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wehateporn 06-24-2015 11:32 AM

That war was never about slavery

dyna mo 06-24-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20506881)
That war was never about slavery

it was entirely about slavery. don't be daft(er).

SuckOnThis 06-24-2015 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20506861)
slavery was one factor leading to the cause of the civil war but not the only... do you think WWII was about jews? do think confederate soldiers went into battle screaming fuck n*ggers? or union soldiers screamed god save the blacks?

to break a civil war situation to such a simple statement, while fine for the common politicalized narrative, is hardly realistic... don't you think?

No, slavery was the MAIN factor that caused the southern states to secede which in turn created the war.

All one has to do is read the actual Declaration of Causes of Seceding States to know this. Which is an interesting read btw. Every state that filed this Declaration complained about the rest of the US bullying them over slavery in their Declaration.

Georgia:

The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.

Mississippi:

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union.

South Carolina:

The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.

Texas:

Texas was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time.

Virginia:

The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight, having declared that the powers granted under the said Constitution were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression; and the Federal Government, having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern Slaveholding States.

The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States

Grapesoda 06-24-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20506897)
No, slavery was the MAIN factor that caused the southern states to secede which in turn created the war.



The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States

so confederate soldiers went into battle screaming fuck n*ggers? and union soldiers screamed god save the n*ggers? thanks for clearing that up for me :1orglaugh

TCLGirls 06-24-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20507133)
so confederate soldiers went into battle screaming fuck n*ggers? and union soldiers screamed god save the n*ggers? thanks for clearing that up for me :1orglaugh


When you have no cogent response, just makeup a strawman argument to save face.

SuckOnThis 06-24-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20507133)
so confederate soldiers went into battle screaming fuck n*ggers? and union soldiers screamed god save the n*ggers? thanks for clearing that up for me :1orglaugh


As usual your brilliance shines so bright it blinds me.

CDSmith 06-25-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20507144)

When you have no cogent response, just makeup a strawman argument to save face.

You new here? :eek7:evil-laug



By my count it's a slight majority of you who would favor a ban of the flag at public buildings.


Someone said Ebay is thinking of banning Confederate flag-related items as well. Not sure if true. Any word on what Wal-mart is doing? :D

SurfDog 06-26-2015 03:21 PM

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Good one. I agree


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