No, actually I wouldn't allow brandon to spam. The other moron is just fun to dick with.

Sorry, I don't discuss my business decisions with halfwits just because said halfwit demands it.
That really pisses off halfwits.:1orglaugh

any affiliates of 12clicks want to ask if he has signed to "protect" them from that part of infringement?

Paul started out by asking a question if he had signed or not since 12clicks has been hypocritical in his words and he wanted to see his actions.

Through their exchanges, 12clicks admits he doesn't support IMPA (i have the pages/text saved of that since i know he deletes posts) and finally answered Paul to say that he let his lawyers handle things... so with words, and not answering the question directly, is where the deducement came in.


Why don't you ask him if he settled. You can tell us Paul was wrong.

I do agress that Paul's tactic was a bit in-your-face...but i guess you have to fight fire with fire.


I have always kept a professional disposition...and when i was alerted to his thread titled "I hope none of you guys are supporting that jackass "FightThisPatent"" ...... i answered professionally and do the point as well (i save those responses knowing that they might get deleted/edited as well..and they did).

You seem like you are a straight shooter, and given a 1-on-1 conversation with me, you will see that I am all that i have said and more (honest, straight shooter, and with integrity). 12clicks postings on his board, this board, and what came out with his exchanges with Paul should cast doubt on him...not me.. i have atleast, always been open and honest.


Fight the Hidden Agendas!

translation = can't hold himself up in a debate...is a control freak.




Fight the Response!

GFY deletes posts too man

amp deleted the thread i wasted him on last week

and with your truthful replies, lost your support.

unlike GFY, I'm not looking at a post count over there. I don't allow spamming ever. you brought nothing to the table except to cut and past the same bullshit you filled thread after thread after thread with over here.
Not needed.
yes, you've held your ground and your support hasd grown. that's why you took your pledge nonsense down.

And now you want compensation for being a board hero. typical.
you're right, its been 4 months. what have you done?

well lets see, you've done nothing, you've backed down from your pledge drive, you're on your way to your next job.
I'm sure I've had it all wrong from the beginning.:1orglaugh
All Paul has done is exposed my arrogance and contempt I hold for the stupid (read: him)
Did he really expose that? I pretty much trot that out every day.

Yes, if I didn't put up the banner CD and Choda would leave. :1orglaugh

If I've libeled you, sue me or is this just more of you telling the truth and being "up front"?

if IMPA is telling webmasters to support you......makes you wonder whos side they're on. how does pissing money down a hole help fight acacia?

many multiples of your number didn't support your idea.

And the next unemployed webmaster will try to profit from fighting them.

I pay lawyers to protect me, so do all other businesses.


Fight the Dopey! :thumbsup

is this going to be another one of your threads filled with meaningless bullshit?
shouldn't you be filling out a job application somewhere?:1orglaugh

who gives a fuck if u bought shares..they could use your cash to buy a bottle of wine at one of their meetings..its the big boys that move these cheapies, undisclosed block trades that make your house look like a cardboard box.

translation = doesn't support IMPA


note...IMPA was around long before i started the idea of Fight the Patent Foundation

and the reason that IMPA supports my efforts, is because i have made a difference in finding prior art.... and i have 2 other patent attorneys from mainstream have said the same.

So yes, they are on my side, as I am on theirs.

So you must be thinking that webmasters who donate to IMPA are pissing away their money.


Fight the Ignorance!

nope, it's yours.



:Graucho :1orglaugh


Fight the Meaningless Threads!

12 clicks why all the personal attacks? I've seen it as well , you started attacking FTP quite some time ago.. Why? if you don't agree with his fight and you support Acacia then good for you but don't try to bash people that are trying to fight them, and help others.

Just because you may have caved in and signed up if you did, don't bash people that are trying to fight . You can allways question someone, but you have not , all you have done tried to Bash FPA every chance you get. This dose nothing but make yourself look like a tool..

Now go ahead and bash me for being a stupid newbie...

Been shaving again?

The problem is you seem to be able to dish out your opinions that are based on nothing but what you THINK and to be honest you should think harder. When you are pulled up you revert to stupid jibes, calling me a no one in the porn industry is stupid not clever.

You were asked straight did you sign and you dodged the question by saying your lawers make those decisions for you. When told you could be paying more than 2% next year you said that's why you have lawyers. You also said you were getting all your aggs in a row so you can fight next year.

I suggest you get new lawyers if that is your strategy, unless you want to tell that one to a judge.

I'm more convinced now than before that you signed. If you are half as big as you make out, you should be one of those fighting this year. Not trying to bring down the two organisations that are fighting this year.

But then maybe you signed cos you're just a little webmaster with out the resources you think or just a guy who signed, not the balls to admit it and will not give to the fight.

What ever who cares, you do seem to be someone who thinks he's important. Hence you starting the post.

The bottom line is IMPA do not thinl a lot of this guy and as they are the ones bearing the brunt of the fight I will go with their assumptions.

sorry brisk, for going off topic on your thread...

looks like the onCommand lawsuit didn't drive the rally....

i think the day traders are waiting for lawsuits go be filed in december, once the 'amnesty date' is over.


Maybe bad timing as well.. with christmas coming and an impending court date with the defendants, many may hold off investing further to ride out the holiday....so i would expect the stock to hold for a little while


Fight the Bulls!

When you've defeated acacia, you can explain how you did it and I'll keep bumping your thread for you.
:1orglaugh

Why are you pissed off?
It seems out of your own mouth came your confession. Plus you do not have the brains to let it die, just keep posting so we can keep slapping youdown and keeping the thread at the top.

Now it is up to others to decide whther you are so clever.

Shall we start a poll?

and the return, is WHEN the patent is invalidated, and you see that i was involved with that, then you can admit you were wrong about me.

I understand that you have your arrogance about you..you know it, everyone knows it... i don't t even fault you for trying to scrutinize me, i welcome it.. but there has to come a point when all your best efforts to discredit me fall short (like right about now) , and as I am still standing and fighting, some respect is deserved.

It's your business choice to settle.. i have talked with many webmasters who have, I have even told some that it would be in their best interest, given their specific circumstances....but they were all the 20K/year type webmasters that you look down upon (http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=198960).

How mighty one must feel when up on the rooftop.

:thumbsup

Fight the Pedestal!

great post!

didn't want it to get lost for those that just jump to page 2.

:thumbsup

Fight the Bend!

I have a long history of being right, you have a long history of taking pictures.
There's a reason only you and you two buddies challenge me.
think about it.

incorrect. I told you I don't discuss the decisions I make with my lawyers with morons like yourself. (that may not be verbatim but that's the jist of it)
this is a lie.
do you say it because you're a liar or because english is your third language?
I'll wait for your answer.


As I've stated repeatedly, you're not bright enough to *guess* and my strategy, nor are you bright enough for me to ever talk to you about it.

it *is* easy to convince an idiot.
the lawyers hired by the businesses who are fighting acacia? I'm bringing them down? really?

keeping morons guessing is one of my fortes.

ah yes, idiots do have a hard time with my arrogance. tough shit. :thumbsup

they don't even have a cliche for someone who goes on others assumptions.:1orglaugh

what time is it where you live charly, paul, or whoever you are?

i thought it was posting one liners


:1orglaugh :Graucho



Fight the One Liners!

I suggest you do a search on page one of this thread.
I don't come looking for these halfwits, they come looking for me.
I forgive you for being confused on that point.
Also, point out that someone is a fool, is not a personal attack when its true.

well, sadly you're wrong.


I'm sorry. I never noticed you before. I wouldn't know whether you were stupid or a newbie.
are you?

actually.. you were the one who fired the first (pot) shot... so since i didn't know you, of you, etc, and certainly didn't come looking for you, then that means that I am not a halfwit.

Maybe you think that i am actually a quarterwit instead?


:1orglaugh


Fight the Wit!

is following the dog with a poop scoop being involved with a dog taking a shit?
The fact is, the patent will stand or fall with or without your help.
trying to create a career for yourself by portraying yourself as *the* fighter of acacia I and many others find disingenuous.

Just in case you missed it:
The fact is, the patent will stand or fall with or without your help.
trying to create a career for yourself by portraying yourself as *the* fighter of acacia I and many others find disingenuous.

look down on? as I've asked your buddy already, I'll ask you. are you a liar or just stupid?
I've helped more 20k a year webmasters in a month than you have in a lifetime.

you'll never know. ever.

Fight the idiot [/B][/QUOTE]

ron (12clicks)

To help webmasters get better educated, why not answering the following questions:


1) What patent attorney did you chat with about the validity of the Acacia Patent?

2) Who in the industry did you talk to helped in your decision to want to settle?

3) What evidence, facts, opinions, observations can you offer to webmasters about why you think the patent is valid?

4) Did you speak to Spike from HomeGrownVideo to get his opinion? Did you talk to any one of the 11 defendants to get their opinion?



Fight the Dodging!

I dont give a shit whether 12 clicks settled or not.

Acacia's patent claims will be invalidated.

OK so I did not quote word for word. But out of your own mouth came the truth. Do you have lawyers to not get a higher rate next year. And you are filling your war chest so that next year you can fight?

So what deal did your lawyers get you and how are you saving money and what is the fight for next year?

I hope you have not signed in the hope that next year you can not pay the license, then they might get an injuction. One year you agree and the next year you change your mind.

Starts a thread by name calling, deletes that persons response and then has the audacity to say this. Either he's an idiot or he thinks everyone else is. And as you say the truth is not a personal attack.

oh, you mean when you were telling your betters you knew better than they did?
well, yeah. I slapped you down then.
This thread is the first time I noticed you in a while.
As long as you and your halfwit friends keep bringing up my name, I'll keep slapping you down.
you sure are a slow learner.
I've already taught you that *bad* publicity doesn't help you (you've admitted this by taking down your pledge drive)
but you refuse to learn what you're taught.
sad.

actually, it's a hobby.....just like your hobby of trying to bash me.

Those of your friends that find my efforts "disingenuous" are most likely the ones that settled.

Of course they feel that way, they support Acacia...and my efforts to fight against patent abuse is one that affects them, especially ones that have their own patents who look to use acacia-style tactics on the adult industry.

If a patent has prior art, it's a bad patent. If there is no prior art, it's a good patent, and the patent holder has every right to profit from it, and to stop others from profitting from it.

I have done my research on this and other patents, and through EVIDENCE, i have formed my opinion that it is invalid.

What research did you do? What research did your attorneys do?

Why not share with those you seek to guide the answers to my questions above? Those questions are not attacking you, and the answers could actually be valuable insight from you, rather than name calling, one liner type responses.


Fight the Misconceptions!

I make my own mind up. And nick names are for others. I'm known in this busines as Paul Markham. Been in it shooting since 1978, how long you been at it?

Did you have some high flying job before being a traffic person?

1) none. it wasn't necissary
2) my partner. no one else's opinion was needed. people come to us for opinions, its rare that we ever need to go to others.
3) the patent is not valid as far as I can tell.
4) their opinion doesn't matter. I didn't succeed in this business by relaying on other people's opinions.

anything else?

its up 5%

I didn't bring up your name like BeetleJuice..someone else had posted that... I could have come crying to the GFY board about your posting and editing behaviors on TunaFishBitch..but i didn't.... it's your little universe of a board, play lord and dominion over it.

As far as schooling... you are in no position to be a teacher.... teachers have patience, humility, and a desire to help people better themselves.

I took down the pledge drive because i am realistic, despite my idealism..no use beating a dead horse... webmasters were not congregating to support me not because of the "bad publicity" you claim, nor my credientials or my ideas, they are apathetic in general.

IMPA has not gotten the strong support from the adult community...so i know it's not about me or my ideas.


Fight the Apathy!

as posted by "charly"
that's funny.
considering *this* business is the internet, I'm pretty unconcerned about your picture taking before the internet.

yeah, but since this business is the internet, its as irrelevant as your picture taking was.

original questions:

1) What patent attorney did you chat with about the validity of the Acacia Patent?

2) Who in the industry did you talk to helped in your decision to want to settle?

3) What evidence, facts, opinions, observations can you offer to webmasters about why you think the patent is valid?

4) Did you speak to Spike from HomeGrownVideo to get his opinion? Did you talk to any one of the 11 defendants to get their opinion?






nope, thanks for sharing.

you're buddy posted here (completely unrelated to this thread) and then you had to get you little personal digs in.
I can't help it if I can't pass up an opportunity to slap down a mouthy nobody.

again, you imagining that you help people and imagining that I don't just doesn't hold up.

WRONG. of course, you would have to make up the "apathetic" excuse to cover your failure.

how do we know its not their support of you that turned people off to them?

Very close to what my prediction of what your answers would have been..... but not quite.

My answers would have looked more like this....

1) none of your business
2) see #1
3) The patent is not valid in my opinion. Your idiot assumptions about my stance on the validity of the patent is also invalid.
4) see #2 and #1






People, 12clicks doesn't believe in FTP or his motives....... big deal. Get over it already.

FTP & Paul -- what exactly do you think will come from attacking ron reactively like this? Judging by his past piss threads, I can answer that for you..... nothing will come from it. You are pretty much wasting your time here, time better spent urging our fellow webmasters to DONATE. Firing accusations that are not based in unshakeable facts is an empty endeavor. You know it, I know it.

As far as I know, the only organization which is collectively and actively fighting Acacia and their bogus patent is the IMPA. I urge everyone to donate to the cause..... tgp'ers, gallery makers, designers, promoters, traffic brokers, free site webmasters, models, actors, EVERYONE.... the outcome of this issue will affect all of you. If you think otherwise then you have your head buried in the sand.

Donate, and shaddaaap with the arguing. We're all on the same side.

I do give a shit. Because every penny that goes to Acacia is being used to fuck the rest of us.

Plus when someone is so anti the two organisations who are the only ones fighting to invalidate the patents, does not happen without a fight, then I have to question his motives.

The lawyers will not win this, they will have to be paid and instructed by people with the balls to fight. Not little board masters like 12clicks.

If we all lay down we will make Berman and Ryan very rich and a lot of us very poor. Losing the patent battle may have no effect on us what so ever except we have to give Acacia a percentagge of out turnover. Or it may change this industry totally. I'm not prepared to take the risk, are you?

Question asked:
3) What evidence, facts, opinions, observations can you offer to webmasters about why you think the patent is valid?


Answer:
3) the patent is not valid as far as I can tell.



So now i understand why you have been bashing me... since you know the patent is invalid...all my prior art searching must be quite silly to you.... I and the defendants should have just asked you if the patent was valid.

And when i proposed to form an entity that focuses on finding prior art and invalidating patents, i can see also why you felt that it was a silly proposal....... you know what is valid or not, without any evidence or consulting with patent attorneys...

anyone who would be donating money to IMPA is truly pissing their own money down a drain.. because all we have to do is ask your opinion, and you seem to dispense it frequently and freely, and problems would be solved.


Hear that America, Acacia's patent is invalid as decreed by 12clicks. Why couldn't you have saved me all the countless hours and phone calls in trying to find prior art?

You could have just told me this in your first posting against me.. maybe something like.........

"hey assclown board whore, give up trying to find prior art, i know the patent is invalid..."


(I know that my impersonation doesn't do you justice.)


Charly, you got it all wrong.. 12clicks would not be licensing a patent that he felt was invalid... you got it all wrong.


Now that we got that cleared up, I'll let Spike and the defendants know that they can sleep better at night, knowing they have 12clicks rendering of the patent invalidity... of course it doesn't help them with the court case unless you go on the stand, and they present you as a material witness.

Hopefully you will take the leadership role of volunteering your testimony... being subpeona is so not right.



Fight the Wrong Impressions!

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup


Fight the Speechless!

no, your prior art searching was unnecissary. Plenty of art has been found without your help. As I've said, you're completely unneeded.

paying money to find something that's already been found for free is silly.
Pretending that other patent claims are coming and that they aren't valid either is just a cry for a job.

If i knew "Rivux", why would i wait almost 3 weeks to do so? I have no problem starting my own threads...especially making posts that don't end up getting deleted.

And i already apologized to brisk for going off topic.

Little bit of a rally on ACTG today...gotta love the day traders getting their gambling fixes in.



Fight the Conspiracy Theories!

My pictures will be jerked off to long after you are gone and forgotten. And I'm sorry you are in the porn business. Or are videos and magazines in the transport business because they get delivered by lorry.

Maybe that is where you are going wrong, you think it's down to programing, scripting and traffic to get a guy to jerk off. :1orglaugh

So you did or did not sign up?

And yes your affiliates have every right to know this. They need to know if you are truthful, honest and straight, they need to know if they will be liable by driving traffic for you, they need to know if they are dealing with a company that can fight this, they need to know if you have the balls, they need to know because they are doing business with you.

And if you don't have the honesty to just come out and tell them, don't go around trying to bring down a guy who is working hard to find prior art, bringing the fight to peopels attention and an organisation who support him and led by people who do have the balls to fight this for people like you.