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AaronM 06-23-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20506002)
There was no "stomping on our Constitution" on my part. I simply stated a flag that represents a failed nation should not fly on government buildings.

I'm referring to other anti American posts of yours, not this thread. You know...The "gun control" type of posts where you advocate violating the very oath you are so proud of taking.

MrBottomTooth 06-23-2015 03:19 PM

I heard ebay might consider banning all sales with the flag in it as well. Silliness. Where am I going to buy my Dukes of Hazzard memorabilia now?

wehateporn 06-23-2015 03:20 PM

It's a lovely flag

ShowMe69 06-23-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20504904)
I don't think it should be outright banned, but do they really need to fly it from government buildings? Keep flying it on private property and on the top of sweet ass Chargers. I think this is what they did already in California, correct?

Ditto, I agree

EonBlue 06-24-2015 06:52 AM

Maybe also ban Old Glory as these fine fellows seem to wish for:

http://i.imgur.com/QsySLfI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1RL3cOC.jpg


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_Richard_ 06-24-2015 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20505723)
I think that the flag should come down from government buildings, because it symbolizes slavery.... however, you should read the 10th amendment, as well as the federalist papers, to see the clear right that states were granted, to secede from the union. Slavery is the most hideous crime on the planet, and I'm glad it was eradicated here.... (I wish it wasn't still sanctioned in so much of the world still...), however these are two separate issues.

There may be another time in the future when a state votes that they wish to secede from the union, (maybe New Hampshire), and they will, and should, have the right to do so without being invaded by federal troops.


:2 cents:

i thought only two states were allowed to secede without being invaded.. texas and another state..

SuckOnThis 06-24-2015 07:06 AM

Good to see neo-Nazis who don't even live in the US expressing their distorted Stormfront views of southern US history. Their own country would probably throw their ass in jail for displaying their Nazi flag so they cling to the next best thing, defending the Confederate flag.




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Grapesoda 06-24-2015 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20505789)

That court said state secession might be possible through consent of the States...which means all the other states have to agree...which is not going to happen obviously.[/COLOR][/B]

everything is for sale :2 cents:

Grapesoda 06-24-2015 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20505920)
Our First Amendment gives us freedom of speech. ANYBODY who voted to ban the flag is either not from America or they are like Rochard who is OK with stomping on our Constitution and God given rights as free people.

It blows my mind that anybody involved in the Adult Industry would ever support banning anything that has to do with free speech.

for libs the definition of free speech it "anything I agree with is free speech, all other thoughts MUST be banned"

Tom_PM 06-24-2015 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20506697)
for libs the definition of free speech it "anything I agree with is free speech, all other thoughts MUST be banned"

A moron says what?

_Richard_ 06-24-2015 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20506651)
Good to see neo-Nazis who don't even live in the US expressing their distorted Stormfront views of southern US history. Their own country would probably throw their ass in jail for displaying their Nazi flag so they cling to the next best thing, defending the Confederate flag.




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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20506697)
for libs the definition of free speech it "anything I agree with is free speech, all other thoughts MUST be banned"

damn those liberals and banning porn! oh wait.

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20506704)
A moron says what?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 06-24-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20506704)
A moron says what?

thank you for the perfect example of liberal though patterns... 'if you disagree with me, I'll belittle you in public" :thumbsup

Grapesoda 06-24-2015 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20506709)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



damn those liberals and banning porn! oh wait.



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

there is no parallel between a Nazi flag and a confederate battle flag ... do some research, there is obviously an internet connection at your place :2 cents:

SuckOnThis 06-24-2015 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20506718)
there is no parallel between a Nazi flag and a confederate battle flag ... do some research, there is obviously an internet connection at your place :2 cents:


Are you saying The Civil War wasnt about slavery or that enslaving 13 million people was much better than gassing 11 million?

2MuchMark 06-24-2015 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20504984)
banning something because of what some people believe it to symbolize? of course not.

that does sound very **********, directfiesta, good point.

but this is the USA.

if there were a good reason to make the flag illegal, i'd be all for it.

Dude, stop saying my name. I have nothing to say to you. If you want a good comeback, go lick your Mom's face.

dyna mo 06-24-2015 10:08 AM

gofuckyourself **********.

i was replying to one of my other followers with that post, he brought you into this, not me.

i understand why i have to spell that out for you. because you type shit like that while participating in my threads elsewhere.

more ********** logic

TheSquealer 06-24-2015 10:30 AM

Nice to see the concerned members of the original party of slavery stepping up to deal with the symbols of their horrific past.

Grapesoda 06-24-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20506734)
Are you saying The Civil War wasnt about slavery or that enslaving 13 million people was much better than gassing 11 million?

slavery was one factor leading to the cause of the civil war but not the only... do you think WWII was about jews? do think confederate soldiers went into battle screaming fuck n*ggers? or union soldiers screamed god save the blacks?

to break a civil war situation to such a simple statement, while fine for the common politicalized narrative, is hardly realistic... don't you think?

the Nazi flag symbolizes a political agenda and the policies of a political movement... have you ever heard of the Wehrmacht? Wehrmacht was and probably still is the German army with their own battle flags totally independent of the Nazi flags
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nkreuz.svg.png

St Andrews Cross or what is commonly mistaken for the confederate flag was a battle flag for the southern army/navy... and just as all battle standards do, the St Andrews Cross symbolizes honor, family and country... trust me on this one... there were no loud mouth politicians running to the flag in the fog of war... it was men just like you and, me trying desperately to save the lives of our friends and family...

to insist that the confederate battle flag is the flag symbolizing slavery is ... well just uneducated... by that analogy the marine corps flag and symbol are then flag and symbols of the United Sates.


my personal opinion is the battle flags being flown need to be lowered with honor and placed safely away somewhere ....

dyna mo 06-24-2015 11:11 AM

get down on your mother fucking knees.



TCLGirls 06-24-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20506837)
Nice to see the concerned members of the original party of slavery stepping up to deal with the symbols of their horrific past.


Better late than never.
:thumbsup

wehateporn 06-24-2015 11:32 AM

That war was never about slavery

dyna mo 06-24-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20506881)
That war was never about slavery

it was entirely about slavery. don't be daft(er).

SuckOnThis 06-24-2015 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20506861)
slavery was one factor leading to the cause of the civil war but not the only... do you think WWII was about jews? do think confederate soldiers went into battle screaming fuck n*ggers? or union soldiers screamed god save the blacks?

to break a civil war situation to such a simple statement, while fine for the common politicalized narrative, is hardly realistic... don't you think?

No, slavery was the MAIN factor that caused the southern states to secede which in turn created the war.

All one has to do is read the actual Declaration of Causes of Seceding States to know this. Which is an interesting read btw. Every state that filed this Declaration complained about the rest of the US bullying them over slavery in their Declaration.

Georgia:

The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.

Mississippi:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union.

South Carolina:

The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.

Texas:

Texas was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time.

Virginia:

The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight, having declared that the powers granted under the said Constitution were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression; and the Federal Government, having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern Slaveholding States.

The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States

Grapesoda 06-24-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20506897)
No, slavery was the MAIN factor that caused the southern states to secede which in turn created the war.



The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States

so confederate soldiers went into battle screaming fuck n*ggers? and union soldiers screamed god save the n*ggers? thanks for clearing that up for me :1orglaugh

TCLGirls 06-24-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20507133)
so confederate soldiers went into battle screaming fuck n*ggers? and union soldiers screamed god save the n*ggers? thanks for clearing that up for me :1orglaugh


When you have no cogent response, just makeup a strawman argument to save face.

SuckOnThis 06-24-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20507133)
so confederate soldiers went into battle screaming fuck n*ggers? and union soldiers screamed god save the n*ggers? thanks for clearing that up for me :1orglaugh


As usual your brilliance shines so bright it blinds me.

CDSmith 06-25-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20507144)

When you have no cogent response, just makeup a strawman argument to save face.

You new here? :eek7:evil-laug



By my count it's a slight majority of you who would favor a ban of the flag at public buildings.


Someone said Ebay is thinking of banning Confederate flag-related items as well. Not sure if true. Any word on what Wal-mart is doing? :D

SurfDog 06-26-2015 03:21 PM

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Good one. I agree


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