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boneprone 05-08-2003 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
i would rather you skipped the drugs. your business life will change because of it.

whatch what it does to your creativity instinct.

NOt true at all.

People who are bipolar will find they can only work during certain times only depending on where there balance is at the givin moment. Many times they will find they cant work even when they want to simply becasue of this unbalance. The whole day can go by and nothing will be done simply becasue of the chemical state of mind.

If treated a balance will be maintained. He will be able to work when and as he pleases. NOt when his chemial frame of mind allows him to.

MrPopup 05-08-2003 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by Ampiezza


no dude.... it's not a joke. There's nothing funny about what's happened here in this house in the last 24 hours. And I do need to fix it.... I'm totally out of control.

When my girl was throwing suitcases in her car last night and hauling ass.... I dropped her cell phone into the garbage disposal and put it on Mulch. Then I threw a garbage can at her car as she was driving away.

Yeah.... I need to be fixed dude.

dude. no dude. no way dude.

you fixed her cell phone problem.

dude.

media 05-08-2003 01:22 AM

Amp, get some Zoloft, get into some therapy.. learn some ways to take better care of yourself with this shit.. It CAN kill you, or someone else..

I would goto your doctor tomorrow and get some meds, it takes a couple weeks to build up a good level in your blood, so now is the time to start if you really want to kick dealing with your life into gear..

Alot of people think "ahh fuck that Im not gonna take some bullshit drug" but some people need it.. I took anti-depressants for years man.. was institutionalized 3 times.. and I've learned so much along the way that I can manage to get by now without them.. but it just takes steps.. sometimes baby steps.. the key is to not give up.. take the fucking advice man..

Ive been there and I know what you feel..

Media

boneprone 05-08-2003 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514


I don't take Ritalin. I don't take any drugs for my ADHD. But I might in the future. And if I were to take Ritalin or something similar, it would be for my own benefit and not to please others.

ADHD has many negative effects on me and my private life. ADHD does nothing but inhibit my productivity, amongst other things.

These two conditions of what you have and amp show similar traits, but physiologically they are very different, and treated differently as well.

X37375787 05-08-2003 01:23 AM

I smell a Boneprone stunt.

MrPopup 05-08-2003 01:23 AM

cant wait to see the difference between your work now and post-mind-control.

MrPopup 05-08-2003 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by Equinox
I smell a Boneprone stunt.
every one of em is. quality control is going way down. especially when even i can figure the shit out.

psyko514 05-08-2003 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by boneprone


These two conditions of what you have and amp show similar traits, but physiologically they are very different, and treated differently as well.

I'm well aware of that. I'm not manic depressive. I was just surprised to see that so many ADHD traits were also bi-polar traits.

Ampiezza 05-08-2003 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
cant wait to see the difference between your work now and post-mind-control.
I'm sorry you seem to think that getting help for this is a bad thing... but I don't have a choice. I'm rapidly self-destructing here, and if I don't fix what's wrong with me, there sin't going to BE any work to notice a difference. Don't you understand? This is not a game for me. My fucking life is a wreck because of this shit.

PersianKitty 05-08-2003 01:27 AM

Fiddy

The woman my ex took up with is Bi-polar among other things. She had so many different docs convince she had so many different maladies that needed drug therapy that when she was on her downside, she'd just pop prescription meds and sleep 24/7. She couldn't even take care of her daughter let alone hold down a job. At least that's how things were 4-5 years ago when my son was dating her daughter (prior to her messing with my ex).

RedShoe 05-08-2003 01:29 AM

Are you going to to stick it out in Maui for a while? Remember all this shit just happened.

Take a few days to calm down. Clean up the mess (you must have made of the house). Chill for a day or two.

Just think about it before you make any descisions.

Ampiezza 05-08-2003 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by RedShoe
Are you going to to stick it out in Maui for a while? Remember all this shit just happened.

Take a few days to calm down. Clean up the mess (you must have made of the house). Chill for a day or two.

Just think about it before you make any descisions.

I am... I'm trying to back up a little and think as rationally as I possibly can before taking any major steps.

PersianKitty 05-08-2003 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514


I don't take Ritalin. I don't take any drugs for my ADHD. But I might in the future. And if I were to take Ritalin or something similar, it would be for my own benefit and not to please others.

ADHD has many negative effects on me and my private life. ADHD does nothing but inhibit my productivity, amongst other things.

My oldest was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 6 years old. He took ritalin (only during school) for many years until Adderall came out. The meds were the difference of night and day in his behavior at school. I've never medicated him outside of school or on weekends and summers because his ADHD primarily effected his ability to concentrate in school

Ampiezza 05-08-2003 01:33 AM

I got no one else to talk to, so I'm talking to you guys. GFY has pretty much been my extended insane family for two years now, so I guess this is as 'normal' as anything else.

I'm supposed to have a guest staying here, but I threw them out on the street last night.

Brujah 05-08-2003 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by Equinox
I smell a Boneprone stunt.
Sad isn't it. That someone might actually be telling the truth about something here or find themselves in some serious shit .. and no one take them seriously.

http://chetart.com/crywolf.jpg

PersianKitty 05-08-2003 01:33 AM

<pout> Boneprone deleted his post so I didn't get my 'fiddy'.

MrPopup 05-08-2003 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah


Sad isn't it. That someone might actually be telling the truth about something here or find themselves in some serious shit .. and no one take them seriously.

food for thought. you take this shit too seriously.

boneprone 05-08-2003 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by Ampiezza


I am... I'm trying to back up a little and think as rationally as I possibly can before taking any major steps.

Good.

Seek balance.
Once you find out the key to balance your life will never be the same again. This is easily treatable so long as you are willing and ready to accept the thearpy.

It may take a while to find out how to find this balance, testing and trial of many drugs to find the best one without side effects but its all trial and error man. YOu may get lucky and find that right med right away, or it may take ya a few months to find that perfect med.. Either way tough it out, be a man and do what it takes to get better.

The fact that you want to get better says a lot.

hybrid 05-08-2003 01:38 AM

Hehehe...haha...hoohee...muahahahaah!

Welcome to hell, man.

I was diagnosed with the same thing about 10 years ago. Been through about 20 different meds trying to find the right lego to click in place. Fuck the pharmaceutical solution.

Finally, had a horrible acid trip, entered the Nagul while studying shamanism and lost my self.

Why? I wanted to fix myself. Instead, I lost everything. Now, my mind crackles when I'm in a bright room, my senses slip into overdrive and I can center in on a dog barking miles away on a busy intersection and one pupil is sometimes twice the size of the other.

I was a boy genius, used to act very much like Labret in real life, and hated everything and everyone. Even though I was unhappy, I was a lot more content than I am now. At least then I had something.

Now I'm a fucking empty shell, devoid of any analytical skills and infected with Americitis.

Watch the fire you dance around.

And remember the duck.

Brujah 05-08-2003 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

food for thought. you take this shit too seriously.

If you only had a brain ...

theking 05-08-2003 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Ampiezza
I'm Manic-Depressive (Bipolar).


While some of you have no doubt seen this for a while now, sadly I did not. I honestly didn't really even know what bipolar was... but I do now. And it explains a helluva lot about the way I act and feel and think and the stupid shit I sometimes do.

Anyway... I took some basic tests today, and it's fully there in all it's ugly glory. "Circular Insanity". I don't know what's next, but I imagine it will involve Lithium.

Being made aware of this today, I can only look back on some of the stupid shit I've done, and come to understand why everyone must think I'm insane. Because it turns out that I am.

I'm fully on the depression downside of it right now. But at least now I know. Hopefully I can finally get some meds or something to end the madness that is in my head.

I haven't had a chance to read all of the other thread yet, I just got back.... but I will, and I'll contact some of you guys tomorrow. I appreciate all the offers to help from you guys.... I really do.

I don't know who you saw that provided a diagnosis of Bipolar Manic Depressive in a single visit but to make a definitive diagnosis of this import on a single visit is not the norm. None the less it is reasonably apparent that you do have a problem that requires professional guidance. Find someone competent and follow their advice to the T. As far as meds go...Boneprone is correct when he says that meds can correct what is basically a chemical iimbalance. There are various meds and what works for one may not work for another...in addition it takes time...sometimes a great deal of time to find the proper medication in the proper dosage. It is not as simple as popping a pill and all is better. There are going to be some bumps and you will have the urge to say fuck it and this is one thing that you should not do. Drinking is something that you should not do...period. Anyhow good luck too you.

boneprone 05-08-2003 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Hehehe...haha...hoohee...muahahahaah!

Welcome to hell, man.

I was diagnosed with the same thing about 10 years ago. Been through about 20 different meds trying to find the right lego to click in place. Fuck the pharmaceutical solution.

Finally, had a horrible acid trip, entered the Nagul while studying shamanism and lost my self.

Why? I wanted to fix myself. Instead, I lost everything. Now, my mind crackles when I'm in a bright room, my senses slip into overdrive and I can center in on a dog barking miles away on a busy intersection and one pupil is sometimes twice the size of the other.

I was a boy genius, used to act very much like Labret in real life, and hated everything and everyone. Even though I was unhappy, I was a lot more content than I am now. At least then I had something.

Now I'm a fucking empty shell, devoid of any analytical skills and infected with Americitis.

Watch the fire you dance around.

And remember the duck.

You seem like you would be diagnosed with both bi-polar and a form of psychotic unbalance?

Am I correct?
Sounds like u have two or more things cooking here.

Brujah 05-08-2003 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by theking

I don't know who you saw that provided a diagnosis of Bipolar Manic Depressive in a single visit but to make a dfinitive diagnosis of this import on a single visit is not the norm.

It was the experts at www.BiPolarTest.com or one of it's affiliate sites.

Mr Pheer 05-08-2003 01:46 AM

After reading this shit I figured out what wrong with my mom, she's bipolar to. And an alcoholic. She has all those symptoms that amp described.. high energy, talks too fuckin fast, doesnt sleep etc etc

She either super nice or a major fuckin bitch. Mostly a major bitch. Shes such a fuckin bitch that I cant stand to be around her.

SGS 05-08-2003 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
i would rather you skipped the drugs. your business life will change because of it.

whatch what it does to your creativity instinct.

A very good friend of ours has the bipolar condition and his life changed for the better as soon as he cut alcohol out of his life completely. It?s a bitch but alcohol and certain imbalances just don?t work together and you don?t need to be angry, hyper and aggressive to be creative and function properly in your work? If you look at these periods of great creativity just look around and you will see an equal amount of conflict and destruction at the same time.

Zero alcohol = Less medication in most cases with this.

Life is about balance, priorities and stability... Don't throw it all away just for a bottle of fucking beer. :2 cents:

goBigtime 05-08-2003 02:21 AM

Wheres Fletch.... this thread is screamin for a Jimi tune :)


http://member.nifty.ne.jp/prayer/polar%20bear.jpg

I know what I want but I just don't know how to go about gettin' it.

mule 05-08-2003 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
Wheres Fletch.... this thread is screamin for a Jimi tune :)


http://member.nifty.ne.jp/prayer/polar%20bear.jpg

That pic is tripolar, fool

goBigtime 05-08-2003 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by mule


That pic is tripolar, fool

too busy to open the chopshop.

Mutt 05-08-2003 02:29 AM

MrPopup you are a moron.

Manic depression is an illness, biochemical, go to Medline or a university medical library and read junior..........there are big words in the abstracts, go buy a medical dictionary so you won't get overwhelmed.

Then go do a search and find the famous people in history and those living with bipolar disorder today. It's not somebody being merely anxious or depressed or overwhelmed with the world he/she lives in.

Why do you think lithium works so miraculously on bipolar patients? Why doesn't lithium work the same way on clinically depressed or anxiety disorder patients? Or just overwhelmed people going through a rough patch in their lives? BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MANIC DEPRESSION/BIPOLAR DISORDER.

You are a looney tune, people suffer tremendously from manic depression, untreated the suicide rate is enormous. And you're worried that the drugs are going to rob AMP of his creativity, that it's some conspiracy by the big drug companies. You are a nitwit.

If Amp gets the diagnosis of manic depression confirmed he'll be good as new, maybe better cuz he's probably had it for awhile without being diagnosed.

It's more than being very happy or very sad. Read the description of what MANIA is.

theking 05-08-2003 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
MrPopup you are a moron.

Manic depression is an illness, biochemical, go to Medline or a university medical library and read junior..........there are big words in the abstracts, go buy a medical dictionary so you won't get overwhelmed.

Then go do a search and find the famous people in history and those living with bipolar disorder today. It's not somebody being merely anxious or depressed or overwhelmed with the world he/she lives in.

Why do you think lithium works so miraculously on bipolar patients? Why doesn't lithium work the same way on clinically depressed or anxiety disorder patients? Or just overwhelmed people going through a rough patch in their lives? BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MANIC DEPRESSION/BIPOLAR DISORDER.

You are a looney tune, people suffer tremendously from manic depression, untreated the suicide rate is enormous. And you're worried that the drugs are going to rob AMP of his creativity, that it's some conspiracy by the big drug companies. You are a nitwit.

If Amp gets the diagnosis of manic depression confirmed he'll be good as new, maybe better cuz he's probably had it for awhile without being diagnosed.

It's more than being very happy or very sad. Read the description of what MANIA is.

Good post...and true about MrPopup.

Mutt 05-08-2003 02:34 AM

Alcoholism goes with practically ever mental illness there is. Often an attempt by undiagnosed people to self-medicate themselves. A good percentage of alcoholics are manic depressive, anxiety disorder victims or clinically depressed, never diagnosed because they never seek help and everybody around them blames the alcohol and whatever else is going on in the person's life.

PersianKitty 05-08-2003 02:39 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
Wheres Fletch.... this thread is screamin for a Jimi tune :)


http://member.nifty.ne.jp/prayer/polar%20bear.jpg

I know what I want but I just don't know how to go about gettin' it.

haha.. pic by one of my favorite wildlife photogs.. Thomas Mangelsen. Think that one is called "Lazy Boys" from the Bad Boys of the Arctic series.

theking 05-08-2003 02:42 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Alcoholism goes with practically ever mental illness there is. Often an attempt by undiagnosed people to self-medicate themselves. A good percentage of alcoholics are manic depressive, anxiety disorder victims or clinically depressed, never diagnosed because they never seek help and everybody around them blames the alcohol and whatever else is going on in the person's life.
Once again a good post. Actually I am clinically depressed and I self medicate with alcohol...but I am physically fucked for life and suffer a great deal of pain...so I am clinically depressed with cause and if I consume enough alcohol it seems to relieve some of the pain and depression. I have prescribed medication for pain including morphine patches but I use the pain medication as little as possible and very, very rarely use the patches. I will reach a point where that may change.

Theo 05-08-2003 03:35 AM

i dont like the idea of drug treatment in such cases. At least not after a single doctor visit.....

Beastiepoo 05-08-2003 04:18 AM

Amp - I'm glad you seem to have figured out what is going on in your head. In a way it does make sense and like you yourself admit, the drinking wasn't helping. I hate the idea of needing to be medicated on a daily basis just to live a 'normal' life but we all gotta do what we gotta do. Myself, I've been taking one form of anti-histamine or decongestant almost every day for the last 20 years. I fucking HATE it but without them my life would be one long nose blowing session. I know my problem isn't in the same league as your mental stuff but I just want you to know that you aren't alone. There are millions of people in the world that live in a semi-medicated state. I'm not talking about junkies, but the normal everyday people who need some form of medication daily to keep themselves in the groove. I wish we could all make herbal medicines work but our bodies are too corrupted from years of chemicals.

I've rambled on long enough. If you are bi-polar, there are drugs out there that if taken on schedule can keep you from doing the extreme things you hate yourself for in the morning. Do what you have to do to get your life back dude. We love you and your talent is far too great to be lost to this chemical imbalance.

Liz

Theo 05-08-2003 04:23 AM

It's impossible in today's world to live and not have a health problem, any kind of it.

Let's kill some doctors for fun!

galleryseek 05-08-2003 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
It's impossible in today's world to live and not have a health problem, any kind of it.

Let's kill some doctors for fun!

alright. where to

Beastiepoo 05-08-2003 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
It's impossible in today's world to live and not have a health problem, any kind of it.
Amen. I've got no beef with technology. I'd hate to have to live the way they did even 100 years ago but with advance in technology comes the downsides. We have seriously fucked up the planet, and our bodies with the chemicals we use everyday. Don't get me wrong, I'm no hippie and I'll carry on driving my car and eating beef and liking it but in the back of my mind I wonder what we've done to ourselves.

It is absolutely correct to say that 100 years ago Amp woul just have been considered an eccentric artist. It is only now with all our overanalysing and medical breakthroughs that we find that people are 'sick'.

It seems a load of cow plop to me but I'm no doctor.

galleryseek 05-08-2003 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
It's impossible in today's world to live and not have a health problem, any kind of it.

yes.. very true... im only nearly 20 now... and i've always been a real healthy person.. but this winter.. holy fuck, everything has gone TO SHIT... gained a lactose intolerance, i was real sick cause of that for awhile.. then i got even more sick again from some other shit, then i just contracted something like mono / flu... fuck. sucks

Pete 05-08-2003 04:32 AM

I hope your feeling better soon Amp, I need you, you know that.


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