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Old 05-26-2007, 03:27 PM   #1
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Bill Clinton one of the best presidents??

Who here thinks Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents the US has ever had?

There was moderate peace around the world.. well comparing it to now!
The economy was doing very well!
Job market was at its best!

Am I wrong on this or ?
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There are two ways a president can be good. By doing a lot of good or by doing nothing bad. If you don't do anything you can't do anything bad.
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:34 PM   #3
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not one of the best ever... THE best ever

i really hope hillary wins next so Bill can pimp it out in the white house as the next first lady. i see him strolling around the white house lawn in a smoking jacket... hugh heffner style
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not one of the best ever... THE best ever

i really hope hillary wins next so Bill can pimp it out in the white house as the next first lady. i see him strolling around the white house lawn in a smoking jacket... hugh heffner style
That would be classic.

I think Clinton was one of the best presidents. He had a bit of luck on his side with the dot com boom and such on his watch to help the economy but he still had a surplus which in this day and age is not easy.

Still a few things would have been nice if he had gotten the health care through and such.
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Clinton was the worst President EVER.

He was impeached and nearly convicted, and the only thing that saved him was partisan political corruption.

His administration had so many scandals it is mind boggling. Dozens of his cronies went to jail or resigned in disgrace.

His weak foreign policy allowed terrorism to take root.
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:04 PM   #6
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Clinton was the worst President EVER.

He was impeached and nearly convicted, and the only thing that saved him was partisan political corruption.

His administration had so many scandals it is mind boggling. Dozens of his cronies went to jail or resigned in disgrace.

His weak foreign policy allowed terrorism to take root.
Yo nobody beats my man Bush when It comes to being the worst so watch what you saying dude, don't become one of the liberal pussies
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Lol you have to be kidding.
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He was more of aware of other countries and their cultural uniqueness than most of his predecessors or successors .... he also did a good job with the economy and I think he is far more intelligent than most other US Presidents!
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If it were not for term limits, he would still be president.

And if America wakes up and realizes that he would be the shadow president for Hillary, she will be our next president (on paper anyway).
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He was an adequate President, which just highlights how bad most of our other Presidents have been, lol.

If I were to pick the "best" president I'd probably pick Theodore Roosevelt.
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:44 PM   #12
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from a european side of view! indeed he rocked and i dearly hope his wife will make it president on the next elections

these genocides over oil need to be stopped
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Clinton was the worst President EVER.

He was impeached and nearly convicted, and the only thing that saved him was partisan political corruption.

His administration had so many scandals it is mind boggling. Dozens of his cronies went to jail or resigned in disgrace.

His weak foreign policy allowed terrorism to take root.
Yea things are so much better now! haha

I miss the days of having a president that the only thing the other side of the isle could nail him on is lying about getting a blowjob... Which according to your logic is far worse than killing damn near a million people in fucked up war that has ruined our credibilty in the world, driven gas prices thru the roof, which will have much longer enonomic effects than anyone wants to admit... Locking up Americans and others with no due process, allowing the FBI to spy on Americans again with no due process and the list goes on... You have to be a complete moron not to see that GW is by far more fucked up than Clinton could have ever been...
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Clinton was the worst President EVER.

He was impeached and nearly convicted, and the only thing that saved him was partisan political corruption.

His administration had so many scandals it is mind boggling. Dozens of his cronies went to jail or resigned in disgrace.

His weak foreign policy allowed terrorism to take root.
Clinton was not the best, but he was far from the worst.

He was impeached for doing what any married man would do - deny getting a blowjob from someone besides his wife. Unlike those told by Bush, no one has died as a result of his lie.

Everything else you have described would apply to Bush's administration. If Bush himself is not a criminal, he is at least criminally stupid.

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If it were not for term limits, he would still be president.

And if America wakes up and realizes that he would be the shadow president for Hillary, she will be our next president (on paper anyway).
Yes, he would still be president. Electing Hillary would not put Bill back into the Oval Office and would not be good for the country because of the animosity held for the Clintons by too many right-wing lunatics.

Dubya has demonstrated, with his cowboy-style politics, how bad things can get when there is no cooperation between the parties.
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He was an adequate President, which just highlights how bad most of our other Presidents have been, lol.

If I were to pick the "best" president I'd probably pick Theodore Roosevelt.
top 3 or top 5 for sure, but Abe Lincoln and George Washington gotta top the list. FDR. Then maybe Teddy and/or Wilson.

No modern president has achieved true greatness.
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He was definately the best in the past 36 years. I cant comment on any presidents before i was born.
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If it were not for term limits, he would still be president.

And if America wakes up and realizes that he would be the shadow president for Hillary, she will be our next president (on paper anyway).
How do you know that it wasn't her who ran the show when he was president?
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Clinton was the worst President EVER.

He was impeached and nearly convicted, and the only thing that saved him was partisan political corruption.

His administration had so many scandals it is mind boggling. Dozens of his cronies went to jail or resigned in disgrace.

His weak foreign policy allowed terrorism to take root.

as opposed to the current administration who....oh....wait, nevermind.
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top 3 or top 5 for sure, but Abe Lincoln and George Washington gotta top the list. FDR. Then maybe Teddy and/or Wilson.

No modern president has achieved true greatness.

JFK- his dealing with the cuban missile crisis puts him very near the top

Ronald Reagan- cold war, the berlin wall comming down and when he did have a scandal he stood up and took his lumps like a man and didn't lie his way out of like slick willy.

Remember that when reagan took office we had high unemployement and high inflaction and he brought the country out of that mess.
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Clinton was not the best, but he was far from the worst.

He was impeached for doing what any married man would do - deny getting a blowjob from someone besides his wife. Unlike those told by Bush, no one has died as a result of his lie.

Everything else you have described would apply to Bush's administration. If Bush himself is not a criminal, he is at least criminally stupid.



Yes, he would still be president. Electing Hillary would not put Bill back into the Oval Office and would not be good for the country because of the animosity held for the Clintons by too many right-wing lunatics.

Dubya has demonstrated, with his cowboy-style politics, how bad things can get when there is no cooperation between the parties.
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Who here thinks Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents the US has ever had?

There was moderate peace around the world.. well comparing it to now!
The economy was doing very well!
Job market was at its best!

Am I wrong on this or ?
you are wrong, the best quarter in growth that he had was the first quarter of his prez. All that was because of Bush
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Bill fuckin' rocked, and Bill still rocks


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Canadian dollar at lowest with Clinton: $1:$1.54
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his poor choice in mistresses, leaves a sour taste in my mouth
but otherwise he was good to go like the crunchwarp supreme
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it pains me too see that number agian.... I can only hold out hope it will climb and climb and climb as bush exits.
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top 3 or top 5 for sure, but Abe Lincoln and George Washington gotta top the list. FDR. Then maybe Teddy and/or Wilson.

No modern president has achieved true greatness.
I completely agree that no modern president has even come close to greatness. When you think of people like Lincoln, Washington, FDR, TR, etc, they can't even come close.

The reason I've always ranked Teddy high is because I actually admire him as a person, tremendous intellect, but at the same time a tough guy that's not like the whiny ass little bitches we have now in politics.

It's amazing we've gone so long without great leaders...a few adequate leaders, sure, but great...not even close.
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He was impeached and nearly convicted, and the only thing that saved him was partisan political corruption.

His administration had so many scandals it is mind boggling. Dozens of his cronies went to jail or resigned in disgrace.

His weak foreign policy allowed terrorism to take root.
Yea funny that when Bill Clinton left office, one of the most important warnings he gave to Bush Jr was about terrorism. Yet until 9/11 Bush Jr didn't even bother to have a single security briefing on terrorism.

So who was weak on terrorism? Oh and btw I'd have a hard time believing Clinton had more scandals or corruption than either Regan's administration or Bush Jr's.
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not one of the best ever... THE best ever

i really hope hillary wins next so Bill can pimp it out in the white house as the next first lady. i see him strolling around the white house lawn in a smoking jacket... hugh heffner style
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That would be classic.

I think Clinton was one of the best presidents. He had a bit of luck on his side with the dot com boom and such on his watch to help the economy but he still had a surplus which in this day and age is not easy.

Still a few things would have been nice if he had gotten the health care through and such.
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Yea things are so much better now! haha

I miss the days of having a president that the only thing the other side of the isle could nail him on is lying about getting a blowjob... Which according to your logic is far worse than killing damn near a million people in fucked up war that has ruined our credibilty in the world, driven gas prices thru the roof, which will have much longer enonomic effects than anyone wants to admit... Locking up Americans and others with no due process, allowing the FBI to spy on Americans again with no due process and the list goes on... You have to be a complete moron not to see that GW is by far more fucked up than Clinton could have ever been...
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His administration had so many scandals it is mind boggling.
Dozens of his cronies went to jail or resigned in disgrace.
This is HILARIOUS considering the current administration.

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If the amount of money I've have is any indication, he was the greatest president during my lifetime.

If not.. well then, at least he was a good speaker when he wasn't trying to determine the meaning of the word, "is".
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If the amount of money I've have is any indication, he was the greatest president during my lifetime.

If not.. well then, at least he was a good speaker when he wasn't trying to determine the meaning of the word, "is".
I always thought he had to have a lot of Irish in him. Someone falls ass backwards into the .com boom and suddenly he is an economic genius haha.
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I couldn't agree more. Doesn't get more entertaining than watching you.
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Lol turn it on me I really dont care. We'll see after the next election what happens.
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Am I wrong on this or ?
It was great on Balkan too. Bil Clinton threw 100.000 bombs on Yugoslavia...
It was awesome
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Lol turn it on me I really dont care.
Actually the one turning it on you is none other than yourself. There are moderates and intolerants on both ends of the scale. You don't strike me as being part of the first group.
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:11 AM   #45
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Actually the one turning it on you is none other than yourself. There are moderates and intolerants on both ends of the scale. You don't strike me as being part of the first group.
Well you would be wrong.. your first clue should be that we are discussing this on a porn forum.

Your second should be that I work in the adult industry.

Your third should be that it is Sunday and I am on a porn board.

Your forth should be that I frequently discuss my occasional weed use.

Your fifth should be that I frequently speak out about legalizing prostitution. lol

Now do I need to define Moderate, and intolerant? lol
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Well you would be wrong.. your first clue should be that we are discussing this on a porn forum.

Your second should be that I work in the adult industry.

Your third should be that it is Sunday and I am on a porn board.

Your forth should be that I frequently discuss my occasional weed use.

Your fifth should be that I frequently speak out about legalizing prostitution. lol

Now do I need to define Moderate, and intolerant? lol
Yet you keep bashing anyone with opinions different than yours. You might want to look up those definitions in a dictionary.
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:16 AM   #47
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Yet you keep bashing anyone with opinions different than yours. You might want to look up those definitions in a dictionary.
Bashing? What views have I bashed exactly? lol Not agreeing that Clinton was a good president is bashing? Id call it a difference of opinion. Bashing?
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You can't be the president of the united states for 8 years and "do nothing"

What people mean when they say that, is that they wish he'd done more fighting. I think a lot of Americans are a bit bloodthirsty, or at least expect their government to be for them.
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Clinton was the worst President EVER.

He was impeached and nearly convicted, and the only thing that saved him was partisan political corruption.

His administration had so many scandals it is mind boggling. Dozens of his cronies went to jail or resigned in disgrace.

His weak foreign policy allowed terrorism to take root.
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Bashing? What views have I bashed exactly? lol Not agreeing that Clinton was a good president is bashing? Id call it a difference of opinion. Bashing?
Not even referring to this thread. Anyway, I won't argue with you. Do your porn, smoke your pot and feel free to think that makes you tolerant.
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