Who has established that the 'card' was used to pay for her room..?


I've not read where he said he used that card for his room. but if he did, they already had his number in the system. The physical card becomes a moot issue.


That's where the manipulations and mistakes begin..

Doesn't matter if it was lost or taken out of your pocket.. Once the credit card was "used" it's considered stolen. His was used so it's now considered stolen.

It does not matter what you believe or what you assume. The only thing that matters is what you can PROVE.

Even if she does lose the booble competition, she would have a very difficult time PROVING that it was because of this thread.

With these kinds of cases, you are looking at 20k minimum in legal fees for each side before the case ever saw the inside of a court room. Lisa (not saying that you would Lisa) could easily find a lawyer that would take something other than currency to cover his fee. It happens. One of my ex-models paid for her entire divorce and custody battle on her back and on her knees. Plenty of scumbag lawyers out there that would take this kind of payment.

NOTE: In the above mentioned divorce and custody case, there may also have been some cowgirl and reverse cowgirl payments although I have not received confirmation of this. I have sent her an email to confirm. I will keep you posted.

I always get charged for 10 gay porn movies :-(

Again.. hasn't been established that the card was used and not just his number pulled from the system... if he already used the card for his room...

Yeah, but you watch like 30, so why the :-(

Fuck that happens to me. I get my dad to pay.

wow

after reading the entire thread, I felt compelled to register and weigh in

the first half of this thread seems overrun with drama queens, conclusion-jumpers and liars... reason kicked in very late

I have a feeling many posters will end up deserving to grovel at Lisa's feet for forgiveness, but of course won't

I wonder if the room charges were to say Lensman, or Lars, or someone of that level if Mike Hawk would have done the same thing, or if he would have contacted them and worked it out offline. I love the bro factor in this thread, if your down with the bros it stays quiet, if you're not you are outed with no real concrete proof. The damage is already done to Lisa, if/when she is proven to not be a part having Caz say sorry will not fix the damages that are done.

Lisa's Wikipedia was updated saying she stole, people are bumping her old threads making comments, she's been called a ton of names in this thread. The thing with GFY is most people read over the drama thread once and that is what happened, they don't come back to see how it turned out. So to many people Lisa is a thief. And IF there is an apology thread I promise you it will not have nearly the amount of posts or views that this thread does.

GFY is a great tool when used properly, this thread is not the case. The proper thing Mike should have done was say it's possible that it was stolen by someone in this industry and I'll let Caz break it down if he feels he wants to out the person. Not implicate a dozen people, and then let people go the process of elimination on it.

I for one am sad this has happened, and am very sorry for Caz losing or having his wallet stolen. I hope it does all work out for him in the end. I also hope that Lisa is fully cleared just to see how much worse it looks for Mike, and it maybe will help people see they need facts before hitting submit on GFY.

If Lisa is indeed in need of an apology when this is all said and done, the fair thing to do would be to edit the first post in this thread instead of starting a new one and closing this one. That way it would get more views and a bit more attention... hopefully.

Won't help at all..
One dog barks and many of the neighborhood dogs start barking... No reason needed... just join in..

Too many are still trying to associate the 'possible' stolen wallet with the room charge...

Ok.. he lost his wallet.. was stolen or whatever... Room charges were made from his number (not necessarily his 'card') It happened to be on Lisa's bill..

How many people stayed at the hotel that night? How many other eronious charges were made on other people's cards/bills from that place..?


I really don't think the missing wallet is tied to the room charge.. it's just that the missing wallet is what got the room charge noticed...

Bark on little doggies...

A new sticky thread would do.....if needed

WTF

What kind of scum sucking fuckhead would do something so low when she hasn't even been formally charged or proven guilty?


Some of you assholes need to get a fucking life, and a clue.

This shit sucks, we had someone steal a camera from our Cabana.

Not to mention more threads being started with her real name in it.

It's pretty fucked.

This just makes no sense at all. It sounds more like the hotel fucked up, someone is out to get Lisa, a hotel employee made an error, or was scamming or something.

Attention All Go Fuckers

If ever you need a character reference this is the thread to keep on file.

Final outcome is irrelevant, the important statements have already been made.

Man that sucks ass

:pimp:pimp:pimp yo i have to make trip Austin not sure when , prob like late aug i let you know we hang and go hunt for Texas poon

man i am telling ya its sad that people in our own community would do shit like that. I mean you need to like keep close eyes on your stuff and so on..

crazy man crazyyyyyyyyyy

That's where my chips are...

If I'm a thief and steal a wallet with a cc. and $1000.. I'm gonna be using the cash to pay for a room... not a credit card that screams paper trail...

and that would have been my first thought when trying to figure out why the room charge was on someone else's room instead of crying thief on a public forum..

Yep. It was mine and was hidden pretty well too. The cabana was unmanned for a short time and my digital camera with a ton of great pics from the show was stolen. :321GFY

Live and learn! Needless to say it won't happen to me again. :winkwink:

See you all at Internext! :)

umm from the first post ..

Now how we know this, is the Hard rock called him to tell him all the details, her name, cause the amazing thing was she tried to use the card at the Hard rock to pay for her room......omg...can you be more retarded than this or what?

bingo, only the dumbest of the dumb would not use the $1000 cash and use the cards on another doorstep.

this thread delivers

Sorry about your loss...

You can only hope that whomever took your camera will post some of the pix from it here on GFY - then again, maybe they will use a fake nick and try and frame someone else... :upsidedow

ADG

I just received a fax from the hard rock that states Caza's card was used on my room at 8:42:43 am on 7/14/07 this was the time I was at the airport for my 10:20am departure with my husband and our daughter. My husbands parents dropped us off at the airport. They picked us up at the Hard Rock 7:45-8:00 am
We left through the side exit and did not even go through the casino or near the check-in lobby. This is clearly not me or my husband. Our friend left the night before at 6pm.

Talk to your lawyer. You have a nice defamation case, especially if you don't win the Booble contest. I've seen this thread has made its way around to other forums like the Stern forum and hurt your rep.

HAHA looks like your onto something there

Hes already on it. Thats how I have the exact time it was used now. Thanks for the help.

Lisa, have you talked to a lawyer yet?

If no, why not? What are you waiting for?

Edit: nm, I see you have.

Well, if what you say is true, l can only hope that the huge amount of negative publicity ends up working in your favour. This quite often happens with press smear campaigns.

Ycasa definitely is one of the nicest guy in the biz. I can't beleive somebody would be studip enough to do that.

Eric or another Mod needs to remove all instances of her last name in this and other threads, lots of people quoted it

great!

this community and industry would be better served by the liars and attention whores that got this bullshit going having their typing fingers amputated, but legal action may hafta suffice :)

Sad??

Its survival man....

If someone leaves a 1500.00 camera laying out, ill take it...

Same goes with a wallet....

Dumb fucks.

Thanks they can leave it. Its their ignorance because that is not my last name. Lisa is my real first name though :thumbsup You would think anyone in the industry would be more careful with names specially with the 2257 crap we have to go through.

You are talking about your "brothers" who have high moral values and who operate "top notch" companies. The "brothers" are all stand up guys, conduct all their business in a professional manner and have never lied, decieved or cheated in their lives and never make unfounded judgements on others. You can shake hands with a "brother" on any deal and have total confidence in their ability to deliver - it's a pleasure to watch true professionals.

What more can you ask for CD? The truth?? Blood?? :winkwink: :thumbsup

If this goes on any longer I am going to get my 1000 post and say: I been through hell and back and all I got was this shirt.. :helpme

Once again Mike Hawk comes off looking like a complete dumbass. Anyone remember him going after Tanker and Elisha with no proof? nuff said.

Shit like this should not be posted unless there is hard proof. Even if she did end up taking it and I am in no way saying she did, it should have stayed quite until either the cops had made an arrest or there was something in hand that could be posted.

The part of the title of this thread: "a new all time low in people" ... really took on a different meaning than what Mike intended I think.

Mike Hawk --- you mishandled this situation from the getgo. A wise move would be to at least try to clear up the mess a bit, but somehow I don't see that happening with you. I figured you for having a bit more integrity and professionalism prior to this.



And greywolf... I don't know you or at least I don't know who's behind the nick, but I assure you I'm not in the "bro" crowd. Not by a long shot.

I rather prefer it that way actually.

Parking my sig on page 11... read some of this drama... too bored though to read all of it!

Hey, is caza the dumbfuck married by any chance ? Cause that'll explain a lot as to why he charged a room somebody just checked out of on his own cc, and why he'd need to claim that his 1k in cash wallet was "stolen".

You know, stolen by hookers for services rendered. Also known as paying.

Lisa ROCKS !!!

Really sorry to read all this shit.

My Best CreamPie :thumbsup

Atom...what's up Brother !!!

This has to be a fake nick...... :2 cents:

sorry to hear that:(

Not much RAM! Hope life is treating you well. :thumbsup

I may have missed something here, I forced myself to stop reading at page 7, figured it would be the same old bullshit.

Lisa is a very sweet girl but if you go back and read Mike didnt out Lisa,Lisa outed Lisa. There is no mention of her name,except in guesses until she posts.

Classic title - just... awesome :) It may be GFY, but it is disappointing to see the level of crass stupidity and schoolgirl yakking, 10,000 page views and 11 pages of total crap arising out of an unfounded incident at a show. If this can be taken as the general level of mentality from show attendees I'll skip the "shows".

Never thought for a moment you were ever a "bro" :winkwink: It's also the last thing that could possibly be of any relevance or interest to me :1orglaugh