I just did some research: turns out that American military bases are NOT considered "U.S. Soil," unlike embassies and consulates (which are). Learn something new every day! I retract my previous erroneous statement about the base he was born on. Turns out he was NOT born in the U.S. after all.

Yup, I read that somewhere too. This is why I guess that legally speaking this is a bit of a messy situation.

You really are this fucking stupid.

Wah wah.

You clearly have disdain for anyone with a conflicting opinion to that of your own. Just letting you know everytime I see your posts you sound ignorant, angry, and utterly without humility.

You also spend a lot of time on this board.

But go drink some more beers and party at the clubz you clever clever rock star you ;)

Based on your own laws quoted in here, that is irrelevant thing, as he is US citizen by birth.

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States. "


" Congress says, under Title 8 of the US Code, Section 1401 defines natural born citizens as:

"Anyone born inside the United States. The person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. (This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.)

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national"


Is it just my baad Engliskhko, or is it you guys, or what is the problem in here?

EDIT: Based on Wikipedia that quoted law about citizenship came as a law a year after McCain's birth, and he was made as a citizen ex post facto. So the argue has not been about the law per se, just that he did birth before that law. But as he got citizenship ex post facto, there is no fucking problem.

Does it even matter that much in the end?

Sissy fight

slap slap slappity slap slap

Of course it matters; those republican bastards, or democrat bastards, or to whatever party the McCain belongs to. Did I already say bastards?

oh look, another drive-by wannabe troll that's got lingering butthurt over my being able to form an opinion and articulate it.

I'm stoked you are interested in me and my posts here so much you've made an internet psych profile of dyna mo at teh gfy but you are just as fucking stupid as the other 3 stooges in this thread if that's your conclusion. Next time you might want to get a better idea of wtf is up

I also LOLZ at dimwit gfyers who make judgement calls on the right amount of posts to make here. FYI brainiac- YOU post here too and someone somewhere is pointing their finger at you for it too. dumbfuck.

according to natural born clause we could.

however

Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, and they can participate in the major political parties' nominating processes. They cannot, however, vote in presidential elections.

Can a Puerto Rican be president? Justice Breyer speculates - CBS News

so i am guessing that a Puerto Rican would have to be established in one of the 50 states to be able to do so because the island would not be able to vote for him

the funny part of your post? it's the fact that you feel compelled to post a negative off-topic pointless and worthless post about how negative you've concluded I am.

You know how fucking stupid that is right?

Oh, right, you do not.

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I didn't know this.... How interesting.

Puerto Ricans are US citizens? I didn't know this. I don't know much about Puerto Rico itself.

Seems there are other islands with similar status, including Northern Mariana Islands. I had no idea.

The first one. The question is if he was born in America (see topic). And, according to law, no, he was not.

Their votes do not count in Congress (although they do send delegates). Also, interestingly, they receive aid (welfare, etc) without the burden of paying federal taxes.

My baad Englisko also sees that this birth issue got linked to the presidency issue, and not just being some trivial knowledge about McCain. Against that background that "Born in America" question is not the right question.

It doesn't matter whether he did born in America or not. It is the citizenship (by birth) that matters.

Not by me. I ignored that part of the thread.

good idea trying to reply for your dimwitted colleague. if y'all wannabe trolls teamed up and put your dim wits together you could maybe come up with a cogent thought.

You must have a lot of pain, deep down inside. That's too bad. Good luck to you - I hope whatever hurt you so bad is way in the past by now.

You seem to miss the point. Obama was born in the US yet there was all of this fake drama by Vendzilla and the rest of the birthers. Yet McCain was the one not born in the US.

It's called Irony.

Our past long time president (12 years, not my favourite) shows her deep concern regarding your situation. :)


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Ted Cruz meets that? I thought his dad was a foreigner?

There are these ones too:

""Anyone born inside the United States. The person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. (This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.)"

"Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national"

Although I don't quite know what is the difference between US national and citizen.

In my country mother's nationality inherits, the father doesn't matter, unless he is the one with our citizenship and mother isn't.

Pretty funny how complicated it is.

The only way Obama was born in the states is if Kenya was one of "his 57 states". Maybe it was that "one left to go".

Who campaigns for president and never visits his home state? That alone proves he was not born in Hawaii.


"It is wonderful to be back in Oregon," Obama said. "Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it."

US politics seems to be dirty business. There seem to be all kind of rumours about opponents. I guess there is bunch of folks thinking those for living.

Based on Wikipedia, Obama's mother (white chick from Kansas) was in Hawaii February 2 1961 when he married Obama's father (both were studying in Hawaii), Obama got birth August 4 1961 in Hawaii, and his mother moved to Seattle in late August to study.

Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Doesn't make that much sense why Obama would have been born in Kenya.

as if weird conspiracy theories ever needed to make sense...

This was the craziest part of the whole theory. What was the point? Kenya's secret service picked a boy born in 1961 and started grooming him for President of the US. They got him into the Us and at some point into Harvard, The Sentate, etc. And they get what out of it? Or what made them think it would work or how? Did the CIA just do it as a joke? "Lets name this kid something hideous and see if we can do it." Totally the most insane thing I have ever heard and yet lots of normal seeiming people were on that band wagon.

Yep anyone who doesn't go to Hawaii during their champagne is clearly of foreign birth and hiding it. Logic...

Keep on quoting me. Now who is butthurt?

The psyche evaluation came after clicking your blog that used to be in your sig. Yes, just another average fucking d-bag. Fear the common cunt.

It's ok if my opinion hurts your feelings, but it comes after reading a lot of your negative wittle angry bro posts.

You could take twenty people and force them to read threads where you post in, and I'm certain the majority would confirm that your an angry little d-bag with a total lack of humility which as always.. Requires a large ego, and if we know anything about egos.. It's that dumb awful cunts who haven't evolved are usually sporting them.

keep up the good work bro. Enjoy your narrow point of view and your personal belief that you know it all :1orglaugh

Toots bitch.

Everything points to Obama being born in Hawaii, and there is not a shred of evidence that says otherwise. However, if you keep repeating a lie eventually the sheep accept it as truth.

I always wonder how do they think it happened, who did it and why? Kenya just wanted their guy in the White House? Do they think Obama knows about it? The whole idea is so crazy and yet sort of normal people get all worked up over it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Well said. Plus, with your permission, I may just use "toots bitch" myself should the need arise.

Cheers!