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RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:00 PM

Juicy, you can start looking for link here:

http://fleshlight.com/forums/showthread.php?p=667565

Some nice links to videos on rapidshare.

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
You may want to take a trip back in time and see how the TGP industry got it's start.


As for these arguments that the dating sites are keeping torrent sites in business, that is total BS. We know from history that if you remove all income from hacking, warez, music trading and torrent sites that they'll still be there. Plenty of webmasters are more than willing to run these type of sites as a zero income hobby.

When they are making zero money, the "bros" won't be stealing from other "bros". Right now, that would appear to be the case, a few companies making bank off the hard work of others.

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516719)
Sticking a legal broom up AFF's ass is a good place to start. Actively asking GFY (and other adult boards) to stop taking the bros' money would be another.

How can you ask GFY (Playboy) to stop taking AFF's money, They delete threads that bad mouth AFF, I think the Bro's club is alot bigger than you think

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516747)
Juicy, you can start looking for link here:

http://fleshlight.com/forums/showthread.php?p=667565

Some nice links to videos on rapidshare.


Thx i believe i have Mod access on that forum let me try.

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12516751)
How can you ask GFY (Playboy) to stop taking AFF's money, They delete threads that bad mouth AFF, I think the Bro's club is alot bigger than you think


Please dont MIX UP "BRO's" with Top Notch and StandUp Guy :pimp :pimp


http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...493/z04472.jpg

VexXxed 05-30-2007 09:04 PM

Big Up DWB! Definitely supporting your fight over here.

I know if my content was getting passed around like that I would definitely be looking to change the game.

Matt 26z 05-30-2007 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516747)
Juicy, you can start looking for link here:

http://fleshlight.com/forums/showthread.php?p=667565

Some nice links to videos on rapidshare.

If you read the text with those posts, they appear to be amateur videos made by the members of that forum using their FleshLights.

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12516755)
Please dont MIX UP "BRO's" with Top Notch and StandUp Guy :pimp :pimp


http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...493/z04472.jpg

I wouldn't dream of it mate:thumbsup

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12516751)
How can you ask GFY (Playboy) to stop taking AFF's money, They delete threads that bad mouth AFF, I think the Bro's club is alot bigger than you think

Realistically, while I don't yell "mutiny", I would have to say that their might find themselves on a chatboard island with a few syncopates and not much else. Blatantly playing favorites just ain't good for business. Big chat boards have come and gone on less.

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516763)
If you read the text with those posts, they appear to be amateur videos made by the members of that forum using their FleshLights.


Any link to anything on rapidshare.de is encouraging surfers to go look on a torrent site or filing sharing site for content. Not a good idea, considering all the other fine stuff you can find on there.

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:11 PM

Matt: http://ddl.how.pl/ - how much of that stuff do you think Bangbros allowed to be put out there?

Matt 26z 05-30-2007 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516749)
When they are making zero money, the "bros" won't be stealing from other "bros". Right now, that would appear to be the case, a few companies making bank off the hard work of others.

Your key words are "right now." Back in the early days of TGPs they were posting stolen content and linking directly to members areas. A real thorn in the side of the industry, yet they were allowed to have sponsor banners on their front pages. This is really what we are seeing again with torrents. You can either attempt to cut it's head off now, or let it naturally develop into something with some order that can be used by the industry. That is my take on this.

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 09:15 PM

Matt 26z do you run any of these types of sites? every torrent thread I have seen you always seem to be defending them

SmokeyTheBear 05-30-2007 09:16 PM

wow how did i miss this gem ..

:thumbsup

Well Dunn 05-30-2007 09:16 PM

lmfao niceeeeeeeeee

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 12516793)
wow how did i miss this gem ..

:thumbsup

Come on in, the water is fine

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 09:18 PM

point out any torrent , similar sites with Fleshlight on em if you see em

SleazyDream 05-30-2007 09:23 PM

no one here has heard of DRM?

Pleasurepays 05-30-2007 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516790)
Your key words are "right now." Back in the early days of TGPs they were posting stolen content and linking directly to members areas. A real thorn in the side of the industry, yet they were allowed to have sponsor banners on their front pages. This is really what we are seeing again with torrents. You can either attempt to cut it's head off now, or let it naturally develop into something with some order that can be used by the industry. That is my take on this.

the "early days" where millions of people were searching for 1000s of pages cannot possibly be compared to today in any way, shape or form. all those "problems" of the early days didn't evolve into something else... they were for the most part, eradicated by people refusing to do business with those people.

unless of course "the early days" to you means 2 years ago or something.

you can't compare a wild west free for all that had yet to settle into some sort of order to the increasing problem of blatent content theft and copyrighted content sharing that is happening on a scale that was NEVER possible before now.

bobbyjuly 05-30-2007 09:24 PM

Time for action guys. It will only get worse unless website owners start going after Torrent sites and their advertisers. :2 cents:


Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516627)
Okay, now my constructive contribution to this thread:

DMCA them.

Start with any single torrent site that has AFF on it and your material. Take screen shots, you will need it. DMCA the torrent site. I know this is likely worthless, but it is a good start. DMCA their hosting company as well.

Now the real stuff: DMCA AFF / Cams.

Quite simply, they are contributing to your content being stolen, providing financial support to those who guide and provide access to the material.

DMCA Google. Any time you see a torrent site with your material on it, DMCA Google, and ask them to remove that site from their listings. Based on the most recent Perfect 10's ruling, Google will likely be very responsive to your missives. Make sure you indicate specific pages you have seen your material listed on, with screen shots.

DMCA AFF's hosting company. Make sure they are aware of the situation.

Do the same with any other advertising company you find on the page. You will almost certainly find AdBrite or similar on there - potentially even Google.

Send a letter to the RIAA and to the Motion Picture Academy. Let them know that a company right in their back yard (AFF / Cams) is actively providing financial support for torrent sites. Let them know the steps you have taken. Encourage them to contact AFF and ask them why this is the case.

At some point, one or the other of these companies or groups will get advice from a lawyer that they are compelled to take action. If things go according to plan, that will include trying to stuff a legal broomstick up AFF's corporate ass.

Don't just bitch - take action.


RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516790)
Your key words are "right now." Back in the early days of TGPs they were posting stolen content and linking directly to members areas. A real thorn in the side of the industry, yet they were allowed to have sponsor banners on their front pages. This is really what we are seeing again with torrents. You can either attempt to cut it's head off now, or let it naturally develop into something with some order that can be used by the industry. That is my take on this.

Well, the linking directly to members areas was stopped in a very short amount of time (except by programs that mistakenly thought they could make money on the upsells inside... instead they got wiped out by huge bills on plugins). The situation wasn't tolerable, and it was changed.

If it was AFF's content getting ripped off, it might be there choice - but they aren't the ones getting ripped off, they are working hand in hand with the bandits to profit from the work of others.

AFF could VERY VERY easily add code in their iframe serving software (and affiliate tracking system) to deny requests from torrent sites. They aren't hard to find. Ban the word "torrent" in the URL. Suddenly these guys aren't getting banners served. Suddently their clicks don't count. Suddenly the money stops flowing.

That would be too easy, now wouldn't it?

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12516807)
no one here has heard of DRM?

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Next.

SmokeyTheBear 05-30-2007 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
You may want to take a trip back in time and see how the TGP industry got it's start.

webmasters took their own thumbs because the sponsor wasnt but the sponsor still makes money, playboy doesnt make anything by having every issue of playboy on torrent sites before i get them with my paid subscription


Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
As for these arguments that the dating sites are keeping torrent sites in business, that is total BS.

how do you figure that .. if they are the majority of the sponsors = most of the income , thasts about as clear as you can get
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
We know from history that if you remove all income from hacking, warez, music trading and torrent sites that

that there arent nearly as many .. thats what i have noticed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
. Plenty of webmasters are more than willing to run these type of sites as a zero income hobby.

i dont see any doing it.. thats like saying oil barons are just doing it for kicks and would do it for no profit just because they like seeing us drive around in cars..

Could be true but we will never know because there aren't any doing it.. prob a good indicator .

Daruma 05-30-2007 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12516807)
no one here has heard of DRM?

looks like you found the magic bullet.. not..

http://www.esreconvilier.net/UserFil...e/Applause.gif

budz 05-30-2007 09:38 PM

nice posts rawalex :o

OzMan 05-30-2007 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12516803)
point out any torrent , similar sites with Fleshlight on em if you see em

from the piratebay

http://clicktorrent.info/phpAdsNew/a...ten ttype=gif

http://tinyurl.com/35cxyd

OzMan 05-30-2007 10:02 PM

another one from the same page

http://clicktorrent.info/phpAdsNew/a... ntenttype=gif

refreshing that page gives me Fleshlight Sexbankroll and Xratedbucks so far

RawAlex 05-30-2007 10:03 PM

Ozman, affiliate links would be better...

beemk 05-30-2007 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12516504)
Lars said he is forced to support content theft and that everyone should wake up to the way of the future, new business models, the ever changing nature of the internet...etc etc etc.

umm, if people had a way to give out free paid memberships they hacked to aff im sure he would change his tune.

OzMan 05-30-2007 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516953)
Ozman, affiliate links would be better...

So the sponsors can cancel the rogue affiliates? :1orglaugh :sleep

I only posted the pics as Juicy was acting like "what Fleshlight??!!! no waaay!!!"

It took me 30 seconds to find them LOL

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 12516943)
another one from the same page

http://clicktorrent.info/phpAdsNew/a... ntenttype=gif

refreshing that page gives me Fleshlight Sexbankroll and Xratedbucks so far


i need a ref code or something , what page are you refreshing?

xxxjay 05-30-2007 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 12516056)
I make the majority of my living producing DVDs. Why is it that every torrent site that has stolen my content and is giving it away, often 10,000+ times per title, sometimes up to 50,000 per title, you are there?

Why do you allow these people to make money off of you? Why do you support these thieves? Why do you pay them?

YOU are directly stealing money from MY pocket. Would it be OK if I smash one of you in the fucking face when I see you somewhere? Would it be OK if I stole or defrauded your company in any way? Of course not, so why are you stealing from me and the countless other directors who make a living doing this?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

You are stealing from me and my family. Fuck each and every person who works for your scandalous companies. You are all pieces of shit. In the end, you will get yours I'm sure of it. :2 cents:

I can agree with that. Those torrent sites kill our business. Way bigger deal than Zango. If they weren't turning a profit I'm sure a lot would shut down.

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 12516970)
So the sponsors can cancel the rogue affiliates? :1orglaugh :sleep

I only posted the pics as Juicy was acting like "what Fleshlight??!!! no waaay!!!"

It took me 30 seconds to find them LOL

ummm maybe you should read a bit more...

Alex explain to him how things are done...

You really did alot Oz , let the affiliate still make $$$$ as you sit here whine and when asked for info you dont provide? the irony...

OzMan 05-30-2007 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12516977)
ummm maybe you should read a bit more...

Alex explain to him how things are done...

You really did alot Oz , let the affiliate still make $$$$ as you sit here whine and when asked for info you dont provide? the irony...

I know exactly how things are done and aren't done, hence my apathy. I've done more than most on here to point out Sponsors/Affiliates on torrent sites but out of respect for your post count juicy here ya go. :winkwink:

I searched for fleshlight, refresh this link if you don't see a Fleshlight banner at first

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3522641/....TEKSTYLEZ.COM

here's the affiliate id

http://www.fleshlight.com/main/mov/k...zo1OjE,8,0,0,0

RawAlex 05-30-2007 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12516977)
ummm maybe you should read a bit more...

Alex explain to him how things are done...

You really did alot Oz , let the affiliate still make $$$$ as you sit here whine and when asked for info you dont provide? the irony...

Ozman, two steps: record the URL that you see the banner on. Then click the link, and post the resulting URL at fleshlight (or whatever sponsor it ends up at).

That way we can see where, and see which affiliate is sending the traffic.

RawAlex 05-30-2007 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 12516990)
I know exactly how things are done and aren't done, hence my apathy. I've done more than most on here to point out Sponsors/Affiliates on torrent sites but out of respect for your post count juicy here ya go. :winkwink:

I searched for fleshlight, refresh thios link if you don't see a Fleshlight banner at first

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3522641/....TEKSTYLEZ.COM

Which generates:

http://www.fleshlight.com/main/mov/k...zo1OjE,8,0,0,0

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516995)


Thank You

Oz was that hard???

Owner of Fleshlight was sent this thread already , he will get the thread and also see the aff.

See how easy that was?

czarina 05-30-2007 10:23 PM

one way to get back at them: signup for their newsletter or whatever it is they send in the mail with a yahoo, hotmail, aol and gmail account. Then report them all as junk mail.
If you do this enough times with different email addresses, they will eventually get blacklisted, and they'll lose tons of money.
Yes, it will take time to get it done, but if you are so pissed at them, may be you can use that energy for that...

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 10:24 PM

See now i can see that he is on

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3697791/..._Country_Girls
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3700631/...uck_Schoolgirl
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3685838/...07.........FFF
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3700711/..._Drunken_Girls
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3696014/...arbie_Cummings

in the rotating spot

OzMan 05-30-2007 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12517007)
Thank You

Oz was that hard???

Owner of Fleshlight was sent this thread already , he will get the thread and also see the aff.

See how easy that was?

You are right..it was easy. Shall I keep posting anytime I see a fleshlight link on a torrent?

Will he send me a fleshlight for bringing this rogue affiliate to his attention?

For a six pack in assorted textures I promise I won't post any more links. :thumbsup

RawAlex 05-30-2007 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 12517055)
You are right..it was easy. Shall I keep posting anytime I see a fleshlight link on a torrent?

Will he send me a fleshlight for bringing this rogue affiliate to his attention?

For a six pack in assorted textures I promise I won't post any more links. :thumbsup

Striving for "Bro" status? :):1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

uno 05-30-2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516813)
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Next.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

will76 05-30-2007 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12516556)
Lars is a human skid mark on the sheets of the adult industry



http://www.shomer-tec.com/images/sit...es/tbs_med.jpg

will76 05-30-2007 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 12516591)
Lars is a puppet, but if you point me to the true owner of AFF, I would knock his fucking head off.

I will pay $1000 for one of his teeth if someone wants to knock one out. :thumbsup :1orglaugh

As far as I know, he's a puppet. Maybe I'm wrong, but if I came face to face with the owners of any of these sites, I would not hesitate to go to jail for assault. Wouldn't be the first time.

Theft is theft and flat out, they are stealing from me. This is not different than if I caught them in my house robbing my shit.

he might be a pupet, but he is also an owner, and owns 10% of Various inc. At least thats what the articles say.

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 11:04 PM

It's companies like this that need to be targeted too
http://www.etology.com/buying-space.php

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12517133)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

RawAlex 05-30-2007 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12517137)
he might be a pupet, but he is also an owner, and owns 10% of Various inc. At least thats what the articles say.

10% owner of various, which is an (I have no idea) percentage of Medley Inc...

He must have power though, because he has been forced into so many interesting business arrangements. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

will76 05-30-2007 11:08 PM

Here is a suggestion, Why not fight back. Legally of course. If these companies want to skirt the edge of the law and fuck you, find ways to fuck them back.

I am sure they all have to have at least 1 weakness.

hershie 05-30-2007 11:12 PM

I sometimes wonder if Lars is keeping the majority owner Andrew in the dark about all the shady shit so he can maximize revenue and his share of profits in the short term and doesn't care when all of this blows up in the company's face and they get their just desserts, as he will be long gone. Maybe Andrew doesn't even know who they are associating with as Lars is the operations guy and would get rid of Lars for fucking up their rep....

will76 05-30-2007 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
You may want to take a trip back in time and see how the TGP industry got it's start.


As for these arguments that the dating sites are keeping torrent sites in business, that is total BS. We know from history that if you remove all income from hacking, warez, music trading and torrent sites that they'll still be there. Plenty of webmasters are more than willing to run these type of sites as a zero income hobby.

and zero income " hobbies" wont scratch the surface compared to the big for profit torrent sites. You could take all of the " hobby" torrents put them together and they wouldn't equal 1/2 of pirate bay. It is impossible to eliminate anything, but would be nice to put a large dent it in.

Also let the hobbies get harrassed with legal issues (depending upon where they are located) and see if they like coming out of pocket big bucks for something that doesnt make them money. :2 cents:


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