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Old 03-20-2013, 05:12 PM   #1
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9/11 Finally Solved (Names, Connections, Motives)

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Finally! Solved. We can put this in the rear view. Good news. Surely conspiracy nuts will shut up about it?? No? Hmm... shit....
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Until next week, when you find a more interesting story you will promote as the "truth."
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I can't hear the narrator inhale between long, rambling sentences.

Must breathe through his sphincter.
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I can't hear the narrator inhale between long, rambling sentences.

Must breathe through his sphincter.
He breathes through his gills. C'mon man! Get on board!
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OK, so waitasec. I thought it was shapeshifting reptilian aliens?

Did I miss a david icke newsletter???
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OK, so waitasec. I thought it was shapeshifting reptilian aliens?
JohnnyClips said it was

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Most videos on YT are a few minutes long and pack it in - The conspiracy nuts make them go on forever so no sane person with a life would bother watching them...

Then they say "Did you even bother watching the film?"...

I use the term "Sane person with a life" loosely, this is GFY...
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So the CIA staged a black op to cover up financial support of other black ops and they killed all of the banking executives because they were going to expose financial moves made by people that never existed?

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I won't even watch this stupidity.
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damn, i never thought i'd live to see the day that 9/11 was solved. outstanding job by all the researchers and investigators involved. that's a wrap kids, time to get back in the Mystery Machine and on to the next adventure.

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I'm the one that killed johnnyclips and I approve this video.
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lol... Bit it's true
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God this guys voice is horrendous. I would've rather heard someone with a tracheostomy narrate that.
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Some of it is funny, the rest of it is sad.
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The Government knows this country is full of complete idiots and they could have every swinging dick confess to their involvement in 9/11 and still nothing would be done about it because the sheeple are in total denial. If watching Building 7 coming down isn't enough evidence then there's no limit to what they can get away with.

The Feds are laughing their asses off and probably have bets that we're so stupid that we'll even hand over our guns.
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the truth is hidden deep within this short video.. may not find it the first time around.. but it's there..

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Well it's about time! thank goodness some jerkbag from youtube has finally been able to put all the pieces together!
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Phew. Thank god that's been cleared up.

Hey look, the same guy also narrated this video:

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Most videos on YT are a few minutes long and pack it in - The conspiracy nuts make them go on forever so no sane person with a life would bother watching them...

Then they say "Did you even bother watching the film?"...

I use the term "Sane person with a life" loosely, this is GFY...
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In Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) there is a great deal of discussion on "certainty" being the enemy of learning, where doubt and self doubt are critical to learning. After all, when you know it all or are certain in your views/understanding etc, you have nothing more to learn. Some people use certainty as a tool to allow themselves to continue to adhere to a inordinately distorted perception of reality where any evidence that may call that certainty into doubt is summarily rejected without consideration and where any evidence that can be distorted to fit or support their views, is. You ever notice how the more bizarre or absurd a view is, the more certain the person holds that view is that he or she correct?

It's comical when you read/listen etc to those sorts of lectures and books because you instantly think of conspiracy theorists on this board. Conspiracy theorists are usually 100% certain in their views. There is usually never any doubt. There is usually zero receptiveness to other viewpoints or ideas that might challenge their own and they've learned to mask a wide range of unhealthy emotional behaviors behind the age old self deception of "i'm just asking questions" ... as if they haven't already formed or reached a conclusion are are merely inquisitive folks with no pre-conceived notions. Even more interesting is that they almost always follow a wider pattern of general distrust of authority figures and then continue to express that when and where possible (as wehateporn does). The truth is that the questions usually rhetorical and used to exude a sense of "wanting to get at the truth" and discovering the truth and being accepting of the data no matter where it leads... when the intent is the exact opposite. It's also a tool used to establish some basic rapport to get someone to engage by suggestion "hey, like you, i'm just here to learn" but of course, it's always quickly clear that a conclusion was already reached and really, its about changing your perception of reality to fit their own.

This is also a fascinating thing about human behavior and the mind. From the standpoint of the human experience, there is no objective reality. Reality itself and what we experience is generally far more unique to the individual than we like to believe. Our brains process and insane amount of information everyday... and with that comes a great deal of shortcuts, information being ignored, deleted or even severely distorted when useful. After all, we are nothing more than containers for DNA which have no other purpose other than to survive and replicate. In other words, when crossing the street, its useful to glance at oncoming traffic and be aware of the speed and distance of the approaching vehicles but your mind will delete other information such as what is behind you, the color of a building behind you and a whole lot of information that is not relevant to the act of surviving crossing the street. The only information you need that moment is information relevant to survival (your DNA's survival). Most information we process each day is not relevant to that end, thus, not overly important. Your mind also distorts information to your benefit and often detriment. For example, you might be more likely to believe a car is farther away and going slower than it is if you are in a hurry and intend to dart out into the street. Something you believe in the moment and action you decide to take might seem very reasonable and safe but onlookers might view as a bit insane. Once completing that crossing, one would then further distort things with a satisfied sense of "see, i told you so" - to reinforce the idea in your own mind that you made a fine decision and your wiring is perfectly fine. At the end of that experience, what you are left with is both a distorted memory and understanding of what happened based on how you perceive and interpret everything around you, based on your own neurological filters, based on information you paid attention to or ignored, based on information you retained or deleted or distorted. A single event happened with a single set of facts, yet there might be many many interpretations and understandings of what happened - complicating that is that your mind will continue to distort memories. Memories are not records filed away that can be recalled as we think they are. Memories are memories of memories of memories and your unconscious mind is constantly filling in gaps as it goes with different information (usually information favorable to what you want to believe about that event), thus, further changing and distorting information and causing a much much different interpretation of those same events at later points in time. Consider that happening with every witness to the event and the combinations of interpretations of what happened and what they were distorted into... eventually become more or less, unlimited.

Everything that wehateporn and similar people on this board post tends to follow a common theme or thread. Generally, its all an expression of anxiety and an exaggerated distrust of authority. Some exhibit more severe symptoms than others (johnnyclips) and some clearly have other, much deeper issues and most often, these views are the symptoms of much greater emotional and/or mental problems. Their interpretations of events are severely distorted to align with the world as they see it, which has been shaped by these emotional and/or mental conditions so their daily experience is more easily reconciled with this distorted perspective of the world around them. Their interpretation of events are severely distorted from the outset and over time, those interpretations become increasingly distorted until they literally just can't reconcile their perceptions and interpretations with those of people around them. because of that, they have to then fall back on standard "go to" insults like "sheeple", "brainwashed" etc. Otherwise, what would the explanation be? If you are 100% certain in your views as being 100% correct and a lot of the world around you is telling you different, you either have to have a massive emotional breakdown as everything you know and are, suddenly evaporates and is filled with uncertainty, insecurity and the fear of having no real understanding of anything around you in that moment or you can resist and insist everyone else is the problem and have the benefit of feeling like everything is just fine as they go on with their day.

The internet has become a tool for people to find and interact with like minded people. I've always been interested in where this would lead. The problem of course with this relatively new medium of communication that makes it much much easier for a person with a exceedingly distorted perception of reality to remain "certain" of their views as they can then align with greater and greater numbers of people who suffer from the same problem. There is an old maxim in cult behavior "when more people that believe what you believe, the more right you become". This is why that in a somewhat perverse way, its also important to challenge those people, to speak up and to marginalize them to the greatest extent possible.

In this respect, you are doing the world a great service
Crush them every chance you get. Not because its the nice thing to do. But because its for the greater good.
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What evidence is there that 19 hijackers and a few others overseas had anything to do with it? There is absolutely no evidence and no proof to support this nonsensical government "theory"
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What evidence is there that 19 hijackers and a few others overseas had anything to do with it? There is absolutely no evidence and no proof to support this nonsensical government "theory"


You people simply are insane.
What fucking planet do you live on?
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In Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) there is a great deal of discussion on "certainty" being the enemy of learning, where doubt and self doubt are critical to learning. After all, when you know it all or are certain in your views/understanding etc, you have nothing more to learn. Some people use certainty as a tool to allow themselves to continue to adhere to a inordinately distorted perception of reality where any evidence that may call that certainty into doubt is summarily rejected without consideration and where any evidence that can be distorted to fit or support their views, is. You ever notice how the more bizarre or absurd a view is, the more certain the person holds that view is that he or she correct?

It's comical when you read/listen etc to those sorts of lectures and books because you instantly think of conspiracy theorists on this board. Conspiracy theorists are usually 100% certain in their views. There is usually never any doubt. There is usually zero receptiveness to other viewpoints or ideas that might challenge their own and they've learned to mask a wide range of unhealthy emotional behaviors behind the age old self deception of "i'm just asking questions" ... as if they haven't already formed or reached a conclusion are are merely inquisitive folks with no pre-conceived notions. Even more interesting is that they almost always follow a wider pattern of general distrust of authority figures and then continue to express that when and where possible (as wehateporn does). The truth is that the questions usually rhetorical and used to exude a sense of "wanting to get at the truth" and discovering the truth and being accepting of the data no matter where it leads... when the intent is the exact opposite. It's also a tool used to establish some basic rapport to get someone to engage by suggestion "hey, like you, i'm just here to learn" but of course, it's always quickly clear that a conclusion was already reached and really, its about changing your perception of reality to fit their own.

This is also a fascinating thing about human behavior and the mind. From the standpoint of the human experience, there is no objective reality. Reality itself and what we experience is generally far more unique to the individual than we like to believe. Our brains process and insane amount of information everyday... and with that comes a great deal of shortcuts, information being ignored, deleted or even severely distorted when useful. After all, we are nothing more than containers for DNA which have no other purpose other than to survive and replicate. In other words, when crossing the street, its useful to glance at oncoming traffic and be aware of the speed and distance of the approaching vehicles but your mind will delete other information such as what is behind you, the color of a building behind you and a whole lot of information that is not relevant to the act of surviving crossing the street. The only information you need that moment is information relevant to survival (your DNA's survival). Most information we process each day is not relevant to that end, thus, not overly important. Your mind also distorts information to your benefit and often detriment. For example, you might be more likely to believe a car is farther away and going slower than it is if you are in a hurry and intend to dart out into the street. Something you believe in the moment and action you decide to take might seem very reasonable and safe but onlookers might view as a bit insane. Once completing that crossing, one would then further distort things with a satisfied sense of "see, i told you so" - to reinforce the idea in your own mind that you made a fine decision and your wiring is perfectly fine. At the end of that experience, what you are left with is both a distorted memory and understanding of what happened based on how you perceive and interpret everything around you, based on your own neurological filters, based on information you paid attention to or ignored, based on information you retained or deleted or distorted. A single event happened with a single set of facts, yet there might be many many interpretations and understandings of what happened - complicating that is that your mind will continue to distort memories. Memories are not records filed away that can be recalled as we think they are. Memories are memories of memories of memories and your unconscious mind is constantly filling in gaps as it goes with different information (usually information favorable to what you want to believe about that event), thus, further changing and distorting information and causing a much much different interpretation of those same events at later points in time. Consider that happening with every witness to the event and the combinations of interpretations of what happened and what they were distorted into... eventually become more or less, unlimited.

Everything that wehateporn and similar people on this board post tends to follow a common theme or thread. Generally, its all an expression of anxiety and an exaggerated distrust of authority. Some exhibit more severe symptoms than others (johnnyclips) and some clearly have other, much deeper issues and most often, these views are the symptoms of much greater emotional and/or mental problems. Their interpretations of events are severely distorted to align with the world as they see it, which has been shaped by these emotional and/or mental conditions so their daily experience is more easily reconciled with this distorted perspective of the world around them. Their interpretation of events are severely distorted from the outset and over time, those interpretations become increasingly distorted until they literally just can't reconcile their perceptions and interpretations with those of people around them. because of that, they have to then fall back on standard "go to" insults like "sheeple", "brainwashed" etc. Otherwise, what would the explanation be? If you are 100% certain in your views as being 100% correct and a lot of the world around you is telling you different, you either have to have a massive emotional breakdown as everything you know and are, suddenly evaporates and is filled with uncertainty, insecurity and the fear of having no real understanding of anything around you in that moment or you can resist and insist everyone else is the problem and have the benefit of feeling like everything is just fine as they go on with their day.

The internet has become a tool for people to find and interact with like minded people. I've always been interested in where this would lead. The problem of course with this relatively new medium of communication that makes it much much easier for a person with a exceedingly distorted perception of reality to remain "certain" of their views as they can then align with greater and greater numbers of people who suffer from the same problem. There is an old maxim in cult behavior "when more people that believe what you believe, the more right you become". This is why that in a somewhat perverse way, its also important to challenge those people, to speak up and to marginalize them to the greatest extent possible.

In this respect, you are doing the world a great service
Crush them every chance you get. Not because its the nice thing to do. But because its for the greater good.
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wehateporn solving the great injustices of the world one youtube viewing at a time.

great work and thanks for your last post ever on the subject
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You people simply are insane.
What fucking planet do you live on?
These comments have nothing to do with anything

Provide one single shred of evidence or proof of your claims
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Less than 40% of the members of this board believe the government's account of 9/11.

Don't think so?

Then go ahead and create yet ANOTHER 9/11 poll, and see for yourselves.

NOTHING about the "official" 9/11 report adds up.

I feel bad for those who blindly believe the lies, and refuse to question ANY of the absurdities of that event.
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Provide one single shred of evidence or proof of your claims


Poor guy. Unbelievable.
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NOTHING about the "official" 9/11 report adds up.
An over generalization which can't possibly be true. The absurdity highlighted ironically with all capitals.

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I feel bad for those who blindly believe the lies,
Translation:

"If you don't agree with my world view and my interpretations and perceptions, then you are "blind" and "ignorant" to what I and those like me, consider to be glaringly obvious" (believing the "lies" - i.e. "sheep"/"brainwashed" as they love to say)

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and refuse to question ANY of the absurdities of that event.
The age old trick of re-framing all opposing views in a deceptive manner for the sole purpose of calling attention to an imaginary and easily winnable argument which never existed. No one ever said "i believe everything told to me"
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People simply take an authority figure's word for it, whether their is proof or not just because they are in a position of power.

Yet they blatantly disregard government secrets and the shady history of the government
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I heard bigfoot was involved. Real talk
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People simply take an authority figure's word for it, whether their is proof or not just because they are in a position of power.

Yet they blatantly disregard government secrets and the shady history of the government
Which people? All people?

Who is it disregarding government secrets or the fact that secrets exist or that governments have shady histories?

Are all people here unaware that governments do things in the dark?

I feel this is common knowledge - yet you act as if it isn't. Isn't it common knowledge that governments do secret things and lie?

Are we all unaware that the CIA doesn't file weekly update with the LA Times or keep an up to date blog on covert ops all over the world?


You see, you have to rely on broad generalizations and because specificity opens yourself up to arguments and ideas which challenge your view of things... not the other way around.

Believing and continually attempting to reinforce the idea that "everyone" does something is a device you use to make you feel comfortable about your views and its how you reconcile your world view and defend the misguided certainty of your interpretation of reality.

A wise person is full of doubt and constantly challenging his own views. Something you and yours are wholly incapable of doing.

By the way, it doesn't take Sigmund Freud to understand your issue is with authority in general.... not "the US government" or any specific entity.
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Anyone who believes the official 9/11 story is either mentally ill or heavily under propaganda

No one has any idea what happened except for the people who planned it and had it carried out. Everything else is just propaganda. If the United States government came out and said Iran did it, then everyone would believe that. However looking at their past history and what's been admitted and carried out, there should be no surprise if the CIA or black ops was involved.

To come out and call anyone a conspiracy theorist who questions the official story, shows how much someone can be propagandized but a person or people in positions of power
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Anyone who believes the official 9/11 story is either mentally ill or heavily under propaganda

No one has any idea what happened except for the people who planned it and had it carried out. Everything else is just propaganda. If the United States government came out and said Iran did it, then everyone would believe that. However looking at their past history and what's been admitted and carried out, there should be no surprise if the CIA or black ops was involved.

To come out and call anyone a conspiracy theorist who questions the official story, shows how much someone can be propagandized but a person or people in positions of power
I doubt anyone really knows what happened that day - Even the people that carried it out - There are just theories - You can only act on the theory you believe is closest to the truth.

We are all just conspiracy theorists...
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Their biggest fuck-up was Building 7. It seems like it was a manpower issue or they would have brought it down right after the twin towers were demo'd, before the dust settled. The scary thing is how obvious that demo was and yet they got away with it.
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