I have tivo , i have never had to take it to a repair shop to remove spyware ??

for the uneducated, yes. the only valid points are that we do not allow auto installs.
so if you watch a commercial or look at our ad, the same thing happends. If on the other hand you call the "male enhancement" add you see on ESPN and your dick doesn't grow, its about the same as clicking on the links. Niether ESPN or I are responsible for the choices you make.
advertising has always been about seperating the stupid from there money.

Like I said in the first post on this page. You serve the ads what happens after that you are not responsible for. You may not allow auto installs (or deceptive installs ie: terms are buried under a ton of text) but advertisers you link to may support them.

Its a grey line. People on both sides of the fence should be able to see that.

its no greyer than cross sells, dialers or anything else.
I'm not the internet police. If one of my advertisers is breaking the law, I turn over all their info to the FTC when asked. Just like yahoo does.

Not pretending anything, I just posted what happened.

I loaded the javascript page again after the ringtone popup, then I get a software download page that has the terms listed here--
http://www.crazywinnings.com/activex/conditions.php

I loaded the 'game' and then you can see what happened after that with my previous post.

I posted facts, nothing more..

Funny you resort to name calling. My feelings have been injured. :helpme :1orglaugh

It may not be you that is hosting the downloads, but you are definitely a facilitator in the process.

<reads....shrugs....reads the same shit four posts down....shrugs....reads more of the same shit four posts down....feels a pattern emerging....waits until someone can either provide real proof or backs off.....sees someone was banned....giggles insanely....still sees no proof of any wrongdoing by 12clicks....goes about my day>

Yes I agree. I mentioned cross sells and shitty members areas as a comparison. I am on the fence about the entire issue I am here more for the conversation.

Of course we could have this same conversation about dialers and cross sells so I have nothing personal against you (not that you would give a fuck if I did).

sorry, chump change. you facilitate the process by clicking.
(I'll forgive your ignorance about the net since you haven't been here very long)

I've got an appointment with Hugo Boss. I'll see you kids tomorrow. (tonight if you're lucky and I'm bored)

Oh No!

You saying 12 is another Serge? :1orglaugh

I would say your almost right.

Sadly, you are correct. None of these people who spend 12+ hours a day on the internet have ever gotten any type of adware or spyware. They are all running Linux or Mac's and safe.

It's ok with me if you have to talk down to folks to make yourself feel better.

Your assumptions are incorrect about my time online. But that makes no difference here. If you feel better talking down to people then feel free :winkwink:

And yes I clicked the install, but I knew what I was getting into(or had an idea)

Your company is still a key to alot of these problems, but what can one do? I can do nothing, but I know abit more now. Too bad you just spew rhetoric and insults, I was hoping to learn something from the right hand of god....

Nice reply to a SERIOUS issue. Just makes your case look even worse. would you say that in court? Um no. I mean you might if you are retarded which is debateable right now. Now are you going to answer SERIOUSLY or be a douchebag? YOUR choice.

If I ran a newspaper and ther wer ads for "excorts" am I repsonisble for this even if I am unaware? You bet I am. Look up the law. Anyone that would claim ignornace is probally ingorant. It's HIS program you can't seriously tell me he's unaware of the type of ads he has running. If so then he's a VERY VERY poor businessman.

Notice I said "One Could Argue". As already mentioned. He knows he runs a grey line. The line is as grey as someone sending traffic to a program that has nasty cross sells, a shitty members area or hammers the user inside with dialers etc.

GFY threads about "who is the most righteous" are far better than the GFY threads about "who has the biggest ... "

Good job everyone.

the back of the LA Weekly is filled with escort ads.

heheh

Ans...so...? doesn't makeit right. No one ever said the LA was the bastion of morality.

This thread reminds me that its time to look into advertising with Starndard Internet. Thanks!

oh no! a silly surfer is going to school me on what I should and shouldn't do!
my god, I better listen up. :1orglaugh

http://www.webmasterknifefights.com

morality stems from the edge of a blade.

Yeah I'm a surfer. What a fucking moron. WHO the fuck are you anyways with the "I'm so much better and improtant than everyone" attitude? Seriously who in the fuck are you? I'm asking. You a nobody. You non-important. You could fall the face of the earth and no one will notice.

MORALITY??????

Ummm, what do you do for a living?

It may be a serious issue, that he did answer already. Now he can be a douchebag all he wants. SI has been running mainstream ad networks or acting as ad brokers since 1999/98ish, somethign tells me they will not be making it to court anytime soon.

Tell my boy Antonio at Sagemore I said what's up!

I'm not a 12clicks supporter by any means, but i will say this.

"If he is doing something ILLEGAL then post proof"

this is often said , but not nearly as easily done..

Im sure we all agree ibill is doing something illegal , but in all reality we can quote laws left and right , but the proof is in a court case..

So the only REAL proof is done by courts, thus unless someone can point us to some legal papers , then its just "he said she said "

That being said theres obviously gaps in the law. Have you ever gotten a phone call from one of those automated telephone systems that gives you a pre-recorded message ? They piss me the fuck off , but technically they arent illegal.

That doesnt mean you cant give a beef about some company, but keep it to the facts.

In the worse case scenario i suggest if it means that much to a person he/she/they should collect as much info as they can and do whatever they can (i.e. legally on paper ), and a forum is a good way to start.

Lets take the recent case of the domain hijackers/hackers that recently stole thousands of very popular domains such as thehun and sleazy's sites f3.com etc etc

They offered the install files and the "hacker/spammer/hijacker" simply uses any exploit he chooses to install the spyware. The company just says they dont condone it they just offer a piece of software, and all they can do is shutdown users who promote their services in this manner..

So in the end they arent doing anything illegal all they are offering is the software and the affiliate chooses how to promote it..

This is what i call CLICK LAUNDERING. Does it mean they are doing something illegal ? no not yet. Does it mean they are shady as a bush at night ? probably. :)

Im also no fan of 12clicks, because of his posts (which as we all know doesnt mean shit) I think he speaks before he thinks. But that said. If hes doing something illegal then report him. If hes not, then shut up already. I expect hes being clever and not doing anything illegal, but just doing something you dont like.......For years people have done things I dont like. It doesnt make it illegal :2 cents:

Freddie Mercury lives!!

150 cool web searches installed on my computer

how do I get rid of it? :(

150 cool web searches installed on my computer :thumbsup

wrong son, I've out thought the lot of you before I make my first post.
I treat these accusations with the seriousness they deserve.

Take a deep breath and think about who 99% of the people on this board are and then imagine what they are to me. :1orglaugh

http://cwshredder.net/cwshredder/cwschronicles.html

Here is how to get rid of it.

I shop with Ulysses not Antonio. :winkwink:

Since I am on the 4th page, I guess this is not worthy of popcorn.

bump because its so funny.

Click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click = 12Clicks

12Clicks = egocentric idiot with a foul mouth!

Met Ron several times, always found him a pleasant person to talk to.

Took me an hour to get coolwebsearch or whatever the fuck it was off of the family computer. (sigh)

Brad

I almost killed 12clicks with elevator doors in Phoenix.

As I watched them close on his head I thought to myself "how would surfers on GFY occupy their time without the legend?" and hit the doors open button.

True story: His receptionist was there and decked out in Chanel and Louboutin's. She really does make more than most people here.