technical explanation and some common sense:

tech-
Jus Soli. "Right of the land." Anybody born in the U.S. is a natural born citizen, with a clear right to be president.

Lex Soli. "Law of the land." People who acquire their citizenship through naturalization, such as Arnold Schwarzenegger. Experts agrees that these citizens are not "natural-born," and do not have the right to be president.

Jus Sanguinis. "Right of blood." Anybody born outside the U.S. to U.S. citizens has right to U.S. citizenship.

common sense-
a child born to U.S. citizens on a U.S. military base while his father was on active military service is eligible for the presidency.

Exactly - And I think this goes on a lot. This is exactly what politics is - trying to influence the opinion of millions of voters and the stakes couldn't be any higher.

And this what Benghazi was, nothing more than an attempt to make Hillary look bad. And it back fired in a huge way.

Fun Fact :

Just questioning John McCains birthplace was enough to have Dynamo call people "fucking stupid" 7 times in this thread, call someone's life "fucking dreary", and tell someone else to go fuck themselves.

Your Tea Party is showing, Dyna.

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John McCain’s father was an admiral in the U.S. Navy who was stationed in Panama in 1936, when McCain was born. This has led to speculation as to whether McCain is a U.S. citizen and whether he can be elected president, a question that was raised during McCain’s run for the Republican nomination in 2000 as well.
Section 1, Article II of the U.S. Constitution states:
Article II: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

But McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country’s borders, since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790:
Congress: “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.”

US law is more or less, if you have a baby on US soil, no matter where the parents are from, legal or not, that baby is a US citizen. That is why people pour into the USA, usually while pregnant. They play the long game for their families and people. People come from all over the world to have babies in the USA. I personally know a few couples who have done this to take advantage of dual citizenship and a passport that gets them into more countries than their own.

Americans vote in Puerto Rico Federal voting rights in Puerto Rico but they are not full citizens -- only states can send delegates to the Electoral College and elect the President.

The McCain issue seems cut and dry, US servicemen that are citizens of states and registered voters can vote absentee as they are full citizens and their votes count.

I think on "American soil" would only apply to people born here of immigrant parentage of one or both parents. That is Natural born -- on American soil and not naturalized citizens ... Section 8 of the US Constitution gives the Congress powers to enact laws of Naturalization of person to become a Naturalized US citizens so the meaning of natural is apparent.

A child of two US citizens would meet the requirements to become President as to birth until SCOTUS says differently. When the parents of the child are both US citizens, American soil has no bearing.

Yes, it is usual possible to get citizenship for your child by birthplace, but that was not the issue in here. The issue in hand is that some country's citizen (mom) gives birth abroad. Usually the child gets the mom's nationality by birth, and in this case maybe some other country's too, by birth also.

Well, you are always sure who the child's mother is ...

According to Natural born citizen | Wex Legal Dictionary / Encyclopedia | LII / Legal Information Institute

"Consensus exists that anyone born on U.S. soil is a "natural born Citizen." One may also be a "natural born Citizen" if, despite a birth on foreign soil, U.S. citizenship immediately passes from the person's parents."


Section 5 of the 14th Amendment says:

"The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article"


Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 of the US Constitution says that Congress has authority to create law regarding naturalization which includes citizenship.

So who can be considered a natural born citizen is kind of vague, legally speaking. Congress says, under Title 8 of the US Code, Section 1401 defines natural born citizens as:

"Anyone born inside the United States. The person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. (This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.)

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)"

(source : Defining "Natural Born Citizen" | IVN.us)

Chances are, McCain is easily eligible to be president.

Wrong yet again dumbfuck. I couldn't give 2 shits where that fuck was born.

But thanks again for showing that you can't read good.

Wannabe trolls get trolled. Like I do with you.

I am of the opinion that if you have to be naturalized then you are not natural born.

a natural born citizen and not a naturalized citizen, would have been much clearer wording (contract law 101-- make sure it's always clear to the court) ...

What the fuck is going on with all the fucking meltdowns in here lately?













FUCK!

let me correct you on this one as a Puerto Rican. There is no such thing as Puerto Rican citizenship we have none we went from spain colony to USA colony so before we were spanish and now we are born US citizens. Legally there is no Puerto Rico citizenship unless we decide to become a republic.

the rest of your statement is correct :)

what you think is a meltdown is nothing more than picking up the dogshit in the backyard.

if you were a gas, you'd be inert.

Wow at the armchair lawyers. It's funny either way the true lies (no pun).

Like I said.....

BORN IN PANAMA.

When he ran for President it wasn't much of an issue - No one really questioned it.

As a Puerto Rican.... Can you run for President?

Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States. If you are born a US citizen, I would guess yes.

Of Course Not! He is a Caucasian and a war hero, why question him being born on foreign soil?

Now if he was not what he is they might have spent time looking into his place of birth.

Let us not forget Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico which kept him, George Romney, out of the white house. It was not on a military base either.

:1orglaugh

the funny part of this (and the truly sad part) is you couldn't point to the group of noble gases on the periodic chart even if your afternoon sippy cup depended on it.

The legal requirements for qualification to run for President and Senator are very different. I suppose that's irrelevant to anyone who doesn't have a brain and is making tons of associations and wrong assumptions as the basis for an argument to begin with.

Having a President that may not be a natural born citizen and therefore lied, falsified documents, covered it up (allegedly) etc has nothing to do with a Senator born on a military base, out of the country, still fully 100% illegible to run for Senator.

No wonder this industry is full of people whining that its over. Some of you tards are lucky to even happen to manage to feed yourself or tie your own shoes in the morning... much less run a simple business that requires little more than basic html and only a 1/2 assed attempt at actually working.

"Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution sets three qualifications for senators: 1) they must be at least 30 years old, 2) they must have been citizens of the United States for at least the past 9 years, and 3) they must be inhabitants of the states they seek to represent at the time of their election."

Idiots...

"Initially a front runner for the Republican nomination for President of the United States in 1968, he proved an ineffective campaigner and fell behind Richard Nixon in polls."

Wikipedia. Lookslike he lost the vote versus was not allowed to run.

McCain ran for president so he had to meet both senator and presidential qualifications or his running would be a mute point.

you really are this fucking stupid.

And its been made clear to you by dyna_mo in his own quaint and charming way that he fully meets those qualifications and why. There was never a mystery as to the birth country of McCain or the legal status of that birth.

Hmm let's see... Argon, Neon, helium, Xenon, are just a few. Clearly you've ingested too much Radon because no one could become such an asshole without living in a radon-filled shithole. Oh, krypton is one too, and not just the planet that Superman came from.

Again, you act like a know-it all, when you know sweet fuck all. You trash everyone from your mommies basement because you hate your life. Just go lay down little man, before your brain explodes from trying too hard to matter.

Too bad your unknowned mother did not swallow :2 cents:

Threads like this make me think that GFY, for all intent and purpose, is for retards.

His mother was American so he is American. The rule is that he has to American at birth to be president.

PS blocked Dynamo yesterday

Agreed so why did you bring up the Senator stuff?

you forgot FART !

He is of that family of gas ....

There you have it from the Big Guy himself.

says the guy amazed and astounded by a magnet going around in a circle like a choo choo train going around a christmas tree on christmas morning.


and you say this while you continue to show your inability to read, I mentioned earlier (and elsewhere) I speak on topics that interest me and therefor I've enjoyed learning about. I don't with topics I don't know or am not interested in, you won't see me going on about micheal bay movies, for instance. I leave that to the age group those movies are targeted to, 12 year olds.

just like **********, you are so far over your head here you can only resort to bringing my mother into it.


if you are going to make it personal, try and keep it to me and not my mother. I know you are a child, but still, this is an adult message board.

no fucking shit1! :1orglaugh

the pussification of gfy is absolutely amazing to me.

Yea but they get page views and generate revenue from ads. That is all that really matters here.

too bad, else you would have learned it is moot, not mute.

but you really are that fucking stupid.

I would have to agree with you.

But do not ever put a Bro in his place, they just do not tolerate Bro Abuse. :1orglaugh

the thing that flies right over **********'s head and the other completely stupid dimwits is that my being in a convo with them is what makes me appear smart. I've never claimed to be smart, yet, posting/debating with the dimwitted makes me appear smart to them.

IN fact, as they point out, my chatting about simple concepts and other topics where facts are not only self-evident, it's assumed the people with common sense are familiar with them, makes me appear like a know-it-all to the **********s of the dolt world.

it's kind of embarrassing actually, I have to admit, I've only recently come to grips with how truly stupid ********** is. I had thought it was an act, like rochard.