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12clicks 07-15-2003 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Thrawn$
Big daddy and UK are killing Black people in Africa with Aids, Ebola and Virus that kill only black people. Why would they go back to africa? Apartaid was only 10 years ago!
no, wait. I'm not done.
ahahahahahahahahahaha

son, you've got a very sad life ahead of you.
hopefully, you've got at least 4 yrs of highschool to complete. it may give you a chance.:1orglaugh

B Sandwich 07-15-2003 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


Culture is obviously not your forte....

Go get a Big Mack fat slob.:thumbsup

go eat a krispy kreme donut bitch

NetRodent 07-15-2003 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by juice
oh p.s. which other nations had slaves with proportions similar to the US?
Lets see a few off the top of my head...

Many parts of the British Empire until 1833.

Most Spanish ruled South America.

Russia until 1851.

Most of the Barbary Coast states up until the late 1800's.

Most pre-colonial african cultures.

Most of the "classical" ancient world.

Much of Europe pre 1400's.

Slavery is still legal and practiced in Mauritania and Sudan. http://www.iabolish.org/

directfiesta 07-15-2003 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


no, wait. I'm not done.
ahahahahahahahahahaha

son, you've got a very sad life ahead of you.
hopefully, you've got at least 4 yrs of highschool to complete. it may give you a chance.:1orglaugh

You are an old frustrated goat:

Quote:

R3K: Yeah sometimes you do sound hateful as hell :-)

12Clicks: It's not hate, its skepticism mixed with arrogance. When I disagree with someone, it's usually my experience based on his or her bullshit. After the 1000th battle of that type, I tend to get surly.


http://www.pornresource.com/article.php?aid=497
Even the interviewer says so. Get a life before you die.

HaHaHaJaHaHaHa....:321GFY

juice 07-15-2003 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


ahahahaha, another imbicile who knows nothing of world history outside of the liberal trash he reads about the bad US of A.:1orglaugh


is that the best you got??

hahahahha total imbecile hahahaha ahaha, I can't wait until school starts again! !???

Are you a bot?

Come up with some facts... and we shall talk further....

what's funny btw is you never directly respond to people's post... but keep having this monologue with yourself.... "you are a USA Hater, you are ignorant, go back to school...!' :1orglaugh

ADL Colin 07-15-2003 10:55 AM

A large military presence required in Iraq and another high price tag for a war make US involvement in North Korea unlikely. The US military is not real big on manpower and effectively a two theater war would be tough on active personnel. Also,a lot of smart-bomb munitions were used in Iraq that need to be replaced. I also don't think the US will use more of it's political capital in another war so close to the previous one. Major combat activities of the type that can be called a war are usually only fought once every decade or two.

12clicks 07-15-2003 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by juice



what's funny btw is you never directly respond to people's post... but keep having this monologue with yourself.... "you are a USA Hater, you are ignorant, go back to school...!' :1orglaugh

if you're to simple to see my responses, I can only laugh.:1orglaugh

12clicks 07-15-2003 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

You are an old frustrated goat:

Even the interviewer says so. Get a life before you die.

HaHaHaJaHaHaHa....:321GFY

hahaha, call your betters whatever it takes to get you through the day.
:1orglaugh

juice 07-15-2003 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by NetRodent


Lets see a few off the top of my head...

Many parts of the British Empire until 1833.

Most Spanish ruled South America.

Russia until 1851.

Most of the Barbary Coast states up until the late 1800's.

Most pre-colonial african cultures.

Most of the "classical" ancient world.

Much of Europe pre 1400's.

Slavery is still legal and practiced in Mauritania and Sudan. http://www.iabolish.org/


ok now, so if someone read your post, they can conclude that if in 2003, a nation practicing slavery is no big deal, becaue throught out history.. it has been done!??

You know, ALOT of kings through out history have killed thousands , somethimes millions of their own people... Even if alot of them were doing it... doesnt mean it was ok
:2 cents:

right from wrong as always been there... the only difference is back then.. it was easier to get away with it!!!

Thrawn$ 07-15-2003 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


no, wait. I'm not done.
ahahahahahahahahahaha

son, you've got a very sad life ahead of you.
hopefully, you've got at least 4 yrs of highschool to complete. it may give you a chance.:1orglaugh

My life is good and i'll make more money that you never made cause your an idiot, so Keep my Clickthrutraffic's check and put it in your ass you dumbass :thumbsup

MrPopup 07-15-2003 11:12 AM

fiddy

12clicks 07-15-2003 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Thrawn$


My life is good and i'll make more money that you never made cause your an idiot, so Keep my Clickthrutraffic's check and put it in your ass you dumbass :thumbsup

considering you can't reach the monthly minimum, I'm sure you're making a ton.:1orglaugh

theking 07-15-2003 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
A large military presence required in Iraq and another high price tag for a war make US involvement in North Korea unlikely. The US military is not real big on manpower and effectively a two theater war would be tough on active personnel. Also,a lot of smart-bomb munitions were used in Iraq that need to be replaced. I also don't think the US will use more of it's political capital in another war so close to the previous one. Major combat activities of the type that can be called a war are usually only fought once every decade or two.
If North Korea cannot be "talked" down...it will be taken down. There is not any way that the US will allow North Korea to build a Nuclear arsenal...and more importantly develop ICBM's.

NetRodent 07-15-2003 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by juice
ok now, so if someone read your post, they can conclude that if in 2003, a nation practicing slavery is no big deal, becaue throught out history.. it has been done!??

You know, ALOT of kings through out history have killed thousands , somethimes millions of their own people... Even if alot of them were doing it... doesnt mean it was ok
:2 cents:

right from wrong as always been there... the only difference is back then.. it was easier to get away with it!!!

Where did I say that its no big deal for a nation to be practicing slavery in 2003? You asked about other countries that had as wide spread slavery as the US, seemingly to imply that slavery in the US was something out of the ordinary.

My post was merely to show that slavery has been a part of most cultures for most of human history. The ideas of personal liberty and natural rights are comparably very new ideas. Today most people believe slavey is "evil", yet 2000 years ago it was simply a fact of life. You can't make sense of the past by imposing a modern perspective of right and wrong.

The US has no reason to apologize for slavery in the historical context. Is the world going to ask Italy to apologize or pay reparations to Europe, Asia Minor, and North Africa for the deeds of the Romans?

Thrawn$ 07-15-2003 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

considering you can't reach the monthly minimum, I'm sure you're making a ton.:1orglaugh

Still Laughing :) I reach it last year :Graucho

12clicks 07-15-2003 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Thrawn$


Still Laughing :) I reach it last year :Graucho

and not since you big timer!

ThunderBalls 07-15-2003 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

silly liberal.


From the Reich Wing handbook:

"When in doubt and all else fails use the phrase 'silly liberal' often, also be sure to blame Clintons penis as often as you like."

12clicks 07-15-2003 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls



From the Reich Wing handbook:

"When in doubt and all else fails use the phrase 'silly liberal' often, also be sure to blame Clintons penis as often as you like."

I'm sure this thread was talking about clinton and reich somewhere. :1orglaugh

nap 07-15-2003 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by johnny5



i doubt that. they would stay here so they can go to college for free, get free money from the government, and other shit they feel they have earned cause of this countrys history. besides if they went back to africa, theres no white people for them to call racist.


have you ever had this discussion with a group of black people, odds are no. i have and the majority of the people who i have spoken to about this subject would love to go back to africa and rebuild. a few of the older people that i know actually have left and are living there now.

nap 07-15-2003 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by Kevin2


nap they may want to go back to Africa but I can tell you now they won't last 5 minutes. Why? firstly they can't speak the language anymore. 2nd they will not be able to survive living in mud huts, no food, no money, no work, AIDS out of control, violence all around, no Mc Donalds etc etc

If you have never been to Africa and visited Kenya, Tanzania, Namibia, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe to name only a few then you won't understand what I'm talking about :)


we survived slavery, the kkk, subpar living conditions, AIDS, no work, no money, no food and violence all around in this country, so whats the difference? less police violence?

nap 07-15-2003 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent


Unless I'm mistaken, more people immigrate to the US from Africa each year than the other way around.


your probably mistaken, who knows

Manga1 07-15-2003 12:43 PM

http://www.korea-dpr.com/8july_r1_c1.jpg

:1orglaugh

Gemini 07-15-2003 01:08 PM

Originally posted by NetRodent


Unless I'm mistaken, more people immigrate to the US from Africa each year than the other way around.
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your probably mistaken, who knows


No, YOU are wrong Nap. Thy may not want to come to Okie, but they are certainly immigrating here locally. I used to deal with literally hundreds of men and women here from Somalia, Uganda, Yemen and several other African countries. In fact, their neighbors as well as extended families all pitch in to get one here and then he or she helps the rest to get to the States with money etc.

One of the really nice things about working with Africans is-was, they take the time to LEARN English and do their d*mndest to speak it well compared to the Hispanics that tend to think I should speak their dialect of Spanish. I learned one line of Spanish tho, Ni habla Anglais? Adios. Oh and I didn't say I learnt how to spell it right. :D

Other than that, this thread is ghey as Eq would say. lol You let 12 troll you guys too easily.

Webby 07-15-2003 01:23 PM

theking:

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If North Korea cannot be "talked" down...it will be taken down. There is not any way that the US will allow North Korea to build a Nuclear arsenal...and more importantly develop ICBM's.
Sadly the term "talked down" is not a quality the US Admin is known for. It suffers a chronic lack of any form of diplomacy and frankly, is not trusted by other nations.

The US is known as a country that "invades" with a strong military force, dropping bombs, "threating", "warning" and issuing "ultimatums". All this is the easy bit as the bully on any block knows well, - he also, is the one incapable of "diplomacy".

Reducing conflict requires more than threats and involves much more effort than pressing buttons to dispatch bombs and threatening. As is evidenced in both Afhghanistan and Iraq, the "peace" is harder to achieve.

On North Korea, the typical US response was hit upon on your quote - "the US will allow North Korea to build .." Much as I do not agree with nuclear profliferation, it is not a question of what the "US will not allow". The US is not the government of North Korea. This kinda comment shows, once again, a degree of arrogance.

Meanwhile, all countries (excluding N Korea), involved in nuclear activities are subject to IAEA monitoring. It is notable that this monitoring excludes the US which has more WMD than all nations combined and is run by an Admin that makes rhetorical statements inviting people to attack the US, namely "Bring em on!".

Thrawn$ 07-15-2003 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Gemini
Originally posted by NetRodent




I used to deal with literally hundreds of men and women here from Somalia, Uganda, Yemen and several other African countries.

Yemen isn't in Africa :thumbsup

Gemini 07-15-2003 01:43 PM

Sorry Thrawn$... at the moment with the meds in my brain, I'm not real sure if Indiana is in the US. lol And now I can't even think of what country I was meaning to say. Its right there by Somalia somewheres. :)

theking 07-15-2003 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theking:



Sadly the term "talked down" is not a quality the US Admin is known for. It suffers a chronic lack of any form of diplomacy and frankly, is not trusted by other nations.

The US is known as a country that "invades" with a strong military force, dropping bombs, "threating", "warning" and issuing "ultimatums". All this is the easy bit as the bully on any block knows well, - he also, is the one incapable of "diplomacy".

Reducing conflict requires more than threats and involves much more effort than pressing buttons to dispatch bombs and threatening. As is evidenced in both Afhghanistan and Iraq, the "peace" is harder to achieve.

On North Korea, the typical US response was hit upon on your quote - "the US will allow North Korea to build .." Much as I do not agree with nuclear profliferation, it is not a question of what the "US will not allow". The US is not the government of North Korea. This kinda comment shows, once again, a degree of arrogance.

Meanwhile, all countries (excluding N Korea), involved in nuclear activities are subject to IAEA monitoring. It is notable that this monitoring excludes the US which has more WMD than all nations combined and is run by an Admin that makes rhetorical statements inviting people to attack the US, namely "Bring em on!".

It is a question of what the "US will not allow". If North Korea continues on its current path...North Korea will no longer exist...as it will be taken down. There then will only be one Korea.

brutus 07-15-2003 02:03 PM

FUck. Why it the hell people can't just do business. Politicans are fucking mindless bastards around the world.

ADL Colin 07-15-2003 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theking:

On North Korea, the typical US response was hit upon on your quote - "the US will allow North Korea to build .." Much as I do not agree with nuclear profliferation, it is not a question of what the "US will not allow". The US is not the government of North Korea. This kinda comment shows, once again, a degree of arrogance.

Meanwhile, all countries (excluding N Korea), involved in nuclear activities are subject to IAEA monitoring. It is notable that this monitoring excludes the US which has more WMD than all nations combined and is run by an Admin that makes rhetorical statements inviting people to attack the US, namely "Bring em on!".

It is PRECISELY a matter of what any political power with the willingness to exercise it will allow.

The Geneva conventions won't allow chemical weapons. What validity does that have? A lot if someone is willing to enforce it and none if no one is. If you don't "agree with nuclear proliferation" who do you believe should and would enforce it or do you think all nations should be on the "honor system"?

Every nation wields as much clout as it can in bending the world to it's advantage. Some join oil cartels, others join leagues or organizations or unions, and some form military alliances. They do this to increase their power and influence in the world. Why does it bother you that the US does this in proportion to it's ability but not say France or Russia?

For that matter, you likely believe that the UN should be able to tell the US what to do. What is the difference?

nap 07-15-2003 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Gemini
Originally posted by NetRodent


Unless I'm mistaken, more people immigrate to the US from Africa each year than the other way around.
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your probably mistaken, who knows


No, YOU are wrong Nap. Thy may not want to come to Okie, but they are certainly immigrating here locally. I used to deal with literally hundreds of men and women here from Somalia, Uganda, Yemen and several other African countries. In fact, their neighbors as well as extended families all pitch in to get one here and then he or she helps the rest to get to the States with money etc.

One of the really nice things about working with Africans is-was, they take the time to LEARN English and do their d*mndest to speak it well compared to the Hispanics that tend to think I should speak their dialect of Spanish. I learned one line of Spanish tho, Ni habla Anglais? Adios. Oh and I didn't say I learnt how to spell it right. :D

Other than that, this thread is ghey as Eq would say. lol You let 12 troll you guys too easily.


you havent proved i'm wrong. you just stated your opinion like i stated mine. i really don't care either way but since you made it a point to say i'm WRONG then prove it. until then shuttup.

volante 07-15-2003 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by johnny5



germany.... oh wait.. they just killed the jews didnt they

You're excusing US slavery by comparing it to the holocaust?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

KC 07-15-2003 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by volante


You're excusing US slavery by comparing it to the holocaust?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The holocause wasn't slavery, It was mass genocide.

The point is that many cultures have enslaved people. How do you think the egyptian pyramids were built?

The Romans had slaves.
Black Africans even had other Black African slaves!
The list goes on and on...

KRL 07-15-2003 04:11 PM

North Korea is asking for it by pushing the US over the edge on this issue and they will be in for a nasty surprise soon.

theking 07-15-2003 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
North Korea is asking for it by pushing the US over the edge on this issue and they will be in for a nasty surprise soon.
Yep...similar to sucide "by cop".

Chichio 07-15-2003 05:30 PM

The part that drives me crazy about this is that a nuclear-armed North Korea is a WORLD problem. Seems like our ?allies? have decided to sit this issue out too. They seem more than happy to sit by and let us toil over it.

China is the only country that has lifted a finger about this. They would rather not have American nukes parked in South Korea anytime soon.

scorpy 07-15-2003 05:56 PM

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crockett 07-15-2003 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by keyDet79


I think what he meant was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which was pretty useless since Germany was already defeated.

It was one of those "Look mr Stalin! We may not have fought along in WWII but we are pretty strong too, don't you think?" moments.

so what dose Japan have to do with Germany being defeated? maybe you should recheck you're history.. because if we didn't drop those bombs, we would of had to invade Japan... and with how bad the fighting was in the pacific Islands... the war could have drug on another year or two... and cost many more lives...


guess you forgot about Peral Harbor and all... just remember they attacked us 1st and they didn't worry about killing civilans.
Japan got what it deserved at that time..

Kevin2 07-15-2003 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by nap:
we survived slavery, the kkk, subpar living conditions, AIDS, no work, no money, no food and violence all around in this country, so whats the difference? less police violence?
Did you survive slavery, the kkk, subpar living conditions, aids, no money, no food and violence or are you talking about your grand parents. Have you lived in Africa?

Simply because a person is black doesn't mean he will be accepted in an African tribe. Look at all the tribal violence where 100'000's are being slaughtered in the most violent ways.

You are an ousider to them and they have no respect for the lives of other tribes so what chance do you think you will stand? Once again have you lived there? If not get on the next plane to the Congo and if after a year you are still alive we can carry on the discussion :thumbsup

jimmyf 07-15-2003 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by juice


oh p.s. which other nations had slaves with proportions similar to the US?

who was doing the capture and selling of the slaves?

Troels 07-15-2003 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by crockett


so what dose Japan have to do with Germany being defeated? maybe you should recheck you're history.. because if we didn't drop those bombs, we would of had to invade Japan... and with how bad the fighting was in the pacific Islands... the war could have drug on another year or two... and cost many more lives...


guess you forgot about Peral Harbor and all... just remember they attacked us 1st and they didn't worry about killing civilans.
Japan got what it deserved at that time..

So Iraqies have a carte blanche for killing Americans now?


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