Match - set - point.

case over.


The Bro powers have spoken.

Sleazy knows Ycaza so he believes him. There is no way Ycaza could be wrong here because THE LARGE PLAYERS IN ONLINE ADULT know him too.

done deal. everyone can go home.





































why are you still reading this. you need more proof from Sleazy???/

Honestly, there are no legal grounds to bring a lawsuit against Ycaza. He never openly accused Lisa (in public) of anything. Remember that, technically, the identity of the person was still up for speculation when Lisa came forward and identified herself as the person in question. :2 cents:

Who wants my opinion on this?

That guy over there --------------------------------->

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So I am a thief because, I am a model? I been in the business for six years. Just because we have never talked I am wrong here? I have been to about a dozen conventions though out the years. Thank god I been to those or I would really be in trouble.

Lisa some people just dont get things or just ass kissers on here dont sweat it. Its funny when these type of threads arise you see the other side of people. Its your typical high school click type of shit.

Sleazy's just here giving your lawyer more proof that your reputation is being severely damaged by the accusations. You should thank him. :thumbsup

YO.. CAZ....
When are you gonna return to say that it does appear to have been a hotel error??

After all... according to Sleazy, you are one of the most respected men on Earth because you have lots of money and attend lots of conventions...
so I would think that one with that kind of respect would be man enough to at least set the record straight where all of this could be laid to rest..

Just a thought... :)

actually a list of people it could have been was given by some people

and even that the first name started with an L?


riddles arent well hidden from judges

Cut him a break, what if when he came back to Vegas on Thursday to look at the tape, somebody stole his wallet again and he has no way of getting home.
Didn't think of that did you. :Oh crap

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Now wait a minute!! This all should have been exposed earlier as it sheds a whole new light on things..

Sleazy has pointed out some very damaging evidence that really can't be disputed..

I'm sorry, Lisa, but this pretty much does seal your fate. How could I have been such a fool to believe you only to find this out?

Only a dozen conventions????? My God Woman why didn't you say so earlier!?!?!?

That is a sadistic way of looking at things:1orglaugh

FOr the record I am not gay and enjoy inserting my penis into vaginas

So did he ever go back to Vegas to see the videos?

But, but I was in the click in High School :)

I know where you are coming from. I am keeping my head up. I have nothing to hide.

Hmm.. now that I think about it.. especially after just learning that she has only attended 12 conventions.. she may have followed him out there, picked his pocket again, took his new card (old one canceled 3 days prior to the incident) where he couldn't return home with all of the incriminating evidence..

Damn she's good!

it's called "hiding in plain sight" :winkwink:

Something is definitely wrong with the mindset some have in this business. Mike Hawk started this, tried to affect Lisa's success in the booble contest, and in fact attempted to torpedo her chances by prematurely using unproven and unfounded accusations publicly.

The usual way people handle a situation like this is to call the cops and have them investigate what happened. and once all the facts are in they either settle up and move on or THEN they report their findings publicly.

Not here though, not in our lovely quaint little "community". At the first sign of percieved drama it's "run to the boards" time and "All bets are off, trash first and ask questions later. Let's out the bitch now while the iron is hot, HELL let's play a guessing game for a few hours first and cast a shadow of doubt on the character of all twelve girls in the contest, think of the pageviews!"

Pathetic, transparent and shameful.

Ycaza comes off as more reasonable and level-headed than Mike does in this thread, granted, but as it stands BOTH of them really need to man up and get back here and deal with this mess. They should either make it right publicly with Lisa, set the record straight once and for all and then talk about who REALLY did it... OR share the final proof that shows without a doubt she was the one.

That's pretty much what professional mature people would do. "He's a bro and the $10 mill a year club smiles on him" doesn't mean shit to me if all he's doing is trashing the wrong individual.


So many clues need handing out here I honestly don't know where to start.

Lisa has handled this a LOT better than I would have, I'll give that to her.

I will again say IMO, this is NOTHING BUT A CLERK ISSUE!!!

wow..this is still going. I'll have to get the cliffnotes somewhere, wtf has time to read 18 pages of threads :helpme

good fucking god, you truly are a fucking moron... oh wait 'idiot'

Ok the 12 webmaster conventions was a guess. However I have been to quite a few over the years. :1orglaugh

as to the rooom issue, the stolen wallet is another thing entirely

Was it definitely said it was stolen? I thought he didn't know if he lost it or not. I still haven't even seen any proof that whomever had the wallet made the "payment" on Lisa's account - again that could easily be a clerical issue.

This thread should NEVER have been started until ALL the facts were in - period.

It needs to keep going on til Caz presents his findings..

Either undisputable proof of guilt, or an admission that it was a hotel error..

The thread doesn't need to just vanish as so many do.. It needs official closure.

Call me stubborn, but this isn't just a typical gfy thread. It was started with an agenda, with no concern for what long term effects it could have.. followed by the typical cattle mentality, then just left hanging for all to feast over..
Hmm.. maybe that much of it is typical..

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I already admitted that it was me who stole the car.

anyone seen Mike Hawk recently?

On the back of a jetski with Drinkinhard.


Bareback

I would like to think that he realized he messed up big time, but in that he hasn't stated so, probably not the case...

Soo.. someone may have told him to chill and let the threat just vanish..

Birds of a feather flock together.

I didnt read a word in this thread yet. Please someone sum it up for me. Thanks.

MikeHawk apparently thought he needed to employ the smear method in order for his choice of Booble contestants to win...

Pretty much it in a nutshell...

So the thread title is false?

Yep.

Gary

He admitted it and said sorry or just like Mark he dissapeared without a word?

Disappeared without a word.

Gary

whats the chance of this hitting 1000 posts ????????????

20k page views by tonight.... amazing thread

100% if another "mini drama" breaks out, or Ycaza or MikeHawk come back in to post.

the power of a mini is just amazing

Ok so pointing the finger at the person is not the same as just saying their name?????

Mike started it off with 12 possible candidates. Some of those girls were not even in Vegas, the field was narrowed down. As mike played the guessing game with everyone he gave clues like " she is on his myspace page" which narrowed down to one. Ycaza also admitted to running his mouth to several people at the show, lisa seeing that Mike was pointing to her in this thread she replied to defend herself.

She didn't "out" herself, if you want to get technical Mike "pointed" her out, same difference as saying her name. Which would have been more grown up then playing the " guessing game".

maybe he is still in Vegas because he lost his wallet again, with his ticket home in it and he is waiting for someone to wire him money so he can get back ???? :1orglaugh

This Thread is BRO-tarded!!!
 

It's been nearly three full days since you made your last post. You indicated you were going to Vegas on Thursday to get answers and clear everything up.

It's now Saturday night...and no report back as of yet.

Your silence and that of the people that originally launched the attacks directed at Lisa is deplorable. It's time to put yourselves in her place.

Either lay out your proof or apologize already. Your credibility and the credibility of your bro's is on the line.

To remain silent is (to coin a new word), bro-tarded...

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Just going to say that anyone that has worked with Lisa or knows her as a friend would KNOW FOR A FACT that she did not steal the wallet. From what I know of her and the word that comes from industry peers she is the kind of person that would turn one in with the cash, imo. She has handled herself very professionally in this crazy biz from day 1 and has earned a great rep for years of being a stand up business person. Never heard one bad thing about her until this which it seems apparent is an unfortunate situation but based on suspicion and not fact. I guess because she has avoided typical model drama for all these years meant that she had to pay some dues to the god's of porn, or the bro club or whatever.

This is an unfortunate mix-up involving all good folks that I hope turns around for the positive for all concerned.

It should have been obvious what happened as soon as she showed him her bill..

It clearly shows the same balance, but the credit toward the full balance reflects her card number.. with an amount due of 0.

She didn't use his card to pay for her room... it was a foul-up at the hotel..

Don't know why he wouldn't just see it was the hotel's fault and say so on here then instead of just letting it hang like he has...

Ycaza seems like a good guy, and his company seems solid, so I am puzzled about this as well.

I thought Stand-Up, Top Notch bro's, stood for more than buying drinks at shows...

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