Are you so scared of the ragheads that you're willing to give up your right to a jury trial? You're willing to give the Govt. the power to snatch you up off the street and hold you forever without trial or even telling anyone where you are, and you'll willingly allow the govt. to tap your phones, monitor what you read and search your house without a warrant or a reason?

Disappointing. I thought you were a REAL man.

It took 10 years between both WTC attacks ....

and then some people spend so much time under their bed that common sense isn't even a distant memory for them anyome.
Diglet, if I ever go to trial, I'll have a Jury. I want my government to kill foriegn terrorists, not give them a trial.
The government will not snatch me off the street and hold me forever without trial nor have they done this to any other American citizen.
And yes, diglet, I'm completely ok with the governmnet listening in on calls made between suspected terrorists outside of our country. Especially when those calls are made into or out of our country.

See Diglet, I see things from the perspective of a citizen of the US watching the government do what I want it to do (however half assed they go about it). You, however, see things from the perspective of a terrorist. why is that?

Define terrorist?

where you're going wrong Ronnie, is thinking it won't happen to you. Government NEVER voluntarily gives back power once it's seized it, and they ALWAYS abuse it. Read your history. They're already using provisions of the Patriot Act to go after non-terrorist related crime. You think pornographers are immune to this somehow?

Since when did all these macho John Wayne conservatives turn into such bedwetting pro-big government pussies?

Soldiers DIED to give you these freedoms, and you want to give them all back just because you're scared of Arabs?

What was it...9 years between the first WTC attack and the second?

Man give it some time, it will happen again.

so wtc is the only target in the usa?

come on people think here please. They would want to attack you every day if the could. they dont think hmm, its been 8 years, lets wait another 2, just for the fun of it.

Who wants to try to fly all the way to US with an Arabic surname to blow some shit up for Allah when you can just hop on a bus to Israel?

sorry diglet. I live in the real world, not the imaginary one.
The government has not taken away ANY of MY rights. stop seeing yourself as the terrorist and you won't feel threatened.

50 speculators...... :)

because they ran out of idiots dumb enough to fly a plane into a building.

the people behind tghe 9/11 attacks are too busy attacking iraq right now to be concerned with attacks in the united states...

heh? where is your evidence for this. I didnt know you had a pass into the pentagon and knew all their secrets :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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There is a large number of reasons they haven't attacked the US since 9/11.

- Such attacks take a lot of effort and time.
- They are busy in Iraq
- They have been disrupted because we invaded their home base there
- They are unable to get someone in the US to do it because there are no (or too few) extremeist Muslims in the US
- They are unable to get into the US.

One of things that gives me thought these days is how many Muslims we have in the US and how many "related problems" we have here. We don't see them protesting US poilcy, and they surely aren't commiting terrorist attacks against the US. This is because they live in the US and see who we are and that we don't hate anyone.

agree with many of your points rochard except maybe that we have disrupted them.(efficiently and successfully)

It is argued that al queda are now the same if not stronger since 9/11, due to a mass increase in support.
Lots of terror experts have said that.

but anyway, nice points.


Your last point however, of course they dont see anything, they are living in the u.s. They aren't the same muslims who have had their country destroyed in iraq by us. - food for thought

Fighting "terror" with terror simply doesn't work.

Rochard, 9/11 didn't have anything to do with Iraq so relating the two in your point is a fallacy.

true, but I cant see many other viable options.
I do see options but none which the US is ever going to take and rightly so if they want to stay the world power

somehow I think the 2 are very much related. 9/11 helped fuel iraq without a doubt.

The towers where demolished, no plane could bring them down, they were built with airplanes crashing into them in mind.
9/11 was an inside job by our government to get us to invade Afghanistan for natural gas and Iraq for oil, plus all the money involved in wars.

Bush requests more money for Iraq very often isnt it up to 150 Billion by now, that only benefits the federal reserve and the Rockefellers, it has nothing to do with fighting terrorist, Bush family is friends with the Bin Ladens, why do you think they never found him.

This war just like Vietnam is just a money making excuse for the elite of this country.

Well thats my opinion, if you dont like it, not my problem

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