Yep, 12clicks/Standard are a bunch of shadey fucks. Always have been probably always will be ...

What can you really do about it though? More work for my computer-cleaning business that I run on the side lol ..

-p

bump bump

you're not that thief Phillip Mosby that we bounced out of allclicks are you? :1orglaugh

Why is everyone so intimidated by 12clicks? Has he realy built himself up so high and made himself look so big that he is untouchable ? Has anyone actually talked to the FTC about his company? Is what his company doing illegal? If so, why hasn't someone made a complaint or contacted the proper authorities?

49th would rather just whine about it.

I am curious as well. Why just bitch on a MB.

Well, I'm not about to 'test' what 49th says is spyware etc...but is what he described on this page illegal?

49thParallel, I have a question:
if I drink wine from 12 Click's celler, will I get infected?

appearently. since your halfwit husband sends you out to do his dirty work. :1orglaugh

in your case, probably because your mexican hovel doesn't come with a phone.
for the rest of us, because like most chat board accusations tossed around by trolls, they aren't true. :1orglaugh

a chatboard has an idiot audience build it, the FTC does not.

51 posts in which someone is clueless.



edit, doh

What do you think?

All this link proves is how much of a brown-noser Almighty Colin is. :1orglaugh

You must be his boyfriend or something, 'cause everytime someone says anything about 12clicks you come in saying how great he is with absolutely no real evidence to back it up except your shit-colored nose.

Typical responce from you Ron...

"Must be his boyfriend". What are you, 12?

I read what you wrote the first time. No need to repeat. Maybe you can't remember that far back.

I've known 12 Clicks for almost ten years. I did a lot of business with him in the 90s. Anyone who has been around for a while does not need "evidence".

Ramble on.

its how I treat rabble, as you know first hand.

OK, we'll see :winkwink:

BTW... come on by our horrid mexicn hovel next time your in Cancun , we'd love to finally meet you face to face :winkwink:

this topic just keeps popping up

every resort has a slum. I avoid those areas.

I love trailer trash that talk tough for their husbands.
:1orglaugh

It sure does :eek7

Yea...I am just trailer trash that does her husbands dirtywork :1orglaugh Come up with something better Ron...Jeez...your lines are getting so old, kinda like you.

Like I said you are more than welcome to visit, just stoop low enough one time...

Well if you're so innocent, tell us straight up.

1)Yes or NO, does any of your programs come with coolwwwsearch in them in any sort of way.

2)Yes or No, do any of your pages or any of your programs try to install loader.ocx with or with out permission of the user? Is this code up for use inside your affiliate program?


I think it's pretty safe to say, you are involved with spyware, which you call add supported software. I have no problems with that, if the user knows about it before installing.

Real Player does it, Goggle Tool bar does it, the diffrence is they both make it very clear in bold writing that this in included in their software. It's right there where you can't miss it.

However my guess is you have this in your user agreement, but it's buried under 500 words of text in small print. Hence you are technically legal, but the adverage surfer has no clue that you are installing spyware.

12clicks just got him banned hahaha

better?
nothing's better than the truth, honey.

why don't we wait till your hubby comes home from the day job bussing table and have him threaten me.

I feel all vulnerable when a woman does it and I've got to catch some lunch. :1orglaugh

Imagine that....boy he is a tough guy huh...

this is the mistake of the misguided.
we have no program, we install nothing.
We run ads. approximately 150 different ads.
49th dipshit wants to condemn us because all of our ads don't meet with approval.
he chooses to badmouth me because the other companies running the same ads; double click, fast click, advertising.com, etc. won't give him the same bang for his buck that posting about me will get him here.

oops, looks like he got a little too much bang.

Ah, here we go again....

Why do you keep complaining here? What good does it do you and what damage does it do 12Clicks?

If he's doing something illegal, report him. If he's making money legally doing something you find distasteful, welcome to the way 99% of the world views you as a pornographer.

Time to get over it.

Yep, you are always right Ron...never wrong, that's why I value you opinion so very much.

While we are sitting here in our hovel, you are driving yourself back and forth to your office to work, and while we can't afford to eat, you are having a gormet lunch and while we just scrounge to make ends meet, you are living the good life......keep thinking you've got it all Ron, that's what gets you through your day. Keep thinking you are some high and mighty thing to be googoo'd over on GFY, I know you have to just to keep your self at a place that you won't put a gun to you head. Keep smiling and laughing.

You are a God Ron...the almighty God Ron...Afuckingmen.

you guys are sad, especially you Peaches. you sit here and defend him because what hes doing is legal. Big deal its legal that doesn't make it right. You want to compare fucking up peoples computers with his scumware to viewing porn? thats ridiculous. His programs cause harm to people and hurt our industry as a whole and you want us to sit back and act like its ok? Absolutely ridiculous.

Easy answer to an easy question.

Granted, 90% of the posters on this board are not what one would consider serious webmasters. But 10% are. And, out of the 10%, at least a small percentage I trust to have a least an inkling of business ethics. So, the approach is to get at the very people who promote 12Clicks programs. Much quicker then waiting for the FTC or other regulatory body to take action.

And as far as proof, as always, I don't go off half cocked. I provide the links, I provide the background. To say that the proof doesn't exist is just plan ludicrous.

Yes I know you serve adds, but where are you running them? Are you using spyware to serve them up to infected users?

I have done as requested-- Here are my findings--
Just a normal popup at first--
http://www.ringtonespage.com/en/index.php

After the ringtones page I get a Gaming install which leaves the following--
Details
Name n/a
Database ID 49332
Location
Detected In Windows Registry

Path SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Code Store Database\Distribution Units\{79849612-A98F-45B8-95E9-4D13C7B6B35C}
Description Privacy threats can create entries in your registry, so that they can store such things as configuration and personal information.

Threat

Produced By
Company CoolWebSearch.info
Product Name CoolWebSearch.info, winlink, MSUpdate, IExplorer, CWS, ne5 MFC Application
Company URL http://www.CoolWebSearch.info
Privacy URL n/a

AVG comes up with Virus Detectected screen--
Name Trojan Horse Dropper.Surfside.A within temp internet files
It then adds and EXE file in C:\WINDOWS\SSK_B5.EXE (same trojan as above)

THEN it adds another virus named Trojan horse Downloader.Apropo.O called Autoupdate.exe (3 times)

THEN it adds another trojan "Downloader.Dyfica.3.E" by name of optimize[1].exe-- then it adds this same trojan to WINDOWS folder and names it optimize.exe

THEN it adds Trojan horse "Downloader.Lookme.F" by name of VT00[1].exe in temp internet folder--- which is then added to WINDOWS folder by name of VT00.exe

Then the game software is loaded while another virus is added BHOW.exe to the system32 folder-- plus others that seem to have random names

Then another window pops open for comedy-planet.com(software window, not Explorer) When closed it still runs in the background--

A quick scan now produces these items--
Details

Company IBIS, LLC
Product Name Web Search Toolbar, IBIS, Wintools, huntbar
Company URL http://www.websearch.com/
Privacy URL n/a

Details
Name WToolsA.exe
Database ID 44289
Location
Detected In Programs in Memory

Path C:\Program Files\Common Files\WinTools
Description Privacy threats can exist in your computer's memory. They are usually loaded when you first start your computer or when you launch your web browser.

Threat
Threat Browser Helper Object
Description A type of module that acts as a plugin to Internet Explorer browser. Some BHO?s may monitor or manipulate your web surfing.

Produced By
Company IBIS, LLC
Product Name Web Search Toolbar, IBIS, Wintools, huntbar
Company URL http://www.websearch.com/
Privacy URL n/a

Details
Name n/a
Database ID 11175
Location
Detected In Windows Registry

Path SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{339BB23F-A864-48C0-A59F-29EA915965EC}
Description Privacy threats can create entries in your registry, so that they can store such things as configuration and personal information.

Threat
Threat Browser Hijacker
Description A type of software that changes settings in your web browser. This often includes changing your browser?s default home page.

Produced By
Company IBIS, LLC
Product Name Web Search Toolbar, IBIS, Wintools, huntbar
Company URL http://www.websearch.com/
Privacy URL n/a
--------------------

Details

Company Apropos Media
Product Name Ads, Apropos, Apropos Client, SysAi, Apropos Media, AdChannelServer, Autoupdate, 2nd-thought
Details
Name CxtPls.exe
Database ID 51790
Location
Detected In Programs in Memory

Path C:\Program Files\CxtPls
Description Privacy threats can exist in your computer's memory. They are usually loaded when you first start your computer or when you launch your web browser.

---------------------
Details
Name n/a
Database ID 5489
Location
Detected In Windows Registry

Path SOFTWARE\Envolo\AutoUpdate
Description Privacy threats can create entries in your registry, so that they can store such things as configuration and personal information.

Threat
Threat Browser Hijacker
Description A type of software that changes settings in your web browser. This often includes changing your browser?s default home page.

Produced By
Company PeopleOnPage, Inc.
Product Name POP communicator, POP!, AutoUpdate, PeopleOnPage
Company URL http://www.pop.com/
Privacy URL n/a
------------------------------------
Details
Name n/a
Database ID 29788
Location
Detected In Windows Registry

Path SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{87766247-311C-43B4-8499-3D5FEC94A183}\InprocServer32
Description Privacy threats can create entries in your registry, so that they can store such things as configuration and personal information.
Company WinTools
Product Name WinTools, IBIS
---------------------------
Details
Name n/a
Database ID 47005
Location
Detected In Windows Registry

Path SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{BC333116-6EA1-40A1-9D07-ECB192DB8CEA}
Description Privacy threats can create entries in your registry, so that they can store such things as configuration and personal information.

Threat
Threat Downloader
Description Software that manages the download of other software onto computers

Produced By
Company Clear Search, Inc.
Product Name ClearSearch, Clear Search Plugin, Loader, ClearSearch Loader, CSBB Module, ClearSearch LoaderUpdater, BHO
Company URL http://
Privacy URL n/a
------------------------------
Details
Name n/a
Database ID 47042
Location
Detected In Windows Registry

Path SOFTWARE\Classes\Interface\{B548B7D8-3D03-4AED-A6A1-4251FAD00C10}
Description Privacy threats can create entries in your registry, so that they can store such things as configuration and personal information.

Threat
Threat Parasite
Description A type of software that piggybacks onto other software. This type of software may be installed without the user?s knowledge or consent.

Produced By
Company Messenger Plus
Product Name INavigateEvent, INavigateEvent2, IAdministrative
Company URL
Privacy URL n/a
------------------------------------

Details
Name n/a
Database ID 49307
Location
Detected In Windows Registry

Path SOFTWARE\Classes\Interface\{ACE5B10B-92A3-4103-8583-3684BB09409F}
Description Privacy threats can create entries in your registry, so that they can store such things as configuration and personal information.

Threat
Threat Adware
Description AdWare is a type of software that displays advertisements on the computer screen while a computer is running. Typically, AdWare is built into software that performs some other primary task such as file sharing.
The justification for AdWare is for the software developer to recover revenue via advertising instead of for instance charging for their software. Some Adware will collect the computers usage information (e.g. sites visited) and send it up to a remote server on the internet where it is collected and processed for marketing purposes.

Produced By
Company Browser Village
Product Name Browser Village Toolbar
------------------------
This one is interesting as it seems to be adult and there was nothing adult on the computer used--
Details
Name n/a
Database ID 49350
Location
Detected In Windows Registry

Path SOFTWARE\Classes\TypeLib\{487E7682-B976-41FB-A944-E8B83689A454}\1.0
Description Privacy threats can create entries in your registry, so that they can store such things as configuration and personal information.

Threat
Threat Adware
Description AdWare is a type of software that displays advertisements on the computer screen while a computer is running. Typically, AdWare is built into software that performs some other primary task such as file sharing.
The justification for AdWare is for the software developer to recover revenue via advertising instead of for instance charging for their software. Some Adware will collect the computers usage information (e.g. sites visited) and send it up to a remote server on the internet where it is collected and processed for marketing purposes.

Produced By
Company Coulomb Ltd
Product Name GirlsHost, Content Access Plugin, PrivateAccess, xxx Movie Viewer, loader2
Company URL
Privacy URL n/a


It added 7 programs to memory, 248 items to the registry(according to 1 bit of software that was run prior to this test)

THEN, you have to run several different uninstall programs to get rid of all the programs installed. Then they actually give a nice little popup during uninstall trying to sell you spyware removers.

And I only listed part of what this does!

Basically this whole setup really screws up your computer-- repeat virus warnings even after uninstall etc... I uninstalled everything I could find in the add/remove programs area, and still getting virus warnings(after the scumwares recommended reboot) and and initial scan shows most of this stuff is still on the computer.

lovely isnt it? all this so someone can make 12 cents a click. Fucking douchebags.

Quickdraw....my apologies. My virus scanner caught everything.
And Ron 12Clicks, it's only libel if it's untrue. As they say, the proof is in the pudding.

Your buddy,
49thparallel

dude - thats a Legitimate MAINSTREAM buinsess you're slamming!!!!!!


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

No worries - Got it covered :thumbsup

edit-- oops-- it may take me a while to clean it all up, but I'll get it-- restarting IE opened a new batch of trouble...

I bet there aren't 5 posters here who promote his programs and those that do know exactly what they are promoting.

Do you see him advertise here? Does he even have a link in his sig? He's here for sport. These threads serve no purpose but to entertain him for a few hours :winkwink:

very true.

still fun to tease him and watch him squirm though.........

:thumbsup

ALL YUPPIE SPYWARE SCUM WILL DIE :feels-hot

Wow, 49th was banned for this? He wasn't lying by what I found.

hmm..