and antartica:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestay...nother-record/

Antarctic sea ice set another record this past week, with the most amount of ice ever recorded on day 256 of the calendar year (September 12 of this leap year).
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2...idc-is-silent/

the data is there for those that choose to look. why so many choose not to is a big part of the world's problem.

Let's see.

My info came from NASA, and I linked to it in my post.

Your image and your argument is coming from Dailymail. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...82_640x365.jpg

But besides that, the DailyMail's description of the image you posted leaves out alot. Ice sheets grow and shrink as the seasons change. What is different and what is significant, is the amount of time each year that the water remains frozen.

Anyway, never mind. There are scientists doing real study and real work on this. If you're going to choose to believe an industry that has an interest in selling pollution-rich energy to you instead of scientists telling you to seek alternatives, then there's nothing much anyone can do for you. Remember your decision the next time temperatures hit new record highs, or you see yet another kid with an inhaler, or both.

dear child, here amongst the intelligent, we understand that we've had a pollution problem. Here in the US, we've cleaned up the environment pretty well since the 70s. What the intelligent don't do is confuse chemical pollution with the false idea of CO2 pollution.
children often run around half cocked and uniformed demanding SOMETHING be done. Hell, some children go out and buy an electric car, imagining that they're somehow better for the environment than a modern gasoline driven vehicle. These kids are clueless but it doesn't stop them from embarrassing themselves in front of adults who know better.

Peace.

yes child, the picture must be fake. your lack of an intelligent argument is stunning

She was 15 years old. :2 cents:

here's NASA's same take on polar ice for the slow kids:
http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/.../#.U3yzPhYsr8s

"""This year's sea ice extent is substantially higher than last year's record low minimum. On Sept.16, 2012""""

looks like you posted proof of extreme climate change, which is the original definition before media dumbed it down to 'global warming'.

they are only parallel if you are high... are you high?

ahh, so you don't believe there is a massive global conspiracy to fool the world about climate change

i knew i could count on you! <3

I believe government is hiding something about attack. This makes some people believe they(people with real power) participated.

So in reality there are two groups.

GROUP A
Those who think we are contributing to climate change, and want to work on an more healthy enviroment.

GROUP B
Those who think we have nothing to do with climate change, and therefore want to do nothing, blaming all the initiatives above as government hidden taxes etc.

Maybe a cleaner world won't prevent a worse climate in the future. Maybe we are on the road to hell no matter what we do. It will save lives though, and it will be a more fun trip till the day we are here no more.


The Future World of Group A

http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/x/...cltxu0VAcP.jpg

http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-conte...ower-plant.jpg

http://i1.wp.com/cleantechnica.com/f..._Solar_450.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5-29a_qwGb...U/s1600/UQ.jpg

http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/.../vertical4.jpg

http://observers.france24.com/files/...0%20SS%202.jpg

http://llof.no/Portals/llof/bilder/windmill_blades.jpg


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Meanwhile in the Future of Group B...

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...eople--008.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...e-Nige-007.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...18_634x420.jpg

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/...ec-555x370.jpg

http://media.treehugger.com/assets/i...oil-spills.jpg

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/oil-spill-thailand-2.jpg

no, in reality things are never black and white.

no child, actually it was called global warming until even THEY couldn't say it with a straight face so they changed it to climate change so they can look at you every summer and say,"look how hot its getting" and then in the winter say to you,"look how cold its getting" and our least intelligent eat it up as fact

When you consider the outcome of 911 is that the government now records every email, every phone call (land line and cell) and every internet site you go to.....It seems The NSA had a lot to gain. I think theres A LOT the government isnt telling us

12clicks!

look at your group!

Complete over-simplification, there are in reality many more groups than that. Let's start with C

GROUP C
Those who accept that humans have a miniscule impact on the Climate, they aren't pleased about this as they care about the environment, but they realize that paying Carbon taxes is not a solution and is an obvious false pretext. :2 cents:

trust me, my group isn't listed there.
:thumbsup

The bottom line for Republicans is that they want to deny climate change because doing anything about it will mean more of their precious earnings going to taxes for government sanctioned initiatives to curtail the problem. Their entire existence is based on making as much money as possible and they could give a shit if anyone's children(even their own) have to live in a more fucked up world.

But anyway, it doesn't matter what we do. China and India are about to go apeshit with carbon emissions because they're where we were decades back. Everyone wants their own car, and there's millions more of them than us -- and they don't give two shits about the environment.

it seems that your hatred of your betters has you confused. You need to take a shot at them even though you understand that nothing we do will change anything because of india and china.
well done

Someone who denies something that has a scientific consensus is not my "better". That person is a fucking idiot.

So in conclusion, dense 12clicks doesn't think co2 has any effect on earth. So it is all one big conspiracy to lie to the people about this - co2 is perfectly healthy, people in china who are walking through the fog with mouth caps coughing their lungs out are exaggerating, there is nothing wrong.

why don't you step out of your parents basement, go to their garage, close the garage door and start your dads car, wait a bit and you'll see how healthy co2 is to nature.

no, someone who imagines there's a scientific consensus reached in a few years that explains the changes in climate over 3 billion years by taking a 20 year snapshot is a fucking idiot.

dear child, the poisonous gas you're referring to is CO, not CO2.
You see idiot, here amongst the intelligent, we understand the world around us and engage in intelligent conversations. You're a part of society's bottom because you don't and can't.

I hate to break it to everybody but explosions emit sound 100% of the time and to bring down WTC that is an absolutely huge building you need literally thousands of individual explosions timed exactly right...basically all within a few milliseconds of one another...

there were, literally 10.000s of people in the direct vicinity and nobody heard 1000s of little explosions...so get over it...

also...the planes hitting the buildings in the first place was enough to hurt fragile fragile american egos...face it: 3000 people is not a lot...one out of five deaths in the USA is from smoking tobacco this is like 100.000s every year and nobody blinks and eye...2-3 buildings and a few planes are nothing to the USA...it simply did not matter to go to the effort of bringing the buildings down...it would be a logistical NIGHTMARE to work secretly around 1000s of people for what exactly? ...

the main thing that got hurt on 9/11 is american pride and sense of invulnerability...wars are ok when they are on the other side of the globe and US bombs be droppin' but anything at all in the USA is something americans thought they were immune to...they get ass raped by the military budget and expect something in return: invulnerability LOL ...the security provided obviously failed and somebody had to be blamed so they invaded iraq that had nothing at all to do with 9/11 but it made the hurt pride better and their FEAR of what their army does to others, happening to them, less...

there was no controlled demolition because 95% of all americans do not really give 2 shits about the 3000 dead or the WTC buildings but they need to feel safe...do you have national "100.000s of dead from tobacco day?" no? well quit pretending like 3000 makes a shits difference if you did not know them personally...

9/11 day in reality is "americans shit their pants and that made them sad and angry" day...not really trying to troll just pointing out the comedy when a society keeps 2million of its own in prison but pretends 3000 is "bleeding heart day" I just have to notice the disproportion...

there was no controlled demolition...

dear has been, point is you know what I mean obviously. And you don't deny the arguments, instead you tell yourself you are intelligent. Sounds like you've listened to too many self help tapes, but subconsciously you know you are just a simple minded fool. It's laughable to watch actually... keep entertaining me, dance puppet, dance :1orglaugh