12Clicks and Standard Internet - Stop this Scum - GoFuckYourself.com

49thParallel · 02-03-2005, 08:29 AM

Every day, I see post after post of people complaining about adware/spywqare infected computers. The source of most of this scumware comes from our very own 12Clicks. The simple truth is, he is COSTING YOU MONEY!! His aggressive adware/spyware programs are popping up ads over top of your ads, and making the surfing experience for most users quite miserable.

I know this industry is basically one of few or no business ethics, but come on people. Grow a spine, and let this sleazy businessman(?) know that this type of business model is simply not acceptable.

BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT!!

To test this for yourself - IMPORTANT - DO NOT DO IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VIRUS SCANNER IN PLACE - Insert the following piece of code in between the head markers on a blank webpage. The open up the page in a browser. (Note: This code comes directly from the affiliate link page from popuptraffic.com. one of Standard Internets program).

Here's what my test this morning revealed:

First Pop-up - Stopped by McAfee - Downloader-TH TROJAN trying to install loader.ocx. This is SPYWARE. And 12Clicks (Ron), none of your juvinile responses are going to change this

Second Pop-up - Same as above

Third Pop-up - Free Screensavers - This program is known to carry with it coolwwwsearch and a number of other adware components, all guaranteed to make the user's internet experience a living hell. And here's the real catch. Uninstalling this piece of work does not get rid of it. The only way to clear your computer of this VERY aggressive adware is to use 2 or 3 adware/spyware removers. They will reboot your computer numerous times in safe mode, before this scumware is eradicated. Until you remove this, expect pop-up after pop-up that Win XP and the other pop-up stoppers can't stop.

And why should you care. This is why. Not only does the removal of these pieces of scumware cost businesses millions of dollars each year, but they also cost YOU money. Here's how. The surfer decides to click on an advertisement for your site. 12Clicks program pops up another site in front of yours. The surfer either get's pissed off and closes both windows, or goes to the first window he see's...12Clicks.

Forth Pop-up - Free Ringtones - same action as Free screensavers

And I searched and searched for a disclaimer for screensavers or freeringtones that indicates that you are also agreeing to a host of adware being installed on your computer, I can't find it.

I guarantee, 12Clicks will post his normal diversion response, and I welcome it. But, for the rest of you, be rest assured, I never make a claim without thoroughly investigating first. I've given you all the steps you need to test this for yourself. Have fun.

Aza · 02-03-2005, 08:33 AM

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 08:35 AM

ahahaha, your still home?
I guess you're working the lunch shift today.

how about we talk about your business for a while?

is it harder to cook hashbrowns or fries?

ADL Colin · 02-03-2005, 08:35 AM

Quite the obsession you have there.

MickeyG · 02-03-2005, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 49thParallel

Every day, I see post after post of people complaining about adware/spywqare infected computers. The source of most of this scumware comes from our very own 12Clicks. The simple truth is, he is COSTING YOU MONEY!! His aggressive adware/spyware programs are popping up ads over top of your ads, and making the surfing experience for most users quite miserable.

I wish more people would realize this. His programs have infected most of our computers yet no one seems to care. Fuck him and the rest of his spyware/adware scum pushing friends.

Doctor Dre · 02-03-2005, 08:38 AM

Watch 12clicks diss everybody in the thread from now on . really getting old

psyko514 · 02-03-2005, 08:38 AM

Christ dude, it's getting really fucking old.

How long have you been whining about this bullshit? And what have you accomplished?

Give it up.

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Watch 12clicks diss everybody in the thread from now on . really getting old

nah, not everyone. Just the same 5 losers who continually hop in 49th nobody's threads.

49thParallel · 02-03-2005, 08:44 AM

Yes, and until I see the heat being put on this type of business, the obsession will remain. But, the beauty of this is that, yes I will get the same 5 or 10 gfy board whores that will always add their 2 cents..just because they like to see their words in print. But, it is not them that I am interested in...they are already a lost cause. It's the other hundereds of gfy members that simply sit in the sidelines, never posting, that I post this info for.

Case in point, my last post regarding 12clicks is within the top 20 for the most viewed posts on gfy. But only about 12 different people posted in the thread.

But, back to the business at hand. Don't let 12Clicks and Standard Internet steal money from you and from businesses all across the country.

FuqALot · 02-03-2005, 08:46 AM

It's pretty simply to solve this... 12, do you or do you not install aggressive spyware?

Cassie · 02-03-2005, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Quite the obsession you have there.

nojob · 02-03-2005, 08:47 AM

this things piss me off also. but i do not like to point fingers.

49thParallel · 02-03-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FuqALot

It's pretty simply to solve this... 12, do you or do you not install aggressive spyware?

Even simplier. Follow the steps I provided above and find out for yourself. Next, 12Clicks will be claiming that I have hijacked his webserver, and placed a trojan download on it. My words mean nothing...that's why I provide the evidence to back it up.

candyflip · 02-03-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FuqALot

It's pretty simply to solve this... 12, do you or do you not install aggressive spyware?

It's called "ad supported software".

ADL Colin · 02-03-2005, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 49thParallel

Yes, and until I see the heat being put on this type of business, the obsession will remain. But, the beauty of this is that, yes I will get the same 5 or 10 gfy board whores that will always add their 2 cents..just because they like to see their words in print. But, it is not them that I am interested in...they are already a lost cause. It's the other hundereds of gfy members that simply sit in the sidelines, never posting, that I post this info for.

Case in point, my last post regarding 12clicks is within the top 20 for the most viewed posts on gfy. But only about 12 different people posted in the thread.

But, back to the business at hand. Don't let 12Clicks and Standard Internet steal money from you and from businesses all across the country.

12 Clicks owns you

ADL Colin · 02-03-2005, 08:49 AM

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuqALot

It's pretty simply to solve this... 12, do you or do you not install aggressive spyware?

I've already answered this question about 20 threads ago.

49thnobody tells a story that if he told in the US would cost him everything he owns.

ask him why the FTC won't take his calls. After all, what he describes is illegal. the FTC would be all over me if it were true.
figure it out.

Sheri Santiago · 02-03-2005, 08:51 AM

12clicks suddenly gave me the urge for McDonalds...

modF · 02-03-2005, 08:52 AM

Yawn......

MickeyG · 02-03-2005, 08:53 AM

its quite simple no matter how 12clicks tries to spin it the answer is YES, he is a scumware provider. And odds are MOST people here have been infected by his products.

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 49thParallel

Even simplier. Follow the steps I provided above and find out for yourself. Next, 12Clicks will be claiming that I have hijacked his webserver, and placed a trojan download on it. My words mean nothing...that's why I provide the evidence to back it up.

you didn't answer my hashbrowns question, idiot.

ADL Colin · 02-03-2005, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheri Santiago

12clicks suddenly gave me the urge for McDonalds...

Because you want to see 49thParallel in action?

Phoenix · 02-03-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by modF

Yawn......

12 clicks started a fire in my loins

49thParallel · 02-03-2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I've already answered this question about 20 threads ago.

49thnobody tells a story that if he told in the US would cost him everything he owns.

ask him why the FTC won't take his calls. After all, what he describes is illegal. the FTC would be all over me if it were true.
figure it out.

Ron, I invite everyone to test the link. And this claim is on a U.S board, to U.S surfers...so, if you think my claims can't be proved, bring it on.

FuqALot · 02-03-2005, 08:57 AM

Hehe colin what are you doing here supporting someone who is thought to be a spyware install guy.

Sheri Santiago · 02-03-2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

12 clicks started a fire in my loins

aahahaha brad you big stud you

modF · 02-03-2005, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

12 clicks started a fire in my loins

Yeah, but you are easy.

ADL Colin · 02-03-2005, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuqALot

Hehe colin what are you doing here supporting someone who is thought to be a spyware install guy.

The same reason why I do anything. Self-interest. I always make money from 12 Clicks threads

PS I didn't give an opinion about spyware. I don't know anything about it or the laws pertaining to it.

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MickeyG

its quite simple no matter how 12clicks tries to spin it the answer is YES, he is a scumware provider. And odds are MOST people here have been infected by his products.

am I spinning?
son, why don't you call the FTC and tell them all about it. After all, if you know it, its your civic duty!

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 49thParallel

Ron, I invite everyone to test the link. And this claim is on a U.S board, to U.S surfers...so, if you think my claims can't be proved, bring it on.

son, you don't have US assets (let alone canadian) don't pretend to be a tough guy. you're safe across the border.

49thParallel · 02-03-2005, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

son, you don't have US assets (let alone canadian) don't pretend to be a tough guy. you're safe across the boarder.

I'd be safe if I was your next door neighbor. To everyone else, feel free to follow the test instructions at the start of the thread (with your VIRUS Stopper ON!)

Quickdraw · 02-03-2005, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 49thParallel

Ron, I invite everyone to test the link. And this claim is on a U.S board, to U.S surfers...so, if you think my claims can't be proved, bring it on.

what link?

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 49thParallel

I'd be safe if I was your next door neighbor. To everyone else, feel free to follow the test instructions at the start of the thread (with your VIRUS Stopper ON!)

sure you would, chump.

but anyway, why won't you talk about your business? I talk about mine.
The question is simple, Hashbrowns of Fries?

49thParallel · 02-03-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Quickdraw

what link?

I provide explicit directions on how to test this in the start of this thread. You can not simply click on the link. You must put the javascript between the head markers on a blnak page. And then open the page. With your VIRUS Protection ON!!

Rui · 02-03-2005, 09:16 AM

and the saga continues! ..eh

Quickdraw · 02-03-2005, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 49thParallel

I provide explicit directions on how to test this in the start of this thread. You can not simply click on the link. You must put the javascript between the head markers on a blnak page. And then open the page. With your VIRUS Protection ON!!

Sorry, don't see that either..

L0stMind · 02-03-2005, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 49thParallel

I provide explicit directions on how to test this in the start of this thread. You can not simply click on the link. You must put the javascript between the head markers on a blnak page. And then open the page. With your VIRUS Protection ON!!

yah, but you didnt tell anyone where to find this JS.

So really, you aren't looking too good here.

Furious_Male · 02-03-2005, 09:19 AM

This argument has been going on for some time. Although SI products may not be popular with webmasters or surfers for that matter the question there is always one question that remains. Is SI breaking the law?

Darkystar · 02-03-2005, 09:20 AM

one day 49thParallel will piss off the wrong people

49thParallel · 02-03-2005, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by L0stMind

yah, but you didnt tell anyone where to find this JS.

So really, you aren't looking too good here.

Damn...you are right. I did overlook this rather important detail. Here you go:

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript" src="http://www.popuptraffic.com/assign.php?l=testlink"></script>

P.S. As a safeguard, you might want to change the name "testlink" with another random name. This will prevent 12Clicks from changing the ad delivery for the particular link I have provided.

jawanda · 02-03-2005, 09:28 AM

Yep, 12clicks/Standard are a bunch of shadey fucks. Always have been probably always will be ...

What can you really do about it though? More work for my computer-cleaning business that I run on the side lol ..

-p

49thParallel · 02-03-2005, 09:33 AM

bump bump

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawanda

Yep, 12clicks/Standard are a bunch of shadey fucks. Always have been probably always will be ...

What can you really do about it though? More work for my computer-cleaning business that I run on the side lol ..

-p

you're not that thief Phillip Mosby that we bounced out of allclicks are you?

dirtydesignz · 02-03-2005, 09:54 AM

Why is everyone so intimidated by 12clicks? Has he realy built himself up so high and made himself look so big that he is untouchable ? Has anyone actually talked to the FTC about his company? Is what his company doing illegal? If so, why hasn't someone made a complaint or contacted the proper authorities?

psyko514 · 02-03-2005, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz

Why is everyone so intimidated by 12clicks? Has he realy built himself up so high and made himself look so big that he is untouchable ? Has anyone actually talked to the FTC about his company? Is what his company doing illegal? If so, why hasn't someone made a complaint or contacted the proper authorities?

49th would rather just whine about it.

Furious_Male · 02-03-2005, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz

Why is everyone so intimidated by 12clicks? Has he realy built himself up so high and made himself look so big that he is untouchable ? Has anyone actually talked to the FTC about his company? Is what his company doing illegal? If so, why hasn't someone made a complaint or contacted the proper authorities?

I am curious as well. Why just bitch on a MB.

dirtydesignz · 02-03-2005, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psyko514

49th would rather just whine about it.

Well, I'm not about to 'test' what 49th says is spyware etc...but is what he described on this page illegal?

NoComments · 02-03-2005, 10:02 AM

49thParallel, I have a question:
if I drink wine from 12 Click's celler, will I get infected?

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz

Why is everyone so intimidated by 12clicks? Has he realy built himself up so high and made himself look so big that he is untouchable ?

appearently. since your halfwit husband sends you out to do his dirty work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz

Has anyone actually talked to the FTC about his company? Is what his company doing illegal? If so, why hasn't someone made a complaint or contacted the proper authorities?

in your case, probably because your mexican hovel doesn't come with a phone.
for the rest of us, because like most chat board accusations tossed around by trolls, they aren't true.

12clicks · 02-03-2005, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male

I am curious as well. Why just bitch on a MB.

a chatboard has an idiot audience build it, the FTC does not.

02-03-2005, 08:29 AM	#1
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	12Clicks and Standard Internet - Stop this Scum Every day, I see post after post of people complaining about adware/spywqare infected computers. The source of most of this scumware comes from our very own 12Clicks. The simple truth is, he is COSTING YOU MONEY!! His aggressive adware/spyware programs are popping up ads over top of your ads, and making the surfing experience for most users quite miserable. I know this industry is basically one of few or no business ethics, but come on people. Grow a spine, and let this sleazy businessman(?) know that this type of business model is simply not acceptable. BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT!! To test this for yourself - IMPORTANT - DO NOT DO IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VIRUS SCANNER IN PLACE - Insert the following piece of code in between the head markers on a blank webpage. The open up the page in a browser. (Note: This code comes directly from the affiliate link page from popuptraffic.com. one of Standard Internets program). Here's what my test this morning revealed: First Pop-up - Stopped by McAfee - Downloader-TH TROJAN trying to install loader.ocx. This is SPYWARE. And 12Clicks (Ron), none of your juvinile responses are going to change this Second Pop-up - Same as above Third Pop-up - Free Screensavers - This program is known to carry with it coolwwwsearch and a number of other adware components, all guaranteed to make the user's internet experience a living hell. And here's the real catch. Uninstalling this piece of work does not get rid of it. The only way to clear your computer of this VERY aggressive adware is to use 2 or 3 adware/spyware removers. They will reboot your computer numerous times in safe mode, before this scumware is eradicated. Until you remove this, expect pop-up after pop-up that Win XP and the other pop-up stoppers can't stop. And why should you care. This is why. Not only does the removal of these pieces of scumware cost businesses millions of dollars each year, but they also cost YOU money. Here's how. The surfer decides to click on an advertisement for your site. 12Clicks program pops up another site in front of yours. The surfer either get's pissed off and closes both windows, or goes to the first window he see's...12Clicks. Forth Pop-up - Free Ringtones - same action as Free screensavers And I searched and searched for a disclaimer for screensavers or freeringtones that indicates that you are also agreeing to a host of adware being installed on your computer, I can't find it. I guarantee, 12Clicks will post his normal diversion response, and I welcome it. But, for the rest of you, be rest assured, I never make a claim without thoroughly investigating first. I've given you all the steps you need to test this for yourself. Have fun. Last edited by 49thParallel; 02-03-2005 at 08:31 AM..

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02-03-2005, 08:44 AM	#9
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Yes, and until I see the heat being put on this type of business, the obsession will remain. But, the beauty of this is that, yes I will get the same 5 or 10 gfy board whores that will always add their 2 cents..just because they like to see their words in print. But, it is not them that I am interested in...they are already a lost cause. It's the other hundereds of gfy members that simply sit in the sidelines, never posting, that I post this info for. Case in point, my last post regarding 12clicks is within the top 20 for the most viewed posts on gfy. But only about 12 different people posted in the thread. But, back to the business at hand. Don't let 12Clicks and Standard Internet steal money from you and from businesses all across the country. Last edited by 49thParallel; 02-03-2005 at 08:46 AM..

02-03-2005, 08:46 AM	#10
FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	It's pretty simply to solve this... 12, do you or do you not install aggressive spyware?

02-03-2005, 08:47 AM	#12
nojob The Original NoJob Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jerzzey Posts: 3,682	this things piss me off also. but i do not like to point fingers.

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02-03-2005, 08:53 AM	#20
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	its quite simple no matter how 12clicks tries to spin it the answer is YES, he is a scumware provider. And odds are MOST people here have been infected by his products.

02-03-2005, 08:57 AM	#25
FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	Hehe colin what are you doing here supporting someone who is thought to be a spyware install guy.

02-03-2005, 09:16 AM	#35
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	and the saga continues! ..eh

02-03-2005, 09:19 AM	#38
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02-03-2005, 09:28 AM	#41
jawanda Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,040	Yep, 12clicks/Standard are a bunch of shadey fucks. Always have been probably always will be ... What can you really do about it though? More work for my computer-cleaning business that I run on the side lol .. -p

02-03-2005, 09:33 AM	#42
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	bump bump

02-03-2005, 09:54 AM	#44
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02-03-2005, 10:02 AM	#48
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