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stickyfingerz 05-27-2007 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 12495805)
I couldn't agree more. Doesn't get more entertaining than watching you. :)

Lol turn it on me I really dont care. :winkwink: We'll see after the next election what happens. :)

drowsy 05-27-2007 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sami (Post 12493832)
Who here thinks Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents the US has ever had?

There was moderate peace around the world.. well comparing it to now!
The economy was doing very well!
Job market was at its best!

Am I wrong on this or ?

It was great on Balkan too. Bil Clinton threw 100.000 bombs on Yugoslavia...
It was awesome :thumbsup

DamageX 05-27-2007 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12495815)
Lol turn it on me I really dont care. :winkwink:

Actually the one turning it on you is none other than yourself. There are moderates and intolerants on both ends of the scale. You don't strike me as being part of the first group.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-27-2007 07:00 AM

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, ms lewinsky, but i am wearing her underwear!

stickyfingerz 05-27-2007 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 12496000)
Actually the one turning it on you is none other than yourself. There are moderates and intolerants on both ends of the scale. You don't strike me as being part of the first group.

Well you would be wrong.. your first clue should be that we are discussing this on a porn forum.

Your second should be that I work in the adult industry.

Your third should be that it is Sunday and I am on a porn board.

Your forth should be that I frequently discuss my occasional weed use.

Your fifth should be that I frequently speak out about legalizing prostitution. lol

Now do I need to define Moderate, and intolerant? lol :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DamageX 05-27-2007 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12496060)
Well you would be wrong.. your first clue should be that we are discussing this on a porn forum.

Your second should be that I work in the adult industry.

Your third should be that it is Sunday and I am on a porn board.

Your forth should be that I frequently discuss my occasional weed use.

Your fifth should be that I frequently speak out about legalizing prostitution. lol

Now do I need to define Moderate, and intolerant? lol :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yet you keep bashing anyone with opinions different than yours. You might want to look up those definitions in a dictionary.

stickyfingerz 05-27-2007 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 12496069)
Yet you keep bashing anyone with opinions different than yours. You might want to look up those definitions in a dictionary.

Bashing? What views have I bashed exactly? lol Not agreeing that Clinton was a good president is bashing? Id call it a difference of opinion. Bashing? :uhoh :1orglaugh

Humpy Leftnut 05-27-2007 10:22 AM

You can't be the president of the united states for 8 years and "do nothing"

What people mean when they say that, is that they wish he'd done more fighting. I think a lot of Americans are a bit bloodthirsty, or at least expect their government to be for them.

spanky part 2 05-27-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 12493957)
Clinton was the worst President EVER.

He was impeached and nearly convicted, and the only thing that saved him was partisan political corruption.

His administration had so many scandals it is mind boggling. Dozens of his cronies went to jail or resigned in disgrace.

His weak foreign policy allowed terrorism to take root.

You are a tool republican and don't have a fucking clue about how the real world works. How many millions did Ken Starr waste to find out bubba got a hummer. shit i would have lied about that too, if I thought hillary would find out......yikes don't want that woman scorned.

DamageX 05-27-2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12496542)
Bashing? What views have I bashed exactly? lol Not agreeing that Clinton was a good president is bashing? Id call it a difference of opinion. Bashing? :uhoh :1orglaugh

Not even referring to this thread. Anyway, I won't argue with you. Do your porn, smoke your pot and feel free to think that makes you tolerant. :)

woj 05-27-2007 10:39 AM

50 best presidents :thumbsup

stickyfingerz 05-27-2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 12496599)
Not even referring to this thread. Anyway, I won't argue with you. Do your porn, smoke your pot and feel free to think that makes you tolerant. :)

Good deal. lol :thumbsup

vvq 05-27-2007 10:59 AM

clinton was the best no doubt

spanky part 2 05-27-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 12494237)
JFK- his dealing with the cuban missile crisis puts him very near the top

Ronald Reagan- cold war, the berlin wall comming down and when he did have a scandal he stood up and took his lumps like a man and didn't lie his way out of like slick willy.

Remember that when reagan took office we had high unemployement and high inflaction and he brought the country out of that mess.

ummmmm where do you get your stats. Reagan did a lot, but unemployment wasn't one of his strong suits. He also killed the traffic controllers union, and he took away railroad employees retirement that they had taken a paycut so they could get more retirement. This i know for a fact, as my father would have an extra $1000 a month now that he's retired. So thanks Mr. Reagan:thumbsup

theking 05-27-2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 12496720)
ummmmm where do you get your stats. Reagan did a lot, but unemployment wasn't one of his strong suits. He also killed the traffic controllers union, and he took away railroad employees retirement that they had taken a paycut so they could get more retirement. This i know for a fact, as my father would have an extra $1000 a month now that he's retired. So thanks Mr. Reagan:thumbsup

President Reagan also left office with the national debt four times the amount as when he entered office.

LadyMischief 05-27-2007 12:49 PM

Clinton was a grass-roots kinda guy :)

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JP513 05-27-2007 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by starpimps (Post 12494782)
his poor choice in mistresses, leaves a sour taste in my mouth

LOL. Yeah man I wish he picked a hotter girl.:thumbsup

EBORG9 05-27-2007 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JP513 (Post 12497077)
LOL. Yeah man I wish he picked a hotter girl.:thumbsup

Paula Jones came out OK, after a few upgrades.
http://untruenews.com/more_images/paula_jones.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/205000...aula_jones.jpg
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http://images.forbes.com/images/2002...es_200x200.jpg

juz 05-27-2007 02:03 PM

Good lord the Clinton humpers on this board are as bad the Bush lovers, say something negative about bubba and the only reply is better then the current administration.... Well that really doesn't say a lot for Bill does it. :1orglaugh

Bill wasn't all that bad but history wont put him anywhere near the the best, he was fortunate enough to get elected right as the tech boom was starting but the good times were not a result of anything he did. He boasted of a balanced budget, but if you go back and like through the GOA you'll see it was all smoke and mirrors.

And yes his foreign policy did help the rise to the current problem with Al Qaeda, bitch and moan all you want about Iraq/Bush and I'll agree with you but it is fact Clinton and his administration could have captured bin Laden on several occasions and passed because they didn't view him as a threat even though he was tied to the first World Trade Center bombing, Kenya and Nairobi embassy bombings and the USS Cole.

In his defense though, his administration did screw the pooch in 93 with the Mogadishu/Blackhawk down incident, which took all the wind out of any military sails of his presidency.

So in conclusion Bush sucks and Clinton was over rated and I pray to god Hilary is not elected, she is not what this country needs after the Bush fiasco, she will divide us even more.

spanky part 2 05-27-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by juz (Post 12497378)
Good lord the Clinton humpers on this board are as bad the Bush lovers, say something negative about bubba and the only reply is better then the current administration.... Well that really doesn't say a lot for Bill does it. :1orglaugh

Bill wasn't all that bad but history wont put him anywhere near the the best, he was fortunate enough to get elected right as the tech boom was starting but the good times were not a result of anything he did. He boasted of a balanced budget, but if you go back and like through the GOA you'll see it was all smoke and mirrors.

And yes his foreign policy did help the rise to the current problem with Al Qaeda, bitch and moan all you want about Iraq/Bush and I'll agree with you but it is fact Clinton and his administration could have captured bin Laden on several occasions and passed because they didn't view him as a threat even though he was tied to the first World Trade Center bombing, Kenya and Nairobi embassy bombings and the USS Cole.

In his defense though, his administration did screw the pooch in 93 with the Mogadishu/Blackhawk down incident, which took all the wind out of any military sails of his presidency.

So in conclusion Bush sucks and Clinton was over rated and I pray to god Hilary is not elected, she is not what this country needs after the Bush fiasco, she will divide us even more.

Truth be told it was Reagan and the first Bush who were giving money and training the taliban to fight the russians. So I think they should take the blame for the current world issues. Well them and big oil who has been fucking the middle east for centuries now.

Fap 05-27-2007 03:34 PM

He's got nothing on Nixon

hypnotizes 05-27-2007 03:46 PM

Clinton was the best PREZ.

The facts are there. The economy was booming, jobs were abundant, we were @ peace aside from a few military scraps, and the most anyone has to complain about is that he lied about getting his dick sucked.

On the other hand, you got Dubya who got us in a vietnam type war which is futile. The economy is down, he's an idiot (just look his greatest hits on you tube) and his administration is hit with scandal after scandal every week. He should be impeached but those wealthy powers that be would rather have a conservative in office to make the rich richer.

And for all you conservative fucks that wanna bring up "the war on terrorism", you can suck a fat one. I actually fought in OIF, two years a piece, torn away from my family and friends. Even though I didnt agree with the war, i did my duty and fought it in cuz i owed it to my friends next to me and its what i promised God I would do for my country when I rose my right hand.

Ive seen what goes on over there. For those of you that say the war is the right thing, how come 90% of you arent serving or have an excuse. Send your kids to fight and die and lets see if you support the war then.

teenmodelcumshots 05-27-2007 04:49 PM

Stephen Colbert would ask "Bill Clinton: One of the best presidents or the best president?"

He was certainly a friend to the adult industry. While he was in office, things were great. Porn and free speech laws were relaxed.

Then George Dumbass Bush got in and Seymour Butts and Rob Black were hit with lawsuits. Suddenly Bukkake and Double Fisting became illegal. And there was an attempt to kill off part of the industry with 2257 laws.

We need another Porn-Friendly President.

How can you possibly be an Adult Webmaster and a Conservative? How could the two possibly go together???

seven 05-27-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by teenmodelcumshots (Post 12498026)
We need another Porn-Friendly President.

Not sure Hilary will like to be friends with porn-peddlers.. Rudy Giuliani could be a better choice.. he's pro many things so better chances.. :thumbsup

tranza 05-27-2007 07:32 PM

He was better than GWB for sure...

juz 05-27-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 12497398)
Truth be told it was Reagan and the first Bush who were giving money and training the taliban to fight the russians. So I think they should take the blame for the current world issues. Well them and big oil who has been fucking the middle east for centuries now.


Typical, cant accept blame for your poster boy, instead shift blame to the other party... YOU are whats wrong with American politics.

Oh by the way there was no Taliban fighting the Russians and big oil hasn't been in the middle east for centuries, please do some research before you post bullshit.

CDSmith 05-27-2007 07:52 PM

Every opinion on this is going to be too simplistic in some aspect. From the perspective of an outsider (non-US resident) looking in one could say Clinton removed the deficit that Bush Sr ran up and even created a bit of a surplus during his tenure. The US dollar's value certainly rose on the world market during his watch, and by his momentum continued to climb for a year or two after he was finished. Then Bush Jr did the war thing and a few other bold moves and poof, your dollar is in the crapper.

Simplistic, surface-view only though.

Others will argue the moral issue, him being a bad role model, philandering, cheating on his wife, etc. Still others will pull out the 25 year economics charts and graphs and attempt to illustrate why he was a bad president or a good one.

Personally I like Bill. I think that if Hillary is elected (and she could very well be) his influence as "first lady" would definitely be a factor. He's one of the best public speakers in the world, the leaders of many other nations all liked him and respected him greatly, that's a fact. Under his watch you didn't hear nearly as much negativity about the USA as you do today under the Bush regime.

And really, any president who plays the saxaphone is going to be well-liked, period. The man get's BJ's, cranks out good tunage, and is a consumate diplomate on the world's political stage, even those who hate him gotta love him a LITTLE. :D

Julianni may have to wait 4 to 8 more years before it's his time.

mikeyddddd 05-27-2007 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by juz (Post 12498594)
Typical, cant accept blame for your poster boy, instead shift blame to the other party...

An overused tactic of Dubya.

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Originally Posted by juz (Post 12498594)
YOU are whats wrong with American politics.

The correct pronoun would be "HE", as in "Dubya shifts blame to the other party all the time. HE is what's wrong with American politics".

Pleasurepays 05-27-2007 08:06 PM

the .com explosion happens and Clinton gets credit for a robust economy. there is a budget surplus as a result and clinton gets credit for being fiscally responsible... yet neither issues have anything at all to do with who is or isn't president.

Clinton was a good president by virtue of the fact that he fucked shit up less than some others.

Peace? Somalia? Kosovo? weighing plans to Bomb N Korea etc etc etc.

CDSmith 05-27-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12498657)
Peace? Somalia? Kosovo?

What was the problem with Kosovo? He had to go in there and kick some Serb ass and protect 300,000 refugees from being raped and fucking slaughtered.

I have no problem with how Kosovo was handled. In fact I applaud the guy.

DaddyHalbucks 05-27-2007 08:12 PM

Hillary is far more liberal than Bill. Hopefully the red states will block that nightmare.

CDSmith 05-27-2007 08:14 PM

I wonder what gee dubya would have done different during the Kosovo crisis.


:D

spanky part 2 05-27-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by juz (Post 12498594)
Typical, cant accept blame for your poster boy, instead shift blame to the other party... YOU are whats wrong with American politics.

Oh by the way there was no Taliban fighting the Russians and big oil hasn't been in the middle east for centuries, please do some research before you post bullshit.


You would have been great in Nazi germany. The whole I didn't realize what was going on thing worked real well back then too. If it wasn't for liberals like me, you wouldn't have access to the internet without logging into some government oversight department, you would have big brother listening into your phone calls, and you wouldn't be posting on GFY cuz it would be banned.

As for the oil companies, if you didn't realise there was a typo and I meant to say decades, well then I apologise for that. As for the Taliban, if I remember the term that you republicans used back then, they were called "freedom fighters". Kinda like how we helped put Saddam in power, or should I say you republicans did.

You want to go back even further on how bad the republicans have fucked this counry. Look up Shah of Iran, and see where the Iran problems started.

The CIA calls it blowback, and you conservatives sure cause a lot of it.

spanky part 2 05-27-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 12498671)
Hillary is far more liberal than Bill. Hopefully the red states will block that nightmare.

Yep cuz those red states gave us a real winner these last 7 plus years.

Pleasurepays 05-27-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12498661)
What was the problem with Kosovo? He had to go in there and kick some Serb ass and protect 300,000 refugees from being raped and fucking slaughtered.

I have no problem with how Kosovo was handled. In fact I applaud the guy.

i wasn't attacking or defending anything. i was commenting on others general stance about his presidency and "peace" as if all problems can be solved with a hug and gift basket... and he was the man to do it. i dont think he was a bad president at all... then again, i've had 7 years of watching a bumbling baboon tell me how the world should be run, so its probably not a fair comparison.

CDSmith 05-27-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12498733)
i wasn't attacking or defending anything. i was commenting on others general stance about his presidency and "peace" as if all problems can be solved with a hug and gift basket... and he was the man to do it. i dont think he was a bad president at all... then again, i've had 7 years of watching a bumbling baboon tell me how the world should be run, so its probably not a fair comparison.

Ah, okay, I see where you were going with that thought now.

Yeah, I'm a little sensitive to critics of the Kosovo thing. Milosevic and his followers needed a good shit-kicking, and the coalition gave it to them in spades.

Ol Bill had teeth when he needed to have teeth, but I always saw him a as a damn fine diplomat too.

directfiesta 05-27-2007 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by seven (Post 12498536)
Rudy Giuliani could be a better choice..

How exterminated the porn shops of New York ( 38th ) and got Disney to take over ... ????

directfiesta 05-27-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12498675)
I wonder what gee dubya would have done different during the Kosovo crisis.


:D

Simple : he would have bombed ........... IRAQ !!!!!

juz 05-27-2007 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 12498683)
You would have been great in Nazi germany. The whole I didn't realize what was going on thing worked real well back then too. If it wasn't for liberals like me, you wouldn't have access to the internet without logging into some government oversight department, you would have big brother listening into your phone calls, and you wouldn't be posting on GFY cuz it would be banned.

As for the oil companies, if you didn't realise there was a typo and I meant to say decades, well then I apologise for that. As for the Taliban, if I remember the term that you republicans used back then, they were called "freedom fighters". Kinda like how we helped put Saddam in power, or should I say you republicans did.

You want to go back even further on how bad the republicans have fucked this counry. Look up Shah of Iran, and see where the Iran problems started.

The CIA calls it blowback, and you conservatives sure cause a lot of it.



You need to remove your tinfoil hat son, funny how if someone disagrees with you, they are a conservative. You couldn't be more WRONG AGAIN, how does it feel?
Yes typo from century and decade I can see how easily that happens..
What does internet access and GFY have to do with any of this? Oh NOTHING!

You keep calling me a republican .. WRONG AGAIN, I take it that is your debate style, no substance, no facts only talking points so you resort to calling names, grow up, do some research and come back after you know what you are talking about because right now all you are doing is making assumptions and we all know what that means.

CDSmith 05-27-2007 09:33 PM

I'm essentially conservative..... and I like Bill.


:D


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