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PostWhore 06-11-2003 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
http://www.umich.edu/~iinet/cjs/film...s/sonatine.jpg

lol

Paul Markham 06-11-2003 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
I'd just take ePassporte and not really worry about it.
I wish more of my clients would go for that option.

Paul Markham 06-11-2003 10:29 PM

I would sack the programmers and start selling to all the magazines that started up.

IMO if Visa/MC pulled the plug like Amex did it would pull down 75% of the sites in this industry. The options would be dialer or phones and that would seriously effect business. It would remove a lot of the free porn, so those that survived would be very strong.

BluMedia 06-12-2003 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by crescentx
Do you have ICQ KimmyKim ? ICQ 92621328
KimmyKim did you have your back surgery yet?

FlyingIguana 06-12-2003 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by nobull


Adult sales is such a small part of visa's transactions, but yet is the source of very large problems... do not feel that the adult industry makes them a ton of money without headaches. They really could pull the plug tomorrow and not feel anything except less complaints and chargebacks.:2 cents:

what headaches?

customer buys a porn membership, spanks his monkey and splooges over his keyboard. calls visa and says 'i didn't make that transaction'. visa gives him his money back and grabs themselves a chargeback fee for their troubles.

visa has been ass fucking everyone in this industry for years.

Kimmykim 06-12-2003 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by BluMedia


KimmyKim did you have your back surgery yet?

Foot surgery actually -- just got my stitches out today.

And I apologize for not getting you an email out last week but it was the drugs really!

I am doing it now.

BluMedia 06-12-2003 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Foot surgery actually -- just got my stitches out today.

And I apologize for not getting you an email out last week but it was the drugs really!

I am doing it now.

Hey hope you are doing ok. Sorry I forgot it was foot surgery. Ok who had back surgery besides me? Crap I thought is was you.

m0rph3us 06-12-2003 08:08 PM

900, dialer, epassporte like system for mail in money order/checks, checks, SMS, US/CA @ home billing system ala AOL etc..

Rictor 06-12-2003 08:31 PM

New billing methods would be devised within a couple of days. We are a pioneer industry. We develop the technology and business ideas that the mainstream steals and markets 3 years later.

Bobby Fissure 06-12-2003 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
That would never happen! That's like asking "What if Visa and MC stopped processing for gambling sites?" Why even bother wondering, it won't happen.
Actually, why don't you try funding an account at a sportsbook with an American Visa card? Visa has been blocking such transactions for at least a year, maybe more. Gamblers just use Neteller or another type of 3rd party internet account. The adult business would follow the same route. The CC processors would die out, but the rest of the adult biz would remain largely unchanged.

KRL 06-12-2003 08:53 PM

Probably go start a humor video series and sell it to the right wing conservatives who won the battle.

WebmastersGoneUnder.com

Eroticacash 06-12-2003 09:00 PM

Id beable to Surf my sites and finally enjoy my own Porn!

TampaJim 06-12-2003 09:02 PM

Automatic bank withdrawals.

Raven 06-12-2003 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Eroticacash
Id be able to Surf my sites and finally enjoy my own Porn!
Yeah...me, too.

cash69 06-12-2003 09:07 PM

think about it.. all the people that sit in front of computers wacking it to porn.. gotta get off some where.. alot of them are sick in the head.. duno about you but id rather have those wacko's looking at a computer screen then going out and actually looking for a girl

tpi 06-12-2003 09:07 PM

id pull a tyler durden

Indeed 06-12-2003 09:13 PM

I guess if Visa and MC pull the plug, surfers will find another way to get their fix...

foe 06-12-2003 09:13 PM

nothign

Kimmykim 06-12-2003 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by Bobby Fissure


Actually, why don't you try funding an account at a sportsbook with an American Visa card? Visa has been blocking such transactions for at least a year, maybe more. Gamblers just use Neteller or another type of 3rd party internet account. The adult business would follow the same route. The CC processors would die out, but the rest of the adult biz would remain largely unchanged.


Interestingly enough, funding a sportsbook transaction (as an American) is in violation of more laws than gambling in a game like blackjack or poker.

May be some uproar if a certain company gets indicted on charges of facilitating these transactions.

Stay tuned, it's in the hands of the prosecutors.

fantasyman 06-12-2003 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by picindex
I would first max out all my Visa/MCs then file for Chapter 7 as a fuck you to them :)


Are you aware that our Federal Bankrupcy laws have just been modified. You can no longer get out of credit card debt by filing Chapter 7 - if you go Bankrupt now, you still need to pay off your credit card debt.

BluMedia 06-12-2003 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by fantasyman


Are you aware that our Federal Bankrupcy laws have just been modified. You can no longer get out of credit card debt by filing Chapter 7 - if you go Bankrupt now, you still need to pay off your credit card debt.

That is very true Fantasyman!

Cindyff 06-12-2003 10:00 PM

It wouldn't be the end of the world if they did, we already get over 10% of our members join by mail with checks or Cash and these checks don't bounce. I can foresee that increasing considerably. One thing is for sure Porn on the web is here to stay and Visa or Mastercard can either profit from it of GFY:321GFY

Cindy xx

Paul Markham 06-12-2003 10:57 PM

If no alternative was found so people can buy a months porno membership at $20 to $40 it would totally change the industry.

The dialer and 900 industry is based on a lot higher charges and it would mean surfers surfing for ten minutes and not two hours.

Even that would be very expensive. The emphasis on quality would go even lower than it is today. The need to retain would be non existant.

One of the biggest porn companies in the UK, went totally over to dialers because of the level of charge backs they weres suffering. This is because he sells a great tour and delivers crap behind it. He is making a fortune selling crap via dialers though.

lawked 06-12-2003 11:03 PM

If VISA and MC cancelled porn transactions, there would be so
many "other" companies affected the US economy would take another hit.

The success of the internet has been driven by porn :thumbsup
I don't think computer shops are filled because people need
to write reports.

Sure people can get around not having Visa/MC but that would
shake up a lot of people.

With 9% unemployment I don't think they should be thinking
of ways to fuck with the economy.

andi_germany 06-12-2003 11:26 PM

Simple solution hard to do:

Adult webmasters start buying stocks of any smaller CC company (card blache comes in mind or some company similar that has infrastructure in place already). When the adult webmasters together reach over 50 percent they force adult acceptance. Put a approved immideately link on your sites and let them sign up for that card. After pushing the card on adult sites you go to walmart and other companies and tell them look we got 1 million card holders and you don't accept our cards? I bet they will start accepting it pushing it even more.
I think many people would prever a card that can be used for everything and not some card that can't

pimplink 06-12-2003 11:46 PM

I would look up an old biz contact that pioneered an ALREADY AVAILABLE way of doing rebills without using credit cards.

Kimmykim 06-13-2003 01:11 AM

Sorry andi, 1 million is not really enough to form a platform outside of whats already there in the interchange system. The cost that you, as an issuer, would incur, in order to bring these merchants up to date on interchange software and hardware would take a few years of your profits in one swipe.


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