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Fetish Gimp 12-04-2017 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22098882)
I live in Europe.

Allow me to inform you, you have and already benefit from net neutrality :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22098873)
I don't have to adept, I made my fortune with porn before the industry decided to give it away. I'm retired.

Oh, so you literally have no clue whatsoever about what we're talking about. Got it :pimp

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22098882)
If the prices go too high, the suppliers lose customers. So you are protected. Making it too high for porn would close Tubes.

The free market has a habit of regulating prices according to demand.

That's when a free market truly exists, which in the case of broadband, as with electricity or gas, it doesn't.

If there are only one or two suppliers, as is in the case of the USA (a point I already made), then THERE'S NO FREE MARKET.

But that's okay Grandpa Simpson, keep bitching about how everything was better in the old days and how you wore an onion in your belt and screaming to kids to get off your lawn :winkwink:

JFK 12-04-2017 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozer (Post 22082142)
Explain? What was the opposite?

What was the question ? :helpme

The Porn Nerd 12-04-2017 02:17 PM

Fact: there IS no "free market". All markets are manipulated by those with enough power to do so. </argument>

Fact: If a corrupt Government is pushing for something no one but big business wants then guess what? You, the average person, will be butt-fucked without lube.

Throw in a little Trump and VOILA! The rich get richer.

(How anyone who is not a millionaire or higher could support Donald J. Trump is beyond my understanding.)

Helix 12-04-2017 02:41 PM

This only affect the states that voted Hillary ;)

Paul Markham 12-04-2017 02:46 PM

The market for porn is capable of selling 5 scenes at $50. So no worries for the industry. If people want to consume videos they will pay.

ADAPT OR DIE.

Fetish Gimp 12-04-2017 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22099728)
The market for porn is capable of selling 5 scenes at $50. So no worries for the industry. If people want to consume videos they will pay.

ADAPT OR DIE.

Listening to Paul give advice is like being taught to drive by a blind man :1orglaugh

Amusing in a pitiful, sad sort of way but worrisome that some ignorant soul might actually take him seriously, not knowing the depths of ignorance from which his delusions spring forth.

Paul Markham 12-05-2017 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp (Post 22100139)
Listening to Paul give advice is like being taught to drive by a blind man :1orglaugh

Amusing in a pitiful, sad sort of way but worrisome that some ignorant soul might actually take him seriously, not knowing the depths of ignorance from which his delusions spring forth.

Do you expect to pay for gas by the gallon or the same price no matter how much you consume?

Same goes for every other product you buy.

ADAPT OR DIE.

VRPdommy 12-05-2017 03:43 PM

In the US, only the cellular co's are allowed to meter usage.
Everyone else must offer a 'unlimited plan' even if they also offer metered plans, one plan has to be un-metered.

But the end of net neutrality is more about giving access to those that transmit high volumes of content to consumers a limit in the future.

So even if you do not currently have a lot of hits to your website or have a bunch of bandwidth getting to consumers, the future may have VR Content streaming, it might be hard for your customers to get that content without a bunch of lag unless you pay for higher volume access rates.

It's really about making money from the other side of the internet wire.
Content providers should be alarmed. If not, you just don't understand the motivation.

The next step for them is to make money from netflix, youtube, amazon prime and hulu.
If they get away with that, you are most likely the next on the list.
The cable co's bought all the movie houses (producers and holders) and netflix and prime decided to produce their own content. So this action is what they have left to make money on the competition they now have on their monopoly.

Bandwidth requirements always grow so, a cap on the line now may be acceptable, but we know it will grow larger and everyone will need to pay if they want their content unjittered and enjoyable to experience.

Think 4K and VR streams.

Many of those in the US do not have a understanding of those in the EU where you can get free to air satellite broadcasts. And those in the EU need to be aware we do not have that in the US. We pay dearly for it. Just like cable tv.

The EU has a much better regulatory arm and has not allowed what has happened in the US to happen over there.

Paul Markham 12-05-2017 11:44 PM

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...1#post22102341

You get what you vote for.

The Porn Nerd 12-06-2017 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22101909)
In the US, only the cellular co's are allowed to meter usage.
Everyone else must offer a 'unlimited plan' even if they also offer metered plans, one plan has to be un-metered.

But the end of net neutrality is more about giving access to those that transmit high volumes of content to consumers a limit in the future.

So even if you do not currently have a lot of hits to your website or have a bunch of bandwidth getting to consumers, the future may have VR Content streaming, it might be hard for your customers to get that content without a bunch of lag unless you pay for higher volume access rates.

It's really about making money from the other side of the internet wire.
Content providers should be alarmed. If not, you just don't understand the motivation.

The next step for them is to make money from netflix, youtube, amazon prime and hulu.
If they get away with that, you are most likely the next on the list.
The cable co's bought all the movie houses (producers and holders) and netflix and prime decided to produce their own content. So this action is what they have left to make money on the competition they now have on their monopoly.

Bandwidth requirements always grow so, a cap on the line now may be acceptable, but we know it will grow larger and everyone will need to pay if they want their content unjittered and enjoyable to experience.

Think 4K and VR streams.

Many of those in the US do not have a understanding of those in the EU where you can get free to air satellite broadcasts. And those in the EU need to be aware we do not have that in the US. We pay dearly for it. Just like cable tv.

The EU has a much better regulatory arm and has not allowed what has happened in the US to happen over there.

Makes me want to move to Europe.
But this will affect Europeans too because if America farts the whole world stinks.

VRPdommy 12-06-2017 06:56 PM

The plot thickens ... It's even worse

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...y-rules-3.html

VRPdommy 12-09-2017 01:57 AM

FCC's claim that broadband investment has dropped is flawed - Business Insider

Paul Markham 12-09-2017 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22108227)

The free market is based on the principle that suppliers price their goods/services at a price they feel fit to sell for. Net Neutrality works on the opposite principle.

The regulating effect is from customers. How much is too much where the loss of customers makes any hike prices unprofitable?

People who now want to download/distribute videos and games will have to pay more or go offline.

The effect on sites like Youtube, Pornhub, Gaming sites, etc will be interesting. Too high a price and they will disappear. Making a price hike lead to losing money. No one on the consumer side is forced into buying a product/service they can't afford or don't think is worth it.


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