes simultaneously while defeating a multi billion dollar air defense system and ended up taking down three buildings with two of those planes while conspiring with a bearded man in a cave...and one of the hijackers passports was found in the rubble at the WTC site! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

TheFootMan5 03-23-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19542251)
lets assume these theories are true...what did the 'government' get out of doing this? new fancy laws? a 'reason' to invade a country? if they are going to kill their own people, i fail to see why they would need to use this as an excuse to do anything. and all the laws that came afterwards..can you really say your life changed because of them?

you think people are fools for buying what they're sold. you're also buying, just from a different source. ever think the real truth is nothing that's been put out there at all yet? that no one will ever really know until the information becomes declassified? no, you just regurgitate what you've been told from your alternate leaders and then have the audacity to mock others for doing the exact same thing. like i said before, you're just a sheep of a different color.

This whole idea of "killing their own people" makes no sense to me at all. I love this ownership idea and that "no way they would do that!" meanwhile millions are locked up in cages for non crimes. Unbelievable how the average moron thinks.

What did the rulers accomplish? Is that some sort of joke question? Where've you been the last decade?

BlackCrayon 03-23-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19542297)
This whole idea of "killing their own people" makes no sense to me at all. I love this ownership idea and that "no way they would do that!" meanwhile millions are locked up in cages for non crimes. Unbelievable how the average moron thinks.

What did the rulers accomplish? Is that some sort of joke question? Where've you been the last decade?

Its obviously a question you don't want to bother to answer. If it was an inside job, was the previous bombing also an inside job? if gore had been elected would it of even happened? wouldn't it of been much easier to fake an attack on a naval ship if they wanted reason to invade a country? i'm willing to bet you were 12 or younger in 2001.

TheFootMan5 03-23-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19542307)
Its obviously a question you don't want to bother to answer. If it was an inside job, was the previous bombing also an inside job? if gore had been elected would it of even happened? wouldn't it of been much easier to fake an attack on a naval ship if they wanted reason to invade a country? i'm willing to bet you were 12 or younger in 2001.

The FBI created the plot in the first WTC bombings. Where've you been, under a rock?

BlackCrayon 03-23-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19542314)
The FBI created the plot in the first WTC bombings. Where've you been, under a rock?

i don't waste my time watching BS youtube videos, sorry. again as usual you avoid most everything. when are you going to take responsibility for your failure in life instead of blaming it on forces out of your control?

TheFootMan5 03-23-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19542318)
i don't waste my time watching BS youtube videos, sorry. again as usual you avoid most everything. when are you going to take responsibility for your failure in life instead of blaming it on forces out of your control?

This statement has nothing to do with anything.

I guess you never heard of Emad Salem? Probably not. Ignorant, uninformed pathetic moron!

EonBlue 03-23-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19542295)
No 9/11 happened because a bunch of arabs living in a cave who couldn't fly a plane hated americans freedom and decided to hijack four planes simultaneously while defeating a multi billion dollar air defense system and ended up taking down three buildings with two of those planes while conspiring with a bearded man in a cave...and one of the hijackers passports was found in the rubble at the WTC site! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Actually none of those guys lived in caves. Many of them were university educated in the west and several of them had passed enough piloting lessons to perform their tasks.

http://911myths.com/index.php/The_Hijackers


Air defense didn't come into play because there were no unidentified aircraft.

And it's not a complete shock that a passport was found in the rubble. Many personal affects from several passengers were recovered at the crash sites.

http://911myths.com/index.php/Person...Proof_Passport

BlackCrayon 03-23-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19542320)
This statement has nothing to do with anything.

I guess you never heard of Emad Salem? Probably not. Ignorant, uninformed pathetic moron!

and what have you done with all of your proved information? why don't you go for a bike ride and buy a lollipop little boy.

dyna mo 03-23-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19542320)
This statement has nothing to do with anything.

I guess you never heard of Emad Salem? Probably not. Ignorant, uninformed pathetic moron!

i know exactly who the fuck he is and this is yet another one of your fucked-up psycho-spins on shit.

helterskelter808 03-23-2013 12:35 PM

Can the people who believe the batshit crazy official conspiracy theory please post evidence to back up their theory. Thanks.

Jel 03-23-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19542320)
Ignorant, uninformed pathetic moron!

lol, you forgot "smelly poo-poo breath fatty fatty ginger!!!"

what a cunt lol :1orglaugh

dyna mo 03-23-2013 12:36 PM

for the rest of the adults

Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.

The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad A. Salem, should be used, the informer said.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/28/ny...ted=all&src=pm

BFT3K 03-23-2013 01:44 PM

Here, I just typed this up for everyone....

The 9/11 Debate:

Non Believer: The facts don't add up. The investigations were incomplete.

Believer: There is nothing more to investigate. It is obvious what happened. The media and our government told us everything we need to know.

Non Believer: But look here, at all of these sensible questions, posed by all sorts of experts.

Believer: Those questions are silly. The people posing them are crazy. 9/11 was not an inside job in any way.

Non Believer: But here are hundreds of videos and interviews that should be considered.

Believer: I don' t watch youtube videos that I don't want to agree with. Here's a youtube video explaining why 9/11 was not a conspiracy.

Non Believer: You are an idiot.

Believer: You are an idiot.

Bankers and War Profiteers The World Over: Hahahaha!

dyna mo 03-23-2013 01:56 PM

that summary couldn't be more wrong. well, it could be actually, but it's way off as it is.

dyna mo 03-23-2013 02:01 PM

here's th ebig whammy for you conspiracists.

in the 12 years since 9/11, what have you accomplished?


nada.

Jel 03-23-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19542404)
Here, I just typed this up for everyone....

The 9/11 Debate:

Sane Person: The facts don't add up. The conspiracy theories are incorrect.

Truther: There is nothing more to investigate. It is obvious what happened. Youtube and our truther community told us everything we need to know.

Sane Person: But look here, at all of these sensible answers to the so-called conspiracy 'evidence', given by all sorts of experts.

Truther: Those answers are silly. The people giving them are crazy. The whole world is an inside job in every possible way.

Sane Person: But here are hundreds of videos and interviews that should be considered.

Truther: I don't watch youtube videos that I don't want to agree with. Here's a youtube video explaining why 9/11 was a conspiracy.

Sane Person: You are an idiot.

Truther: You are an idiot.

People with more important things to spend their time on: *silence*

fixed :thumbsup

[Labret] 03-23-2013 02:14 PM

Here is how it should go...

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Canadian: 9/11 was an inside job!

Hero: *swings hammer, caves in skull*

helterskelter808 03-23-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19542328)
Can the people who believe the batshit crazy official conspiracy theory please post evidence to back up their theory. Thanks.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg4rr7V3tw1qaifa5.gif

dgraves 03-23-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19542417)
here's th ebig whammy for you conspiracists.

in the 12 years since 9/11, what have you accomplished?


nada.

How can anything possibly be accomplished when it starts and ends at the top? Some people/organizations are above the law, that's just reality.

Building 7 is the smoking gun and there's no way a steel structure could come down like that without explosives. Even the owner of the building admitted that but then tried to say he meant something else when he said "Pull It". He's so arrogant that he figured he can say whatever he wanted and it wouldn't matter, and he was right about that. After all, it's nothing that can't be fixed by throwing money at it.

Building 7 alone should be enough evidence but it wasn't and if that doesn't do it then the Government can literally get away with anything. The same Government that wants to disarm citizens.

helterskelter808 03-23-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19542417)
here's th ebig whammy for you conspiracists.

in the 12 years since 9/11, what have you accomplished?


nada.

What have you accomplished?

xholly 03-23-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19542472)
How can anything possibly be accomplished when it starts and ends at the top? Some people/organizations are above the law, that's just reality.

Building 7 is the smoking gun and there's no way a steel structure could come down like that without explosives. Even the owner of the building admitted that but then tried to say he meant something else when he said "Pull It". He's so arrogant that he figured he can say whatever he wanted and it wouldn't matter, and he was right about that. After all, it's nothing that can't be fixed by throwing money at it.

Building 7 alone should be enough evidence but it wasn't and if that doesn't do it then the Government can literally get away with anything. The same Government that wants to disarm citizens.

Are you prepared to follow your ideas through to their logical conclusion and bring the firefighters into the conspiracy and say they were part of it since they were responsible for the evacuation and were the ones certain of the buildings collapse?

also no doubt you did not click on the link eonblue posted earlier with many quotes from the firemen on scene and established facts as I understand ignoring facts is simply the truther way.

oh well i realize trying to talk reason to a closed mind who wont even bother to click a link before posting rubbish is like pushing shit uphill but here is a quote from an email from the chief on the ground that day who made the decisions. A man whos brother was killed in the towers (let that sink in for a bit) and who was the one responsible for "pulling it". There is far more on the link which you will not visit either.

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Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 (as did many on my staff).

The reasons are as follows:

1 - Although prior to that day high-rise structures had never collapsed, The collapse of WTC 1 & 2 showed that certain high-rise structures subjected to damage from impact and from fire will collapse.

2. The collapse of WTC 1 damaged portions of the lower floors of WTC 7.

3. WTC 7, we knew, was built on a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels.

4. numerous fires on many floors of WTC 7 burned without sufficient water supply to attack them.

For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.

Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.

Regards, Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY (retired)
Yes I know its silly arguing with truthers again as they are so closed minded and never bother to check out anything that goes against their beliefs but sometimes I just can't help myself and its late and I can't sleep so...

dgraves 03-23-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 19542487)
oh well i realize trying to talk reason to a closed mind who wont even bother to click a link before posting rubbish is like pushing shit uphill but here is a quote from an email from the chief on the ground that day who made the decisions. A man whos brother was killed in the towers (let that sink in for a bit) and who was the one responsible for "pulling it". There is far more on the link which you will not visit either.



Yes I know its silly arguing with truthers again as they are so closed minded and never bother to check out anything that goes against their beliefs but sometimes I just can't help myself and its late and I can't sleep so...

The Government was counting on you and you didn't let them down.

xholly 03-23-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19542495)
The Government was counting on you and you didn't let them down.

congratulations, you could not refute a single thing i posted and again resorted to pointing fingers. Ive seen creationists post who were less dogmatic and made more sense. Also dunno why the US government would rely on me since im not even a US citizen.

It's ok I know you did your best, I understand. Damm gubment and all that, dey gun take our gunz, damm them!

TheFootMan5 03-23-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19542417)
here's th ebig whammy for you conspiracists.

in the 12 years since 9/11, what have you accomplished?


nada.

This is another non-argument and not statement. It's what a typical propagandized moron does to attack his fellow slaves, therefore defending the slave master

BFT3K 03-23-2013 04:48 PM

Maybe the black boxes from the planes could answer some questions.

What, no black boxes found? Just the remains of paper passports that perfectly confirm the government's story? Hmmm, that's weird.

Maybe all of the NYC area expert FBI guys can figure this out.

What, they were all called over to California before 9/11 and unable to return because commercial flights were canceled?

That's odd.

Well, maybe you can provide a video of a steel building crashing down due to office fires - EVER, since the beginning of time?

No? None?

Hmmmm....

TheFootMan5 03-23-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 19542487)
Are you prepared to follow your ideas through to their logical conclusion and bring the firefighters into the conspiracy and say they were part of it since they were responsible for the evacuation and were the ones certain of the buildings collapse?

also no doubt you did not click on the link eonblue posted earlier with many quotes from the firemen on scene and established facts as I understand ignoring facts is simply the truther way.

oh well i realize trying to talk reason to a closed mind who wont even bother to click a link before posting rubbish is like pushing shit uphill but here is a quote from an email from the chief on the ground that day who made the decisions. A man whos brother was killed in the towers (let that sink in for a bit) and who was the one responsible for "pulling it". There is far more on the link which you will not visit either.



Yes I know its silly arguing with truthers again as they are so closed minded and never bother to check out anything that goes against their beliefs but sometimes I just can't help myself and its late and I can't sleep so...

No, the firefighters weren't in on the conspiracy just like teachers aren't in on the conspiracy to dumb down the minds of the youth and indoctrinate them into the system. They are a part of it for sure, but not "in" on it.

Sure, the fire fighter thought it would collapse, but that certainly was not a collapse

TheFootMan5 03-23-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19542569)
Maybe the black boxes from the planes could answer some questions.

What, no black boxes found? Just the remains of paper passports that perfectly confirm the government's story? Hmmm, that's weird.

Maybe all of the NYC area expert FBI guys can figure this out.

What, they were all called over to California before 9/11 and unable to return because commercial flights were canceled?

That's odd.

Well, maybe you can provide a video of a steel building crashing down due to office fires - EVER, since the beginning of time?

No? None?

Hmmmm....

Yea, the whole black box thing is just the dumbest thing I have ever heard. "Fire burned them up!" LOL They ALWAYS get the black boxes and a few people have come forward saying they were in fact recovered...but of course that doesn't matter!

EonBlue 03-23-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19542569)
Maybe the black boxes from the planes could answer some questions.

What, no black boxes found? Just the remains of paper passports that perfectly confirm the government's story? Hmmm, that's weird.

Maybe all of the NYC area expert FBI guys can figure this out.

What, they were all called over to California before 9/11 and unable to return because commercial flights were canceled?

That's odd.

Well, maybe you can provide a video of a steel building crashing down due to office fires - EVER, since the beginning of time?

No? None?

Hmmmm....

The Black Boxes

Personal Effects and the Crash-Proof Passport

TheFootMan5 03-23-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19542587)

lol how convenient. The cockpit voice recorder was damaged. Sure, I believe that! Of course there is no proof, just a press release...but because it came from "authorities", then "irrefutable" evidence is not needed

dyna mo 03-23-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19542477)
What have you accomplished?

i've rubbed gfy conspiracist's nose in their own shit time and again.


it's becoming tedious though. prolly need a better debate adversary at some point. definitely a more adult topic too, after years and years of doing so and their complete lack of accomplishing anything productive, not just lining alex jones' pockets with teh moneys.

TheFootMan5 03-23-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19542593)
i've rubbed gfy conspiracist's nose in their own shit time and again.


it's becoming tedious though. prolly need a better debate adversary at some point. definitely a more adult topic too, after years and years of doing so and their complete lack of accomplishing anything productive, not just lining alex jones' pockets with teh moneys.

Right, attack Alex Jones for making a few hundred thousand dollars a year in the free market but not the guys making billions and trillions killing millions of people all over the world and enslaving billions

dyna mo 03-23-2013 05:16 PM

let's all live our lives based on the fiction and fact from jonny clip's almanac eh




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EonBlue 03-23-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19542598)
Right, attack Alex Jones for making a few hundred thousand dollars a year in the free market but not the guys making billions and trillions killing millions of people all over the world and enslaving billions

Yeah, he makes a few hundred thousand dollars a year of off people like you by perpetuating these retarded conspiracy myths and suckering you into helping him do it. You are his slave. And he is laughing all the way to the bank and laughing at all of the sheep that follow him. He's almost like a modern day L. Ron Hubbard.

mineistaken 03-23-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19542472)
How can anything possibly be accomplished when it starts and ends at the top? Some people/organizations are above the law, that's just reality.

Building 7 is the smoking gun and there's no way a steel structure could come down like that without explosives. Even the owner of the building admitted that but then tried to say he meant something else when he said "Pull It". He's so arrogant that he figured he can say whatever he wanted and it wouldn't matter, and he was right about that. After all, it's nothing that can't be fixed by throwing money at it.

Building 7 alone should be enough evidence but it wasn't and if that doesn't do it then the Government can literally get away with anything. The same Government that wants to disarm citizens.

Good question, anti truthers do not speak about building7 often :2 cents:

BFT3K 03-23-2013 06:16 PM

This guy knows EXACTLY what happened, but he isn't talking...

http://fbtrouble.wpengine.netdna-cdn...13/03/1nth.jpg


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