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Jel 06-30-2013 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by theking (Post 19693900)
I would care to the point that I would at the least attempt to have them prosecuted and at the most I would personally attempt to put a stop to it

BTW...I just was made aware that you live in the UK and I do not know what may be applicable to the UK..
Ok, but what I can't understand is how you don't care that the gov't do so? I can understand the not being able to really do too much about it, directly, but to not even care? Like I've already said, each to their own, and far be it from me to try to make anyone change their minds on it, I just don't get it. Which, I suppose, is ok lol, not like I *have* to get it to make it right for you to regard it as such :upsidedow

The UK thing - for the purposes of caring or not about privacy, that doesn't matter - I'm just using the whole govt can do it etc, not specifically which gov'ts can do which specific things (currently) :thumbsup

theking 06-30-2013 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19693906)
Ok, you specifically said, that a bunch of companies have a record of all my phone calls, and all my bank statements, just like the gov't has, on account of them buying/selling data, to the tune of pretty much 100% of what I consider private. Which is way different to the above quote, which I already knew, on account of not being a complete idiot (just a partial one :) )
No...I did not. This is what I specifically said.

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 19693866)
The answer is pretty much yes...businesses...exhange/buy/sell your data so they eventually have almost 100% of what you may consider to be private information.
Note "pretty much" and "almost 100%".

I did not realize that you live in the UK and that you are a troll...so you are now dismissed.

Jel 06-30-2013 05:25 PM
so you skimmed over my "to the tune of pretty much 100%", ok.

And lol whut? I'm a troll because I disagree with you? And politely at that... lol, you fucking pompous prick, do one.

bushwacker 06-30-2013 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19693934)
so you skimmed over my "to the tune of pretty much 100%", ok.

And lol whut? I'm a troll because I disagree with you? And politely at that... lol, you fucking pompous prick, do one.

Don't bother, he faked his death on a message board. That should tell you all you need to know. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

theking 06-30-2013 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 19693941)
Don't bother, he faked his death on a message board. That should tell you all you need to know. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
You of course cannot post proof because what you have stated is a lie...now isn't that the truth of the matter...sport.

MaDalton 06-30-2013 06:21 PM
google translate from a german article...

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A confidential classification makes apparent that the NSA considers Germany as a partner, but also as an attack target. Thus, Germany is among the "third-class partners." Specifically excluded from espionage attacks are only Canada, Australia, Britain and New Zealand. "We can attack the signals of most foreign partner third class - and do this," the NSA boasts in a presentation.
Germany = attack target? really?

http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/...d_1030562.html

Jel 06-30-2013 06:42 PM
'attack' as in snoop though, no? Rather than in the 'start a fight' use of the word I would have thought. I'd be surprised if that didn't also apply vice-versa.

dyna mo 06-30-2013 06:46 PM
it's going to be worse when any of those legislative bills pass that require transparency and access to the fisa court. then a lot more will be revealed.

this is going to be a tough one for obama and the executive branch. he's already on his heels over it.

MaDalton 06-30-2013 06:47 PM
i would be very surprised if the germans had bugged the white house...

but everyone knows anyways - "we come in peace" :winkwink:

http://www.gegenschnitt.de/wp-conten...ster_small.jpg

Grapesoda 06-30-2013 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19693455)
Something I've noticed is here in the US the media and govt have been very good at making this whole thing a Snowden issue. Just like with Manning.

There was very little discussion about if the US govt was acting badly. It's all about Snowden , Manning.. ect ect.

I just wanted to say as an American.. This shouldn't be about either of these two guys.. This is the US govt acting badly. This isn't a right or a left issue.. It's a issue of our govt being out of control.

That should be the real focus.. Not Manning or Snowden they are just the messengers.
haven't you noticed? the media sucks Obama's cock

crockett 07-01-2013 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19693975)
google translate from a german article...



Germany = attack target? really?

http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/...d_1030562.html

It appears every country on the planet is a attack country aside from a limited few. Canada, Austria, New Zealand and a couple others.
Germany is considered a 3rd tier on our friends list it seems and as such is considered open target.

Guess them folks in Washington are still worried about the Nazis...

crockett 07-01-2013 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19694014)
haven't you noticed? the media sucks Obama's cock
They did the same with Bush hence the reason they went along all goo goo eyed withe the war in Iraq, no questions asked.


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